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The human eye and the garbage "evolutionists" clai

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    unknownuser
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    Hi Truth,
    The theory itself is formulated by Atheists, it just give them an alternative to creation. I have asked Professors of Biology who could not give me a clue about it but just saying that its a Theory, and believe me some say its a bad theory and other say they should exclude it from the textbooks.
    Peace

    Charles Darwin's views on religion have been the subject of much interest. His work was pivotal in the development of evolution theory which some argue helps show that God is unnecessary, while others feel that attacking Darwin and restricting teaching of evolution helps to evangelise their faith.

    Charles Darwin had a Non-conformist background, but attended a Church of England school. He studied Anglican theology with the aim of becoming a clergyman, before joining the Voyage of the Beagle. On return, he developed his theory of natural selection in full awareness that it conflicted with the teleological argument. Darwin deliberated about the Christian meaning of mortality and came to think that the religious instinct had evolved with society. With the death of his daughter Annie, Darwin lost all faith in a beneficent God and saw Christianity as futile. He continued to give support to the local church and help with parish work, but on Sundays would go for a walk while his family attended church.

    In his later life, Darwin was frequently asked about his religious views. He went as far as saying that he did "not believe in the Bible as a divine revelation", but was always insistent that he was agnostic and had "never been an Atheist".

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      bmbmm
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      how do you know that something wouldn't change enough overtime that we would call it by a different name?
      For example if an orange has a genetic mutation that makes its skin blue, wouldn't it become a 'blue' instead of an 'orange'?

      Ya we can if the mutation is passed into the following generations! In this case it will not.

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        Andya_Primanda
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        Ya we can if the mutation is passed into the following generations! In this case it will not.

        I wonder. Why do you think mutations are not passed to the next generation? It's particularly strange for you as a molecular biologist to say this.

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          sawtooth
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          Many mutations ARE, single kidney, fused fingers (lobster hands), some dwarf syndromes....

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            bmbmm
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            I wonder. Why do you think mutations are not passed to the next generation? It's particularly strange for you as a molecular biologist to say this.

            lol lol lol

            Say I acquire a mutation in the canabinoid receptors gene due to some enviromental impact (Gods know what roll ) that I do not get high when a puff weed. How is that gona be passed to my next generation roll

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              bmbmm
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              Many mutations ARE, single kidney, fused fingers (lobster hands), some dwarf syndromes....

              Any beneficial mutations?

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                sawtooth
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                Well, the "sleeping metabolism" gene USED to be benneficial, the gene for "cickle cell anemia" wards off malaris and is therefore VERY benneficial in certain geographic areas. Give some time to look at this some more and I will be back with more for ya

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                  Say I acquire a mutation in the canabinoid receptors gene due to some enviromental impact (Gods know what Rolling Eyes ) that I do not get high when a puff weed. How is that gona be passed to my next generation Rolling Eyes

                  peace bmbmm,

                  i dont understand this. How can genes not be passed down to the next generation. If your DNA is altered in some way, your offspring (which has your DNA) would also have that acquire that alteration. wouldn't it? If i lift weights and build huge muscles, my children won't have that quality, but if i was born with a mutation they would.
                  I've only taken 9th grade biology and i don't remember much of it, so i might be wrong.
                  And are there other microbioligsts who don't find any evidence of evolution?

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                    neo
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                    http//www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=2476

                    Peace all,
                    At the above site you'll find a comprehensive refute to the absolutely garbage claims and horrendous lies of the evolutionists who say that the eye is a poor design and because of this structure must have evolved by chance instead of an intelligent source who calculated and adjusted everything accordingly. What a disgrace to humanity these "evolutionists" have become! These people will never earn any respect from me and if anyone here joinds them id say goodbye to them too. These claims are absolutely incomapatible with the Quran. GOD Bless!

                    Lol.

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                      By the way, the first person to propose that humans are primates was the great Carolus Linnaeus. Linnaeus lived some time before Darwin, that is, before people thought of the idea of evolution.)

                      http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Khaldun

                      Shanavas, Creation or Evolution an Islamic Perspective Pg 128

                      Ibn Khaldun The muqaddimah trans. by Franz Rosenthal, Vol. 1, Pg 195

                      One should then look at the world of creation. It started out from minerals and progressed, in an ingenious gradual manner to plants and animals. The last stage of minerals is connected with the first stage of plants, such as herbs, and seedless plants. The last stage of plants such as palms and vines is connected with the first stage of animals, such as snails and shellfish which have only the power of touch. The word "connection" with regard to these created things means that the last stage of each group is fully prepared to become the first stage of the next group. The animal world widens, its species become numerous, and in a gradual process of creation, it finally leasds to man whi is able to think and reflect. The higher stage of man is reached from the world of monkeys, in which both sagascity ad perception are found, but which has not reached the stage of actual reflection and thinking. At this point we come to the first stage of man (after the world of monkeys). This is as far as our (physical) observations extends.

                      Al- Biruni, Kitab al-jamahjir fi ma'rifat al-jawahir, (arabic) Hyderbad Dairratu 'L Ma' arif'l Osmania, 1934, p. 80.

                      "Man reached his maximum degree of perfection compared to other animals below him, He ascended to the present state from other kinds of beings such as dog-like, bear-like, ape-like, etc. Then finally became man."

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