we will PICK OUT FROM EACH SECT/GROUP the most ardent opponent?
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peace all,
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So by thy Lord! We shall certainly gather them together and the devils, then shall We bring them around hell on their knees.And, by thy Lord, verily We shall assemble them and the devils, then We shall bring them, crouching, around hell.
By your Lord, we will certainly summon them, together with the devils, and will gather them around Hell, humiliated.
So by your Lord! We will most certainly gather them together and the Shaitans, then shall We certainly cause them to be present round hell on their knees.
And, by thy Lord, WE shall assuredly gather them together, and the satanstoo; then shall WE bring them on their knees around Hell.
So, by thy Lord, without doubt, We shall gather them together, and (also) the Evil Ones (with them); then shall We bring them forth on their knees round about Hell;
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Then We shall DRAW FORTH FROM EVERY SECT those most rebellious against the Beneficent.Then We shall PLUCK OUT FROM EVERY SECT whichever of them was most stubborn in rebellion to the Beneficent.
Then we will PICK OUT FROM EACH GROUP the most ardent opponent of the Most Gracious.
Then We will most certainly DRAW FORTH FROM EVERY sect of them him who is most exorbitantly rebellious against the Beneficent Allah.
Then shall WE certainly PICK OUT, FROM EVERY GROUP, those of them who were most stubborn in rebellion against the Gracious God.
Then shall We certainly DRAG OUT FROM EVERY SECT all those who were worst in obstinate rebellion against (Allah) Most Gracious.
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Again, We certainly know best those who deserve most to be burned therein.And surely We are Best Aware of those most worthy to be burned therein.
We know full well those who are most deserving of burning therein.
Again We do certainly know best those who deserve most to be burned therein.
And surely, WE know best those deserving to be burnt therein.
And certainly We know best those who are most worthy of being burned therein.
IN THE ABOVE VERSES ALLAH SAYS THAT ON THE DAY OF JUDGMENT HE WILL SURELY GATHER ALL , AND HE WILL BRING THEM AROUND HELL ON THEIR KNEES, THEN FROM EVERY SECT/GROUP HE WILL DRAG/PICK OUT THOSE WHO WERE WORST IN OBSTINATE REBELLION AGAINST THE MOST GRACIOUS AND WHO HE CERTAINLY KNOWS DESERVE TO BE BURNED.
Do I understand from these verses that no sect/group in its totality will be thrown into fire? But only those will receive this punishment that had strongly rebelled against the most gracious?
Please help me understand these verses.
Thank you.
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See also http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=5787.0
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peace JM,
Thank you brother JM for the link, I agree with the detailed explanation provided in the link, however this explanation is regarding two types of people among the disbelievers, whereas these verse doesn?t refer to disbelievers, but all humane beings in general.
SURA 19
Man says "What! when I am dead shall I then be raised up alive?"But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?
So by thy Lord without doubt We shall gather them together and (also) the Evil Ones (with them); then shall We bring them forth on their knees round about Hell;
THEN SHALL WE CERTAINLY DRAG OUT FROM EVERY SECT all those who were worst in obstinate rebellion against (Allah) Most Gracious.
And certainly We know best those who are most worthy of being burned therein.
Not one of you but will pass over it this is with thy Lord a Decree which must be accomplished.
But We shall save those who guarded against evil and We shall leave the wrongdoers therein (humbled) to their knees.
At the moment I understand the verse 1969 through the light of the following verses though I am not sure?
And of those whom We have created ARE A PEOPLE WHO GUIDE WITH THE TRUTH and THEREBY THEY DO JUSTICE. 7181.
Not all of them are alike of the People of the book are a portion that stand (for the right); they rehearse the signs of Allah all night long and then prostrate themselves in adoration. 3113
- And of Moses' folk there is a community who lead with truth and establish justice therewith.
So Presently my own understanding is that good people and evil people are among every group/sect, and 1969 talks about the dragging out of the evil people from ever group, who will be thrown into fire whereas Allah will save those from among every group/sect who guard against evil.
Any comments?
Thank you,
God bless you. peace -
salam
remember setting up sects is idol woship (See 3031-32). And Idol worship nullifies all work.
God bless
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peace and salam brother imran,
remember setting up sects is idol woship (See 3031-32). And Idol worship nullifies all work.
i agree...but those who repent and mend their ways, Allah forgives them, it is absolutely up to him.
- And when We appointed a time of forty nights with Musa, then you took the calf (for a god) after him and you were unjust.
- Then We pardoned you after that so that you might give thanks.
HE PUNISHES WHOM HE PLEASES and HE GRANTS MERCY TO WHOM HE PLEASES and towards Him are ye turned. 2921.
God bless you,
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salam agent
those who repent and mend their ways, Allah forgives them, it is absolutely up to him.
Absoultely. Everything is up to God. He forgives whomever he wills without limits.
i meant if you die in the state of being part of a sect
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peace nadeem (is that right? )
God bless you
God bless you too
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peace imran,
peace nadeem (is that right? )
brother I hope these verses will help in better understanding
ALLAH FORGIVETH NOT THAT PARTNERS SHOULD BE SET UP WITH HIM; but He forgiveth anything else to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin most heinous indeed. 448
Lo! those who believe, then disbelieve and then (again) believe, then disbelieve, and then increase in disbelief, Allah will never pardon them, nor will He guide them unto a way. 4137
now ponder on these these verses
LET NOT THEIR CONDUCT GRIEVE THEE, who run easily to disbelief, for Lo! they injure Allah not at all. It is Allah's will to assign them no portion in the Hereafter, and theirs will be an awful doom. 3176
But if any reject Faith LET NOT HIS REJECTION GRIEVE THEE to Us is their return and We shall tell them the truth of their deeds for Allah knows well all that is in (men's) hearts.3123
O ye who believe! guard your own souls if ye follow (right) guidance no hurt can come to you from those who stray. The goal of you all is to Allah it is He that will show you the truth of all that ye do. 5105
The most important lesson I have learned from such verses is "to worry and guard my own soul" and leave the rest to the lord of the day of judgment to decide.
God bless you,
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salam
The most important lesson I have learned from such verses is "to worry and guard my own soul" and leave the rest to the lord of the day of judgment to decide.
God bless you,
peaceAmen to that ! Same message I got from reading the Quran.
More verses in relation to what you said
267 And Moses said to his people "God orders you to slaughter a heifer." They said "Do you mock us?" He said "I seek refuge with God that I not be of the ignorant ones."
7199 Take to pardoning, and order with what is good, and turn away from the ignorant ones.
2563 And the servants of the Almighty who walk on the Earth in humility and if the ignorant speak to them, they Say "Peace."
2855 And if they come across vain talk, they disregard it and Say "To us are our deeds, and to you is your deeds. Peace be upon you. We do not seek the ignorant."
233 And they abstain from vain talk.
2572 And those who do not bear false witness, and if they pass by vain talk they pass by with dignity.
God bless !