palmistry and astrology
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Peace marlboro. I believe these things can work.(negativley or positivley)
Dreams seem to be a communication with another soul(or reality). In 'wicca'( a system which can translate as 'male witch') there is a view that magik(with a 'k' to distinguish it from harmful magic) is simply a 'willed' consenting connection between two(or maybe more) souls(wills) which seeks a benefit of some kind.(ie knowing if a dead relative is ok,trying to think how a person who you have no access too is etc..)This is also called 'white magic'. The harmful magic is when it is used to achieve something harmful or when the parties are not consenting to a connection.
I think people use it when they try to think of the consequences of an action,or reflect on a past event,or consult with a 'learned' person with a view to benefit.(or harm)
The prophet muhammed obviously was in 'connection' with 'gabriel' and good people,so produced benefit in the form of a book(quran) and his good behaviour.
Bad connections can occur when a 'devil'(one who knowingly wants to do bad) tries to encourage you to do wrong,however you do not have to consent and thus can resist the connection. Peace. -
Peace marlboro. I believe these things can work.(negativley or positivley)
Dreams seem to be a communication with another soul(or reality). In 'wicca'( a system which can translate as 'male witch' there is a view that magik(with a 'k' to distinguish it from harmful magic) is simply a 'willed' consenting connection between two(or maybe more) souls(wills) which seeks a benefit of some kind.(ie knowing if a dead relative is ok,trying to think how a person who you have no access too is etc..)This is also called 'white magic'. The harmful magic is when it is used to achieve something harmful or when the parties are not consenting to a connection.
I think people use it when they try to think of the consequences of an action,or reflect on a past event,or consult with a 'learned' person with a view to benefit.(or harm)
The prophet muhammed obviously was in 'connection' with 'gabriel' and good people,so produced benefit in the form of a book(quran) and his good behaviour.
Bad connections can occur when a 'devil'(one who knowingly wants to do bad) tries to encourage you to do wrong,however you do not have to consent and thus can resist the connection. Peace.salam alykum wr wb
does it really matter if we seek help from jinns or angels for ehlp for good or bad? shouldnt it matter that we are seeking help from something other than god his creation?
amanda
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Peace,
Only God has knowledge of the unseen. When you look at surah 72 for example, you can see it refers to astrology, and that it didn't work. There are a lot more verses that God says Jibt is baseless. Jibt=fortunetelling, astrology, tarot, palmreading, sorcery.
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Peace all,
i wouldn't say it's baseless, even though some time ago i had the same opinion.
For sure 90 % of the "seers" on the market are charlatans and money makers - and also or sure, even these that do a decent job - that have a real "god given gift" can go wrong.
But i speak of experience - i had visions myself, as well as my daughter - but this is not significant as it is very rare - but each time it was a concrete scene that was going to happen later - with no way of expecting it...
A very close friend of mine has them all the time and in at least 80% of cases she is right - things happen exactly as she saw them. And i sometime wonder if these vision can be called inspiration ?
Elke
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Peace,
I don;t denounce dreams and visions, those for me are also real. These don't fall under Jibt in my eyes. But astrology and pamlreading do. Also a lot of those people who do get things right, read the Quantum field and not your palm, the thing is, they don't know that it is the Quantum field they're sensing.
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Peace arnold
in some cases the palm, cards or whatever a just a support - at least that's what my friend does. She can tell you many things about yourself just sitting in front of you - but as it scares peoples, shes uses cards. No problem for the quantum field as for as the past is seen- but what about future - how come it's already there ? That's where i wonder about inspiration....but may be i should reread your article on that subject ???
Astrology is again something else...
elke
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Peace,
That is why the cards and palmreading are fake. I understand they use it as a hide. But i believe it is time they come out as they have true God-given senses. They are more sensetive to the field, which we can learn a lot from. As for the future events not recorded, that is true. I believe myself that they can see several things that are happening around you, and then see what it causes in the future. Like she would read in the field that her car has a broken bolt somewhere, then her brain processes that into a carcrash in the future, so they can read causes and their brain gives the possible effects. But a lot of times only the possible result comes through and not the cause of that result. Maybe this has to do that their conciousness is blocked to directly recieve the information from the field, and that the information is only recieved in the sub-conciousness.
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Peace be upon you,
Has anyone here had a professional astrology reading?
I know of someone.
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Peace all
idol
Peace be upon you,
Has anyone here had a professional astrology reading?
I know of someone.
No for the question...and tell us about it for the rest !
arnold About the future event not being in "the field" sorry but her predictions are so detailed - she really sees scenes to come "en directe" - no way to calculate them even unconsciously from a+b will eventually give c....
This is why i wonder about inspiration in these cases !elke
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Peace,
Yes, there are also numerous reports on people 'feeling' there was something wrong with their plane and didn't board it, later it crashed, is this indeed seeing a+b and by thus getting c? It is hard to understand these things. We are only on the brink of understanding it all. But you have to understand there are a lot of factors involved as psychological reading of your character and also self-fulfilling prophecies and so on. It is also interresting these people cannot predict the lotery or which horse is gonna win. So they are not reading the future in an unlimited way, it is always connected with human lives. That is why i don't take them serious yet, how convincing they may look. There are to many questions to be answered as why they can only read humans.
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Peace,
ArnoldThat is why i don't take them serious yet, how convincing they may look. There are to many questions to be answered as why they can only read humans.
Maybe they are only allowed to read humans!
Palm readings, I have heard that only 11% have the line of destiny and I have discovered that I have that.
But I don't know what it means anyway.
Peace Maria
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Peace All,
There is a TV satellite channel that specializes in reading people. The minute you call them you must say your name and the name of your mother together with your birth date (information that are important for the jinn to check their yellow pages and find out all about you!). You can say your problem but in case the phone accidentally hangs up, you don't need to worry. The jinn will immediately give a long report about you to the reader and the reader will tell it all, in tarot, shells, and whatever! She will speak in a confident fast forward way about the problem you are having now, the ones you had before, your horoscope, you number, your love life, your past, your future, you name it, and what you should do about it.. She will tell you the type of stone that you should wear and the exact word that you should carve on it! Also that you should contact her once this or that thing happens, in order for her to give the appropriate advice later on,,, just to keep you hooked..
It is a common fact here that every time someone asks about your mother's name, this means that s/he is in contact with jinn. And people of true faith in Allah would always warn you from such readers. But I am thinking that maybe it is just a trick that readers use to show people that they have top qualified resources and people just fall for it. They are so easily lured.
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Peace be upon you,
Astrology deals with the Astra light. Just like the earth has an Aura called the Ionisphere, so do we, and that aura is effected by the movement of the clelestial bodies.
Basically, when we are born, there is a certain energy that we take in and this effects how we react to all energies as they return to us in a cycle.
But the bottom line is a saying "A fool is ruled by the stars, a wise man rules the stars".
That is to say, we are here to learn how to transcend conditioning.
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peace
idolfree what a beautiful post mashaAllah
Amanda
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Peace,
That is why the cards and palmreading are fake. I understand they use it as a hide. But i believe it is time they come out as they have true God-given senses. They are more sensetive to the field, which we can learn a lot from. As for the future events not recorded, that is true. I believe myself that they can see several things that are happening around you, and then see what it causes in the future. Like she would read in the field that her car has a broken bolt somewhere, then her brain processes that into a carcrash in the future, so they can read causes and their brain gives the possible effects. But a lot of times only the possible result comes through and not the cause of that result. Maybe this has to do that their conciousness is blocked to directly recieve the information from the field, and that the information is only recieved in the sub-conciousness.
Peace,
Like you know, Arnie, I used to give tarotreadings. I quite doing that 2 years ago but people are still calling me to ask me to give them another reading because my predictions were correct. I do think it were not the cards that gave me the pictures and thoughts in my head but they did motivate me to get a clearer vision. Till this day I get clear pictures and thoughts in my mind without using the tarotcards. When ignoring this I see those things happening and blame myself for ignoring that voice in my head. I do think people can feel the energy around them and predict future events. Everybody can do this. I don't know how to explain how to do this but I taught it myself by meditating/concentrating. I think we all can tap into the energyfield around us. Some can do it better then others.
Basically, when we are born, there is a certain energy that we take in and this effects how we react to all energies as they return to us in a cycle.
Great to know that I'm not the only one who thinks that. D
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