important questions for a fellow human being
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so please take the time to answer them.
1 First of all, i read a few articles on this site regarding correcting translation mistakes in the noble Quran regarding wife-beating, cutting of hands etc..etc.. Is there a complete translation for sale that is in accord with these corrections? Is this the book called; the message?
2 A question about hell and defining a kafir. In my reasoning someone is a kafir that denies the idea of an absolute form of justice and goodness, this will result in nihilism and thus evil deeds. Someone that believes in justice and therefor an absolute form of goodness is already a believer even if he or she has not defined or translated this absolute form of goodness into the existence of god. God is but a word, the meaning of god is an absolute form of goodness that is engraved in the heart of every noble human being, that is what is important. thus even an atheist could believe in god even if he or she is unaware of it. Someone that does not carry this in his or her heart can truly be defined as a kafir since horrible deeds are mostly the result.
This is an important question for a person who was not born into a muslim family or even a theistic family and does not enjoy imagining their good-hearted relatives in an everlasting hell.
What do you think of my reasoning?
3 How do you as a ''quran only'' muslim relate to other muslims, is there still a sense of brotherhood? Do you go to traditional mosques?
4 The hadith literature contains some good passages about treating animals in a compassionate way. Are there any of these passages in the quran? Also, is animal sacrifice necesarry?
5 Are animals slaughtered for their meat even in paradise?
6 Is it true that the arts, music, sculptures etc.... are not condemned in the noble Quran? As long as they are not connected to idol worship ofcourse.
7 Do "quran only'' muslims get all their information about the prophet mohammad (peace be upon him) from the the noble quran?
Ok, these are it for now,
salaam
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Salaam friend
welcome
I strongly incline towards agreeing with you on point 22 A question about hell and defining a kafir. In my reasoning someone is a kafir that denies the idea of an absolute form of justice and goodness, this will result in nihilism and thus evil deeds. Someone that believes in justice and therefor an absolute form of goodness is already a believer even if he or she has not defined or translated this absolute form of goodness into the existence of god. God is but a word, the meaning of god is an absolute form of goodness that is engraved in the heart of every noble human being, that is what is important. thus even an atheist could believe in god even if he or she is unaware of it. Someone that does not carry this in his or her heart can truly be defined as a kafir since horrible deeds are mostly the result.
I'll leave the rest for the rest
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peace,
1 First of all, i read a few articles on this site regarding correcting translation mistakes in the noble Quran regarding wife-beating, cutting of hands etc..etc.. Is there a complete translation for sale that is in accord with these corrections? Is this the book called; the message?
I believe the following translations have the above
The Message
http//free-minds.org/TheMessage.pdfQuran Reformist Translation
http//19org.googlegroups.com/web/Quran%3A%20a%20Reformist%20Translation%200979671507.pdfQXP
http//www.ourbeacon.com/?cat=82 A question about hell and defining a kafir. In my reasoning someone is a kafir that denies the idea of an absolute form of justice and goodness, this will result in nihilism and thus evil deeds. Someone that believes in justice and therefor an absolute form of goodness is already a believer even if he or she has not defined or translated this absolute form of goodness into the existence of god. God is but a word, the meaning of god is an absolute form of goodness that is engraved in the heart of every noble human being, that is what is important. thus even an atheist could believe in god even if he or she is unaware of it. Someone that does not carry this in his or her heart can truly be defined as a kafir since horrible deeds are mostly the result.
This is an important question for a person who was not born into a muslim family or even a theistic family and does not enjoy imagining their good-hearted relatives in an everlasting hell.
What do you think of my reasoning?
kafir essentially means "to cover over", "be ungrateful" and it's primary signification is as a description, not a label/title. One must receive something first to be ungrateful, or have something first before they can cover it over. You can study the term thoroughly using
http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm3 How do you as a ''quran only'' muslim relate to other muslims, is there still a sense of brotherhood? Do you go to traditional mosques?
I, as a muslim, relate to other Muslims more in a ethnic-cultural sense (like most members of organised religions), not really in terms of beliefs. For me, a sense of brotherhood is not limited by the title/label of the person, so this is irrelevant to me. I dont go to traditional mosques. If I had to, it would only be for something like a funeral etc.
4 The hadith literature contains some good passages about treating animals in a compassionate way. Are there any of these passages in the quran? Also, is animal sacrifice necesarry?
The traditional Hadith also discuss treating animals in an uncompassionate way, e.g. see dogs. Whenever treatment of animals is discussed in al quran, it is never in a negative way (as far as I'm aware), for example, the allowable killing of animal methods limit the pain felt by the animal.
5 Are animals slaughtered for their meat even in paradise?
Can't recall any specific verses on this point, but paradise is different to earth, and even the verses discussing food in paradise should not be taken literally, they are simply to give us an idea/picture.
6 Is it true that the arts, music, sculptures etc.... are not condemned in the noble Quran? As long as they are not connected to idol worship ofcourse.
If they are used for positive/good, then there should be no problem, generally speaking. See the powerful verse of 1667 for a sign.
7 Do "quran only'' muslims get all their information about the prophet mohammad (peace be upon him) from the the noble quran?
muslims should get their info (with respect to their beliefs) from the highest quality sources available, e.g. al quran. Any information on the prophets/messengers from external sources should be treated with caution.
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Peace and welcome,
1 First of all, i read a few articles on this site regarding correcting translation mistakes in the noble Quran regarding wife-beating, cutting of hands etc..etc.. Is there a complete translation for sale that is in accord with these corrections? Is this the book called; the message?
The Message will be available for sale on-line later on this month/early next month. However, as brother Wakas pointed out, you can download the same from the links he provided.
2 A question about hell and defining a kafir. In my reasoning someone is a kafir that denies the idea of an absolute form of justice and goodness, this will result in nihilism and thus evil deeds. Someone that believes in justice and therefor an absolute form of goodness is already a believer even if he or she has not defined or translated this absolute form of goodness into the existence of god. God is but a word, the meaning of god is an absolute form of goodness that is engraved in the heart of every noble human being, that is what is important. thus even an atheist could believe in god even if he or she is unaware of it. Someone that does not carry this in his or her heart can truly be defined as a kafir since horrible deeds are mostly the result.
Not sure I agree with that. A kafir is a person who rejects God and/or His laws. A person who does good but does not believe in God has failed since believing/accepting God alone is the key element from passing sucessfully from this life to the next.
This is an important question for a person who was not born into a muslim family or even a theistic family and does not enjoy imagining their good-hearted relatives in an everlasting hell.
Without believing in god, the good deeds have no value.
3 How do you as a ''quran only'' muslim relate to other muslims, is there still a sense of brotherhood? Do you go to traditional mosques?
I am a Muslim (not quran only) and I relate to other Muslims as my true family.
4 The hadith literature contains some good passages about treating animals in a compassionate way. Are there any of these passages in the quran? Also, is animal sacrifice necesarry?
The Quran does not contain animal torture if that is what you are asking? With regards to sacrifice, it is a tool to certain benefits but not a nessesity.
5 Are animals slaughtered for their meat even in paradise?
We will have meat to eat from in Paradise (if we are lucky enough to make it there) - 5621.
6 Is it true that the arts, music, sculptures etc.... are not condemned in the noble Quran? As long as they are not connected to idol worship ofcourse.
True.
7 Do "quran only'' muslims get all their information about the prophet mohammad (peace be upon him) from the the noble quran?
Muslims do.
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Peace, according to quran, we are submitters(in english) but people here feel ashamed to be called submitters for fear of being associating to the ICS, Tucson. But somehow they are not ashamed of calling themselves 'muslims' despite of the confusion that this surely generates, confusion that will put them in the same basket as those who condemn anti-hadith ideology, as those who condone terrorism, prophet-worship, etc
It makes no sense that animals will be slaughtered in heaven, the description of heaven is purely symbolic, it is a dimension that our minds cannot understand, therefore God uses analogy to make us understand. I have never tasted caviar before, so unless you describe it to me in comparison with things i already tasted, i would not know.
Why would i seek to know more on muhammad? Why him only?
