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rotfl phoenix thanx for that great comment
And salam, thank you, i could write a book, but it would be to long......and like phoenix said, i'm not done yet ;D -
peace arnold
it looks to me that in life we'll never be done
when u right the book, i'll right the scenario, and then we can make a movie ;D ;D
u need to find a director bro
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Salaam,
What a great story Arnold, you've been trough pretty much everything.
I'm sure most people've already said this, but I will say it again you should write a book bravoPeace and Kia Ora
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Arnold
Thank you for sharing you life story. Pretty amazing how merciful God has been to you. God has more mercy than most give Him credit for.
I wish you well with your new woman, sounds like you have quite the hurdle to cross with her family, but with God nothing is impossible.
God speed Arnold
Dow
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Salam,
Well there must be some obstacles in life or else we get bored too fast.
Fight for our love, YEAH come on yay
Peace Sis Maria
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for sis maria...
You want to live without troubles? Do you expect your mirror to shine without rubbing?
Rumi
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Salam brother arnold,
WHat is your view on rumi?i think he was quite wise and knowledgable.
Regards,
Jai -
Peace,
Wisdom is wisdom, it doesn't matter who says it, only what is said matters. Rumi was ahead of his time....
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but the story hasn't ended yet, has it?
he hasn't gotten married again and hasn't written a book about his life and become old. He needs to do all that before a movie is made.he should do some of it now....
...then do the rest later D
peace,
sugar -
hypno
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Peace Arnold,
You want to live without troubles? Do you expect your mirror to shine without rubbing?
Rumi
hehe exactly bravo
Maria
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;D i knew you would like that one...
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hypno
LoOoL
If it's really long then maybe you can turn it into a TV serious.
BTW i did not like that quote. What have we done to deserve to have dirt/dust on our mirror in the first place? Since renouncing RK's "Why are we here" theory i've been feeling like this elektro
peace,
sugar -
hypno
LoOoL
If it's really long then maybe you can turn it into a TV serious.
BTW i did not like that quote. What have we done to deserve to have dirt/dust on our mirror in the first place? Since renouncing RK's "Why are we here" theory i've been feeling like this elektro
peace,
sugarWe are here to learn salt, life is not a punishment but a school. This world is made for you, so start exploring it. And the rubbing refers to that somethings you can only learn after some hard times, but when you got through them, you wouldn't want to exchange a second as you will see that you got a higher level of understanding. There is no dust on the mirror except what we put on it our selves.
Peace
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We are here to learn salt, life is not a punishment but a school.
lol first time i've heard that, i read somewhere we were suppose to be "God's Cops ".... (not had time to research on this subject yet- been too busy with too many other subjects).
This world is made for you, so start exploring it.
This world is a sh*t hole, what is there to explore?
Scientific research may be some benefit for humanity but research takes too long, and the research it self is flawed in too many ways, a few years ago some boffins from Cambridge university were spending a long time doing research on the subject "Does hot water scold your hand", my 2 year old sister can tell you it does ). Any way too many scientists these days just want mess with nature and alter God's creations. They are doing more harm then good.
There is no dust on the mirror except what we put on it our selves.
really? then what has a young child that is sexually abused by a pedophile done so bad to deserve that?
We are here to learn salt, life is not a punishment but a school
learn what?
If life is like a 'school' then it's even more meaningless then I thought. I learnt nothing at school, i only turned up so my parents will not have to pay for the fine if i skipped school, i hated a lot of my teachers, a lot of the teachers did not want to teach, a lot of them gave work that was not on the curriculum, I had 3 different head teachers while I was at that school and they were all crap, the school rules were stupid, the rules about jewellery and having your own jacket on top of your uniform got me into trouble every lesson, my exam results won?t as good as what I was predicted to have, my school was put in "special measures" by the government coz it was so bad, the disciplinary measures were ridiculous you could probably get into more trouble not doing your homework then you can bullying someone and making their life miserable, a boy in my class was bullied for all the time he spent there, he even once tried to commit suicide, his bullies did not get in much trouble for it, at most they were excluded for a few days after four and a half years of making that boy suffer........... i can rant all day about school?. but life is not much better then that...
And if you have a "bad teacher" (i.e. a parent or a religious scholar) your gonna "fail the test" and your gonna suffer the consequences even though it is not your fault... And what does someone who died as a baby learn? What was the point of their existence?
....."Our Lord, You did not create all this in vain".....
According to my limited vision, the plan is strange, unjust, imperfect and pointless.
RK's "Why are we here" theory was an OK theory (even if it did make God sound like he had a big ego). It's a shame why you can't even get a good answer to why we are even in the Quran. This "serving God" idea is certainly not as 'straight forward' as it?s cracked out to be, when i say 'straight forward' i don't mean 'easy'- i have never expected it to be easy, I won?t say what I mean by not straight forward coz it?s a long, complex, hard to explain subject. I am a pessimistic person, I read in a psychology book that pessimistic people have a more realistic idea of the world then an optimistic person P.
No one on earth can give a 'good' explanation to why we were created ) The "everything happens for a reason" theory is just blind belief.
peace,
sugar -
We are here to learn salt, life is not a punishment but a school.
lol first time i've heard that, i read somewhere we were suppose to be "God's Cops ".... (not had time to research on this subject yet- been too busy with too many other subjects).
This world is made for you, so start exploring it.
This world is a sh*t hole, what is there to explore?
There is more on this earth then just humans and their business, learn to see kid, learn to see that....
Scientific research may be some benefit for humanity but research takes too long, and the research it self is flawed in too many ways, a few years ago some boffins from Cambridge university were spending a long time doing research on the subject "Does hot water scold your hand", my 2 year old sister can tell you it does ). Any way too many scientists these days just want mess with nature and alter God's creations. They are doing more harm then good.
This is a personal observation which i hardly disagree with. You only see little bits of what certain people do, so you can only judge that.
There is no dust on the mirror except what we put on it our selves.
really? then what has a young child that is sexually abused by a pedophile done so bad to deserve that?
Oh, i know a lot of worst things i've seen around me with kids. These things show that the government cannot make a balanced society. People are not learned to get a balanced psyche and by thus commit those horrific crimes. These only drive me harder to spread the word of the Quran and the importance of knowing the psychology of your mind.
We are here to learn salt, life is not a punishment but a school
learn what?
If life is like a 'school' then it's even more meaningless then I thought. I learnt nothing at school, i only turned up so my parents will not have to pay for the fine if i skipped school, i hated a lot of my teachers, a lot of the teachers did not want to teach, a lot of them gave work that was not on the curriculum, I had 3 different head teachers while I was at that school and they were all crap, the school rules were stupid, the rules about jewellery and having your own jacket on top of your uniform got me into trouble every lesson, my exam results won?t as good as what I was predicted to have, my school was put in "special measures" by the government coz it was so bad, the disciplinary measures were ridiculous you could probably get into more trouble not doing your homework then you can bullying someone and making their life miserable, a boy in my class was bullied for all the time he spent there, he even once tried to commit suicide, his bullies did not get in much trouble for it, at most they were excluded for a few days after four and a half years of making that boy suffer........... i can rant all day about school?. but life is not much better then that...
And if you have a "bad teacher" (i.e. a parent or a religious scholar) your gonna "fail the test" and your gonna suffer the consequences even though it is not your fault... And what does someone who died as a baby learn? What was the point of their existence?
For one, your 17, of course you hate school, plus they have a system that doesn't encourages you to learn. And you focus on the wrong teachers, God is your teacher, start paying attention. Over time you'll see what i mean...
....."Our Lord, You did not create all this in vain".....
According to my limited vision, the plan is strange, unjust, imperfect and pointless.
RK's "Why are we here" theory was an OK theory (even if it did make God sound like he had a big ego). It's a shame why you can't even get a good answer to why we are even in the Quran. This "serving God" idea is certainly not as 'straight forward' as it?s cracked out to be, when i say 'straight forward' i don't mean 'easy'- i have never expected it to be easy, I won?t say what I mean by not straight forward coz it?s a long, complex, hard to explain subject. I am a pessimistic person, I read in a psychology book that pessimistic people have a more realistic idea of the world then an optimistic person P.
No, you haven't read the message yet, doesn't mean it isn't in there. Sugar, you're 17 now, which is a confussing age, plus you're exploring Islam in a brave way. God doesn't need you, and God is not a bastard, so i know in the end we will understand, till then do your best to explore. Have patience....
No one on earth can give a 'good' explanation to why we were created ) The "everything happens for a reason" theory is just blind belief.
peace,
sugarWe are the ones who have more control then we think, but people ignore this responsibility and shuff it off on God. So a lot of things happen because we allow it. Why would God intervene, if He already gave us the power to do something about it? But you're 17!!!!haha, you see the world through those glasses. But mashallah, you are a wise young girl. Learn to be a powerfull woman, and learn the people! I really understand you, i have the same thing. I will quote a book that gave my feeling for God another boost, it is the book i mention in my story, The Silmarillion by Tolkien, the guy from Lord of the Rings. God is talking with the devil here
"Then Iluvatar(God) spoke, and He said 'Mighty are the Ainur(angels), and mightiest among them is Melkor(the devil); but that he may know, and all the Ainur, that I am Iluvatar, those things that ye have sung(created), I will show them forth, that ye may see what ye have done. And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempth this, shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderfull, which he himself hath not imagined.'"
Peace
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There is more on this earth then just humans and their business, learn to see kid, learn to see that....
yeah
i can't see anything else....
I just read agentxxx's thread i feel sick to my stomach! yuck
These things show that the government cannot make a balanced society.
It was god who gave them the power to do what they want ) The rest of us have to put up with the sh*t they put us through when the omnipotent god does nothing about it....
People are not learned to get a balanced psyche and by thus commit those horrific crimes.
please elaborate... confused
These only drive me harder to spread the word of the Quran and the importance of knowing the psychology of your mind.
that's interesting, it has the opposite effect on me...
plus they have a system that doesn't encourages you to learn.
Arnold we litrally learned nothing at school, i learn more spending 20 minutes on the Internet then I did in a whole week at school and i aint joking either...
God is your teacher
yeah but he misguides too many.... like me techers that never tought us what was on the carriculum...
No, you haven't read the message yet,
i've read it countless times and I can't find anything...
We are the ones who have more control then we think, but people ignore this responsibility and shuff it off on God.
who's 'we'?
The government have the control, 'we' have no say...
So a lot of things happen because we allow it.
yeah
Why would God intervene, if He already gave us the power to do something about it?
Again this 'us' is the government...
peace,
sugar -
Peace,
You stay pessimistic, i keep going on with my optimistic view....plus, you really talk like a 17-year old. The 'everything sucks' phase