Re: WHO HERE ARE THE ALLAH/QUR-AN ONLY PEOPLE...?
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Hi Heri,Arnold,
like arnold said i am sure there are a few of us here who are thinking like you are-and welcome to you a like minded brother, seeking the truth .
Thanks for the invitation.
Gods Blessings.
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Salam all,
For believers and challenger (Muhajirin) who reject sunna, hadith, ritual prayer please join in this groups to discuss our strategies
http//groups.yahoo.com/group/TheGreatChallenges
Let set some measure of our struggle
Peace,
HeriSalam heri,
Ada lumayan banyak orang Indonesia di forum ini , yang sering muncul antara lain saya, adley, jankren. Kita punya tempat ngobrol regional di bagian Asia/Middle East, dan kita sebenarnya juga punya group di google. Mampir ke sana ya ...
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Salaam Heri,
Mungkin kalau khusus bahas buat kawasan Indo bisa mampir ke Allah-Semata, di situ tempat kumpul, ngobrol, diskusi, dan debat sopan orang2 kayak kita. Gak bisa dibilang satu pemahaman total tentunya, tapi yang pasti gak percaya ama sunnah bikinan Bukhari & co. ;D
=adley/ele=
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Salam all,
Thanks for the warm welcome and I am happy that indeed there are Indonesian here. Apa khabar semua ? nanti saya gabung sama milis anda.
For Arlnold, basically the ritual prayers or 5 times prayer facing ka'baa is the one that mislead people. I pray to God also such as utering, "please God ha
ve a mercy on me" when I feel depressed etc. and remembering HIM as I am a wake.What concern me regarding this kind of forum is typically I want some feed back for us who spread the guidance to the real society, at least to family and our neighbour. We can not just be proud to be different like others but we need to measure how sucess are we in this challenge ? how many person you had been changed. It is all about giving life and help others into God direction.
AND I will bring you all to a view (persfective) that we need to DEAL with this and have sense of urgency. We need to see this as a PROJECT. every project have a goal (objective) and we need to finish the target in timely manner. We need to derives problem, what causing it ?, why are people rejecting the guidance?. What is the risk and how we minimalize it. We are, I believe, more knowledgable rather than Muhammad in term of management and technology. We need to use multimedia to make them easy to understand. We need resources and money. The man is already dead (wafat) and it is time for us to go forward to continue his mission. This I believe the teach of the Quran. The message had delivered, what can we do ?
Peace,
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Salaamun to ALL
With so many names and posts, I cannot keep up with which members are Allah/Qur-an Only people, that is, those individuals who utter no Allahu Akbar, believe in no ritual prayer nor support the concept in any way, believe in no tithing, no pilgrimage, no five pillars, reject the current shahada being used and, have abandoned the hadiths as a source of spiritual guidance, growth and development and for the establishing of Islamic jurisprudence. Thank you for your cooperation.
I'll be the first to put my name on this list. If I've made any errors as to where people stand, please let me know, thanks. Remember, this is NOT to divide people, but so I am clear on who maintains what position.
Thus far, some good debate has resulted from this and, as a member said recently, as the Allah and Qur-an only and alone movement grows, there will be division anyway...I think he is right.
In addition, Allah and Qur-an only and alone is the reality anyway, but is written as---obey Allah and obey the Messenger. When we obey the Messenger, what are we in fact obeying? exactly! we are obeying the MESSAGE--Al-Qur-an.
The definitely Allah and Qur-an only and alone people
- ZENJE
- DHULQARNAIN
- DANISH/MAZHER
- ANWAR AZIM/YFN123
- TONY
- SYMTACS
- MZ357
- WAKAS
- ZULF
- SHAREEZ
- AYMAN
- HAFEEZ KAZI
- SARA, LIGHT UPON LIGHT
- IDRIS
- THA PHENOM
- SAVAGE-CARROT
- 2PACS-NOTTS
- DHANTI
Those definitely not Allah and Qur-an only and alone persons
- FRANK
- VENCENCIA
- AFDHERE
- ASDFGK
- GENTILE
- tajmaha
- RIZWAN
- ESIMSEK100
Those still deciding/I'm not certain of
- MORNINGDEW
- MARIE
- ELENA
- ASH SHURRA
- MAJIDAH
- MH
- NABI
That is why I had suggested that every person includes some of his key beliefs in his signature....But dumb people dont understand. They ask me why should they be indentified when anyone can know after discussing.
VE
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Peace,
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That is why I had suggested that every person includes some of his key beliefs in his signature....But dumb people dont understand. They ask me why should they be indentified when anyone can know after discussing.VE
You asked, we voted NO............Because we differ on this we're dumb? Stop behaving like a little kid, by using offending language, calling people names.
Peace
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Salaam VirtualEye,
That is why I had suggested that every person includes some of his key beliefs in his signature....But dumb people dont understand. They ask me why should they be indentified when anyone can know after discussing.
Look, not every person is as smart as you. But, people have their own right what to choose, even though that choice may be considered a dumb choice. Nevertheless, the quran teaches us not to call other people bad names and the quran definitely teaches patience.
So, please VirtualEye, be patient with those who you considered to be the dumb ones. Including me that is... ;D
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Peace
That is why I had suggested that every person includes some of his key beliefs in his signature
Perhaps you should be the first to start, be an example to others?
Joe
When it beomces the rule by admin, then I will be the first to mention my beliefs.
If nobody mentions his beliefs then why should I be cursed from the start that I am sunni?VE
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LOL, the last two comments put a smile on my face
thank you both
Cheers
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Peace
People will curse you, and others will not. People mention their beliefs all the time in different areas when they give an interpretation which you have somethimes condemned yourself. So why hold back when you are already doing to others what you feel may be done unto you?
Joe
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Peace
People will curse you, and others will not. People mention their beliefs all the time in different areas when they give an interpretation which you have somethimes condemned yourself. So why hold back when you are already doing to others what you feel may be done unto you?
Joe
Simple rule
Everyone writes ihis beliefs in signature,
So do I.Nobody mentions,
I dont have any problem.Understood? or got lost?
VE
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Peace
You seem to have misunderstood me from the very beginning VE. I suggested that you start things off since the suggestion was yours, that you may be an example to others.
I'm not trying to prove that you are wrong in anything. I only suggested you do something to which you insist on arguing me with.
Joe
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Peace
You seem to have misunderstood me from the very beginning VE. I suggested that you start things off since the suggestion was yours, that you may be an example to others.
I'm not trying to prove that you are wrong in anything. I only suggested you do something to which you insist on arguing me with.
Joe
I think you did not understand my point still.
If other people do not simultaniously start their detailed signature, then why do I apply this rule just to me? so that other identify my beliefs from the start but I keep fummbleing about thier beliefs and keep asking them? or remain misunderstood???
I dont want one sided identification. Simple is that.
I want two sided identificaions, at least in most cases.VirtualEye.
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Peace
I think you did not understand my point still.
I will point out to you as you make your points how you are confusing things.
If other people do not simultaniously start their detailed signature, then why do I apply this rule just to me?
I did not say this rule applies to you or anyone else. I suggested that you be the first to set an example.
so that other identify my beliefs from the start but I keep fummbleing about thier beliefs and keep asking them?
A signature will not detail one's beliefs if you ask me. You cannot determine how someone will look at this or that scenerio by a general signature. Again, as I SUGGESTED, perhaps you should start things off so that other people may follow suite.
or remain misunderstood???
You're allowed to state your opinion on different things here. Not all people will get you at first, or ever.
I dont want one sided identification. Simple is that.
You're such a matyr for your cause. ;D
I want two sided identificaions, at least in most cases.
I'd suggest you not let your addictions get the best of you.
Joe
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What the big deal? I have detailed signature which clearly define my belief. I am never scare to say what is right according to my understanding of Qur'an and deen.
This signature post exchange going on from sometime now.
Signature not like this you have. Because almost all muslims have the same beliefs here.
I had suggested the format of signature in my other post.
Its format might be suggested as
I am a Muslim.
I believe in One God, Allah.
Quran is the divine word of Allah.
I am QuranOnly/Sunni/RashadKhalifa...... Believer
I believe Prophet Muhammad (SAW) to be the last prophet and messenger.The above is just a suggestion which more clearly distinguishes the non-believers, believers in One god but not muslims, QuranOnly, Ahmedis, Sunnis etc.
VE
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Peace
if I'd have to explain my 'belief' in a signature it would be a litle boring to read, I'm afraid, and a bit long...brought up as Catholic...leaving it...not converting to any other religion...
I prefer the Idolfree's words - There are only two "religions" in the world, righteousness and unrighteousness, anything else is a sect.
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Peace ve and all. I will be your pioneer,....check out my new signature...