WHY NO ACTION IS TAKEN AGAINT DANISH?
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Wow, this is retarded. Im happy to see everyone so loyal to the teachings of their scriptures and apparent ethics. Everybody is spinning what eachother says, and this is therefore nothing close to a debate but.
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and im happy that yalls says yous smiling like the kids in the photo.
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YOUVE ALL WON. CONGRANTULATIONS!
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Hello Danish
Mummification was the ancient religious form of a proper burial. Are you trying to tell me that if someone was killed or died of unnatural causes they would leave them to rot on the shore?
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Are you trying to tell me that if someone was killed or died of unnatural causes they would leave them to rot on the shore?
What?? LOL! Where did you get that idea from? I'm afraid to say, that you really didn't understand what we have been talking about all along or perhaps not properly following through???? Read the points carefully again please, specially the last paragraph which is the main concern
If it wasn't for the research already done, I wouldn't have provided you with the link (and other links within it) where members debated this issue. Besides, I doubt that you read or understood it thoroughly. Anyhow, here are some points to ponder and do your own research
- Merenptah is not Firaun.
- Merenptah died a NATURAL DEATH at an OLD AGE.
- Merenptah was mummified just like any other. In historic times, it was a sacred burial custom to do so.
- There are abundance of mummified Pharoah found from various regions of the world that lived even long before Moses's time.
- Animal mummies have also been found.
- Did Allah forget to mention Merenptah in the Quran?
- The story of sea splitting apart by a stick is ludicrous and simply a myth.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merenptah
http//www.touregypt.net/featurestories/merenptah.htm
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummies
http//news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/09/0915_040915_petmummies.htmlNow then, did Firaun and his soldiers got washed away in sea or were they preserved by their people, has yet to be answered? A clear contradiction. Besides, the repetitious story of Moses spread throughout the Quran is very inconsistent. This only tells me and as accurately as per Quranic compilation history and as well as 8015, that the Quran is a collection of stories by several people put together.
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Peace Danish
Why is it an either/or statement? Why does it have to be that he either drowned OR he was preserved? Couldn't he have been killed in the sea and subsequently found and taken to have a proper religious burial by his people, hence mummified?
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Peace Danish
Why is it an either/or statement? Why does it have to be that he either drowned OR he was preserved? Couldn't he have been killed in the sea and subsequently found and taken to have a proper religious burial by his people, hence mummified?
My dear, who are you talking about now, Firaun or Merenptah? We have already dicussed Merenptah, so shall we put this one aside and move on or are you still not satisfied even after presenting you with the stated factual points? And please don't make assumptions as to whether Firaun and his accomplices were swept away into sea or mummified or both or whether it was just Firaun and not his accomplices? The question of either/or statement IS the real concern making the specific verses either contradictory or inconsistent relevant to other similar verses. Besides, your question was already stated by mquran, so why repeat this again. I've talked about this and given enough evidence otherwise. Unless you bring about some real solid evidence of Firaun being killed at sea, drowned and swept away into sea and then somehow was found or fished out and lastly mummified, I am not buying such fanciful stories. The contradiction and inconsistencies to Moses stories remains intact.
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One difference. The UN is a paper tiger while our mods have the power. They just choose not to use it. In my view, the Quranic response would be to eliminate troublemakers (defined as ppl who are out to insult and mock without ever having discussed anything) from this forum.
..................Salam mq,
Like what I call bananas institutions/gov., this forum moderators/administrators are also bananas. If it was not the joke posted on their main website about God and HIS path ONLY, I would not have cared about their banana administrating/moderating (if any because I have not seen them moderating anything with the exception of moving a thread here and there and remove other threads here and there).
Anyway, let's the mockery continue and witness that the trash will generate only the trash as per the Quran. So stay away from the devil. Peace. Myr -
Anyway, let's the mockery continue and witness that the trash will generate only the trash as per the Quran. So stay away from the devil. Peace. Myr
Exactamundo!!! "Heeeeere comes Johnny" the miscreant again calling for continued aggression. yay
Peace all. Seriously though, some people are just too weak, afraid, abusive and live their lives to instill terror. People are simply frightened to ask questions or criticise a book named Quran. I ask you Why? For pete's sake, its a book and that too an ancient one, not a venomous cobra or a rattle snake that will kill you instantly. I am so glad and thankfull to the UK and Pakistani authorities to stop the malicious terror plot about to generate. These are the very Islamic fascists, extremists and bigoted thugs who force Quranic rules in the name of Allah down people's throat in much the same way a few people here demonstrate. They are trying extremely hard to devolve humanity from advancing and keep them in their dungeons with zesty bananas. Its about time people sobre up and realise the beauty of nature and live in reality as humans and not as fearful fanatics. must change their thoughts and compromise with all non-Muslims to achieve the unity everyone deserves. You must avoid living by the stringent rules of once-upon-a-time days in FEAR and DISGUISE and at the same time shake hands with others. That just won't happen. Sorry guys, had to blow this one out. -[
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Peace Danish
Firun is not a name. Firun = pharoah (any pharoah) in arabic. In Egypt you'll hear anyone say el feruun ramsis, el feruun tut aankhamun, el feruun mubarak ;D
just means the pharoah so-and-so. so Mineptah, having a temple and was mummified must have been royalty i.e. a pharoah (or firuun if you're saying it in arabic).
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Peace
the kid in the photo is not 'retarded', he's is not even 'a disabled/handicapped person' but, as the correct, respectful words we should use, he is a 'person with mental/learning disability'. Person, the first.
Just to fix the disrespect showed placing the word 'retarded' under his image.
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Peace
the kid in the photo is not 'retarded', he's is not even 'a disabled/handicapped person' but, as the correct, respectful words we should use, he is a 'person with mental/learning disability'. Person, the first.
Just to fix the disrespect showed placing the word 'retarded' under his image.
http//www.ondmis.dk/billeder/forumpics/arguing.jpg
Witness mquran on British marathon trackfield. bravo rotfl
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Peace Salgan
Peace Elena
As we can see in to days world a lot of poloticians and religious leaders,show they have a mental/learning disability and I would not class the child as one .I would use the term special needs instead.yes, I recommended the terms used in the psychology field in UK, but yes, sounds better.
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peace Elena
In Denmark where political corectness hasnt poluted our communication that much yet. The kid is retarded. The very difinition of the word retareed suggest what you just said yourself. Retarded is not a bad word just because you and a bunch of moralists think so. My best freinds brother is retarded, and none of us, or him for that matter, has a problem with him being so.
death to political corectness
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Peace Magi,
"death to political corectness" yeah, death
the comment was not against you but the people who created the joke,
and if the word retarded is not insulting /disrespectful, why was it used to moke people that argue on the net?
About the word being correct in Denmark, it is a bit strange for me, I know it is not correct at all in Spain, UK, Sweden and Canada. Could you check if it is really as you say there? in the psychology field, please, not in moralist fields -)
Peace
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Firun is not a name. Firun = pharoah (any pharoah) in arabic. In Egypt you'll hear anyone say el feruun ramsis, el feruun tut aankhamun, el feruun mubarak ;D
Yes, I know that already from the link I preiously provided. Pharoah is a title given to royalities such as kings, rulers, etc. But again, one of my points was that did Allah forget to mention this specific Pharoah who troubled Moses. Also, were Issa and Musa the real names of these prophets of God?
just means the pharoah so-and-so. so Mineptah, having a temple and was mummified must have been royalty i.e. a pharoah (or firuun if you're saying it in arabic).
Once again, if Pharoah is a general title of so-and-so, and Merenptah as we've determined, was not the Pharoah who troubled Moses, and knowing that several Pharoah found, then which Pharoah are we now talking about that specifically troubled Moses with his army? Besides, my previous points has yet to addressed.
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Danish,
Actually, I was not making a judgement call on you, but merely asking rhetorical questions for consideration. It is true that many people seem to have a beef with you, and I asked if the situation is becoming disruptive or is perhaps your arguments serve a purpose. I do like the name thepinky that you referred to me with, maybe I will change my nickname.
As for all of this nonsense going on in this thread, I think more than a few people are being disruptive and carrying this argument to the detriment of the forum. I especially find it distasteful when people seek to label someone as for or against god. That sounds too close to takfir for me. That said, I really haven't been following this argument and I hope that it stops. It is tiring when people bring their argument with someone to every thread a person is on. In fact, it is cyberstalking when people do that. Please leave your arguments in the original threads and quit mucking up all the rest of them.....and this is to everyone who is doing this. There is nothing more tedious than reading a discussion and person A posts an answer and person B, who doesn't like person A, comes on that thread and starts crap with that person -usually about something that is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. Furthermore, this name calling and bashing of each other is childish and I believe it is against the tenants of the Qur'an.
Once I hook up my new keyboard, I am going to type out and post my notes from argumentive writing on the topic 'When it is useless to have a discussion?' To sum it up now however, it is usually when
a. people are so fanatical about their pov that there is no chance of movement in any direction;
b. when people require absolute proof on everything and refuse to grant even minimal shared assumptions as true. For example, say the topic is 'Is the Hajj a literal or symbolical pilgrimage?' Now the unstated assumption is that the Qur'an is real. Person A, who believes the Qur'an is the word of God says literal and explains why. Person b, who also accepts the assumtion that the Qur'an is real says no, it is symbolical and proceeds to state their reasons. The person C shows up and doesn't believe in God or the Qur'an so thus doesn't accept the basic assumption of the topic. Person C then says it doesn't exist at all because the Qur'an is false and demands proof that the Qur'an is not false. Now persons A and B are forced to address this issue which now leads the discussion completely away form the original topic. Some mind not mind the new direction, but many find it irritating to say the least. It is useless to try to have a discussion when the very basic assumptions are not accepted by the members of the discussion/audience. It will just go around in a regressive circle (esp. when absolute proof is demanded) and the original topic is lost.
To reiterate, it can be very tiring if 2 people are on the same page regarding the unstated assumptions and having a discussion, for a third person to waltz in and start arguing about the assumptions. If anyone is guilty of this, and we all have been at some point I am sure, then we need to stop this behavior. At the very least, make a new thread to debate the assumptions that you disagreed with in the original thread instead of mucking it up for everyone else who is interested in the original topic.
Thank you very much and have a nice day.
The Pink
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peace
I don't think there should be any action taken against Danish.
agree with Magi about political correctness, but we should make some effort to not offend others. No one benifits from offensive language, whether it should be offensive or not.
Appreciate your support. As mentioned several times, that all these people who have no desire to DISCUSS but only CUSS are the ones who cannot take my strong criticisms. Take an example of this "jew muslim"( rotfl) cultish individual who started this thread. Surprisingly enough, there's not one person who has condemned the disparaging behaviour of mquran. This only displays their own egocentric attitudes to support such venemous counterparts and hence their blind beliefs.
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Danish,
I looked for your introductory post but did not find it. Did you make an introduction? If not, would you mind giving me a bit of your background? Have you ever considered yourself muslim, do you now? What is your viewpoint on the Qur'an? What is your viewpoint on God? I am just curious.
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As mentioned several times, that all these people who have no desire to DISCUSS but only CUSS
Describes you in a nutshell ! Such hypocrisy ! rotfl Have you ever discovered the MIRROR?