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not "a" but sura like it..........

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    unknownuser
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    Peace

    I believe verses 28-20 are about the Terrorists

    Cheers

    salam ahmed

    interesting indeed. Do you believe there are other verses that refer to the terrorists?

    I actually believe that there are other small verses that talk about them, like the verse about those on th JD who thinks they were making good deeds, however I totally believe that verses 28-20 are explilcitly about the terrorists, there is even a suprise in the english translation for these verses

    Salam

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      unknownuser
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      Peace be upon you,

      You mean this Holy text was sent to tell us about Osama Bin Laden?

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        salgan
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        Peace All

        There are many versions of a terrorist from wild eyed beareded estern version Bin layden to the white clean cut oil guzling western version Bush.

        both belive they are correct but there actions seem to tell a diffrent story.

        Peace salim

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          Peace be upon you,

          You mean this Holy text was sent to tell us about Osama Bin Laden?

          Peace

          what I'm saying is this, the verses 28-20 CAN'T be about the hypocrtites, but you have to know every so called Muslim terrorist can be a hypocrite but NOT every hypocrite is a so called Muslim terrorist, please read 28-20 again and you will see that all the descriptions in'm CAN't fit a hypocrite, it is a shame that many muslims follow the traditions blindly that these verses are about the hypocrites while the fact of the matter it can't be, simply Allah never used the description "hypocrites" to refer to them in all these 13 verses as well there is a couple of descriptions that can't fit a hypocrite

          in the english translation in the metaphor about them 219 by Yusuf Ali, we even read the word LADEN, i'm not saying it is refering to him, but what a conincedence that is for a verse giving a simlititude about the terrorists and we read the word Laden in it, all the descriptions from start to finish 38-20 fit a terrorist like a glove

          This is just another miracle of the Quran, it always describe to us the affairs happening around us

          I wrote a long article regarding this matter, if you are interested to read it, please let me know

          Salam

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            unknownuser
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            Peace All

            There are many versions of a terrorist from wild eyed beareded estern version Bin layden to the white clean cut oil guzling western version Bush.

            both belive they are correct but there actions seem to tell a diffrent story.

            Peace salim

            True

            however, verses 28-20 describe them as those who "Say we believe in Allah and the Last Day", but the truth is as told by Allah "But they don't really believe"

            if those western terrorists say that they believe in Allah and the Last Day while committing atrocities then 28-20 apply to them

            Salam

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              Peace be upon you Ahmed,

              I guess my question is does one have to be a terrorist to fit that criteria? Cant someone just do other things to fit that criteria other than kill others?

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                Peace be upon you Ahmed,

                I guess my question is does one have to be a terrorist to fit that criteria? Cant someone just do other things to fit that criteria other than kill others?

                Peace

                I meant a so called Muslim terrorist, i.e. a mass murderer who claims to believe in Allah and that Last Day but he/she does not really believe, 28

                Cheers

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                  Salaam

                  Peace

                  I believe verses 28-20 are about the Terrorists

                  Cheers

                  I totally agree.

                  I am also thinking of people like (mutawwe3) who terrorize muslims with their whips at least five times a day everyday. Another kind of terrorism?

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                    unknownuser
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                    Salaam

                    Peace

                    I believe verses 28-20 are about the Terrorists

                    Cheers

                    I totally agree.

                    I am also thinking of people like (mutawwe3) who terrorize muslims with their whips at least five times a day everyday. Another kind of terrorism?

                    Sprry sister

                    who is Mutawwe3?

                    I don't really klnow

                    Cheers

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                      peace

                      Maybe Samia is talking about Mutawwas in Saudi Arabia. I maybe wrong though.
                      They are the "religious police" of the country. Where I lived, they were around all the time, telling people to go pray, stop listening to music, making sure women were covered up etc.

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                        Peace

                        who is Mutawwe3?

                        I don't really klnow

                        google result says they are Wahhabi religious police.
                        http//www.google.es/search?hl=es&q=mutawwe3&meta=

                        is it not an Arabic word, AhmedBahgat?

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                          Peace

                          who is Mutawwe3?

                          I don't really klnow

                          google result says they are Wahhabi religious police.
                          http//www.google.es/search?hl=es&q=mutawwe3&meta=

                          is it not an Arabic word, AhmedBahgat?

                          I know those saudi police, my mum lives there, but I have never heard this word, possibly another name that I heard, I remember they call them somthin but I cared less to memorise really

                          but thanks anyway sister

                          cheers

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