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    unknownuser
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    i never read any hadith that forbid us from believing in evolution. wher in the world they come up with these things? confused

    no it's in al-quran...

    The example of Jesus, as far as GOD is concerned, is the same as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, "Be," and he was.

    The quran frequently refers us as the "children of Adam"

    O children of Adam, we have provided you with garments to cover your bodies, as well as for luxury. But the best garment is the garment of righteousness?.

    O children of Adam, do not let the devil dupe you as he did when he caused the eviction of your parents from Paradise, and the removal of their garments to expose their bodies. He and his tribe see you, while you do not see them?.

    O children of Adam, when messengers come to you from among you, and recite My revelations to you, those who take heed and lead a righteous life, will have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

    Did I not covenant with you, O Children of Adam, that you shall not worship the devil? That he is your most ardent enemy?

    I read that the evolution theory is applicable to certain creatures, according to RK's foot notes, he base his conclusion on 2919-20 but I can't say I agree with him on that.

    http//www.harunyahya.com/m_articles.php
    scroll down to the "Refutation of Darwinism" section

    i never read a hadith that banned music. where in the world they come up with these things? confused

    I've only come across one hadith my self that prohibited music. My granddad was told by his imam that any one who listons to music will have hot, melted metal in thier ears in the hereafter. I also heard that all four madhabs (Hanafi-based on work of Abu Hanifa, Maliki-founded by Malik, Shafi'i-founded by Shafi'i, a student of Malik and Hanbali-founded by Ahmad bin Hanbal, a student of Shafi'i) prohibited music.

    peace,
    sugar

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      arnoldyasin
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      Peace,

      There is a big difference between Intelligent Design and Creationism of harun yahya. Evolution is based on blind chance, Intelligent design is based on small progress through guidance by an Intelligence(God). Harun Yahya claims are ignorant as his organisation ignores to may proves for slight adaptation. That this adpation is guided by Intellegence is not to be doubted at all. Harun yahya professes creation out of nothing, but that is based on Christian creationism theology and based on the Quran which tells us that He created us out of succesors and slight adaptation. I have studied Biochemistry for years and harun's claims are crap on this. The Quran does promote Intelligent Design, read this article

      http//rationalreality.50webs.com/evol.htm

      And this one

      http//www.tolueislam.com/Bazm/misc/IA_Evolution.htm

      Peace

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        unknownuser
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        To be honest i've never really paid much attention to the intelligent design vs evolution argument, it is an immensely boring, complex subject and i doubt it will help me progress much.

        a Christian guy i knew brought haruns articles to my attention since he started to believe in the evolution theory and believed the intelligent design argument is "garbage" coz he claims that there's much more scientific evidence to prove evolution. 'science' changes all the time so i don't waste much time studying it. )

        Haruns articles are just copied and pasted stuff, none of it is his own work, he aint even smart, Edip Yuksel wrote a highly controversial article about Harun and Harun sued him in a court in Turkey. >D
        http//19.org/index.php?id=14,335,0,0,1,0

        Everyone I know seems to love harun yahya, his documentaries are always shown on the islam channel.

        peace,
        sugar

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          Peace,

          Haruns articles are just copied and pasted stuff, none of it is his own work, he aint even smart, Edip Yuksel wrote a highly controversial article about Harun and Harun sued him in a court in Turkey.
          http//19.org/index.php?id=14,335,0,0,1,0

          If you knew this, why did you link to harun yahya's article? harun yahya has some good things on the site, but he himself is a fraud. Not all of the articles and books are frauds, a couple of years ago i had contact with the organisation to translate books for them and to be their contact in Holland. But to come on the intelligent Design issue, it has more scientific value then evolution, i studied it.

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            unknownuser
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            If you knew this, why did you link to harun yahya's article?

            Well it's copied and pasted stuff so i reckon it's fairly safe to give the link. ;D If it was done by the freak him self I don't think that I would have given the link.

            He is a popular guy so i thought it would be no big deal ;D

            Besides ignorance is bliss ignore

            peace,
            sugar

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              arnoldyasin
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              truly 17...................you're like my girlfriend..................

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                unknownuser
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                really?

                i always assumed your girl friend would be dead smart like you

                peace,
                sugar

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                  arnoldyasin
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                  She is....... she truly is......

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                    unknownuser
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                    lol if she's dead smart like you then she can't be anything like me

                    peace,
                    sugar

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                      arnoldyasin
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                      she would say she is smarter......

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                        unknownuser
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                        peace arnoldyasin

                        As brothers said before u should truly make a movie of ur life )
                        ur story reminded me of another one, cat stevens' and his journey from
                        the pop world, underground life and weed to islam.
                        I would say that u, brothers, r the best "ayat" of the straight path.
                        Cat Stevens named himself Yusuf Islam, here his website
                        http//www.yusufislam.org.uk

                        salam

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                          phoenix1
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                          but the story hasn't ended yet, has it?
                          he hasn't gotten married again and hasn't written a book about his life and become old. He needs to do all that before a movie is made.

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                            arnoldyasin
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                            rotfl phoenix thanx for that great comment
                            And salam, thank you, i could write a book, but it would be to long......and like phoenix said, i'm not done yet ;D

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                              phoenix1
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                              peace arnold,

                              you're welcome

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                                peace arnold
                                it looks to me that in life we'll never be done
                                when u right the book, i'll right the scenario, and then we can make a movie ;D ;D
                                u need to find a director bro
                                salam

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                                  stoked_youth
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                                  Salaam,

                                  What a great story Arnold, you've been trough pretty much everything.
                                  I'm sure most people've already said this, but I will say it again you should write a book bravo

                                  Peace and Kia Ora

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                                    JahsWolf
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                                    Arnold

                                    Thank you for sharing you life story. Pretty amazing how merciful God has been to you. God has more mercy than most give Him credit for.

                                    I wish you well with your new woman, sounds like you have quite the hurdle to cross with her family, but with God nothing is impossible.

                                    God speed Arnold

                                    Dow

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                                      SwedenMajidah
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                                      Salam,

                                      Well there must be some obstacles in life or else we get bored too fast.

                                      Fight for our love, YEAH come on yay

                                      Peace Sis Maria

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                                        arnoldyasin
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                                        for sis maria...

                                        You want to live without troubles? Do you expect your mirror to shine without rubbing?

                                        Rumi

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                                          matinbhagat
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                                          Salam brother arnold,

                                          WHat is your view on rumi?i think he was quite wise and knowledgable.

                                          Regards,
                                          Jai

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