What isn't (Allah) god?
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Salaams,
Sorry not to disappoint you, I do believe in the creator of mankind and all but I doubt if Allah is His name.
But this topic is being modified.
Thanks.
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Salaam,
I think "names" are just human concept. I don't think The God/Allah/Gusti Aloh/Hyang Widi/etc. can be contained in just a name. Whatever term humans are using to address Him/Her/It, is just for ease of reference. The God is ineffable; but we have no choice but to use "descriptions" when discussing about Him/Her/It.
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Hi nadeem ,
i used dictionary of the holy quran by abdul mannan.
And Br. Adley,
i think you slightly misunderstood my point that I don't think Allah is for denoting The lord but simply a word denoting A visible state of raletionship/ relationships with people e.t.c.
Salaams.
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Name = ismun = character = idiology.
Allah's name is not a just simple name the ID that men called Him, but reflects His character.
So Bismillah means to do everything to be concord with His idiology, His character, not your character not men's idiology.
English to be very cute to take "ism" as idiology, while moslems just regards it as name, once again just name, that they call restlessly everyday His name without any meaning just for 'reward'
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Easy simple. Once again i feel you are on to something very,very significant...Please delve into this topic some more....Keep up the good work... bravo
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Salaams,
Sorry not to disappoint you, I do believe in the creator of mankind and all but I doubt if Allah is His name.
Using quranic dictionary.
Walillahi al-asmao alhusnafaodAAoohu biha watharoo allatheenayulhidoona fee asma-ihi sayujzawna ma kanooyaAAmaloona
The most beautiful names belong to Allah so call on him by them; but shun such men as use profanity in his names for what they do, they will soon be requited.
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And for the visible relationships/ Bond are the excellent recognitions so strive to it by them and leave those who are distorted in their character they will be requited (for) what they used to do.Wa-ilahukum ilahun wahidunla ilaha illa huwa alrrahmanualrraheemu
And your Allah is One Allah There is no god but He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
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And your relationship/ Bond (is) one relationship/ bond (there is) no relationship/ bond but it most graciousness, most mercifulness.1237
He said "Before any food comes (in due course) to feed either of you, I will surely reveal to you the truth and meaning of this ere it befall you that is part of the (duty) which my Lord hath taught me. I have (I assure you) abandoned the ways of a people that believe not in Allah and that (even) deny the Hereafter.
Abandoning ways of people is to believe in Allah.So
Ways of people = Allah.
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Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to Allah and is a doer of good, - He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
Submitting your whole self to Allah doesn?t include doing good.640
Say "Think ye to yourselves, if there come upon you the wrath of Allah, or the Hour (that ye dread), would ye then call upon other than Allah?- (reply) if ye are truthful!
Yes I believe you do call upon Allah but what is Allah?Who do we call?
A doctor, a relative, a friend and may be anybody we think can/ will help don?t we?
And then we forget all this as soon as we are saved and go into our normal routine, thus forgetting how we should behave thus setting up partners to the relationship- of what we owe.I thinks.
May His blessings be upon you.
Salam Simple.
Lets replace the word "Allah" with "A doctor, a relative, a friend"
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Say "Think ye to yourselves, if there come upon you the wrath of 'a doctor/a relative/a friend', or the Hour (that ye dread), would ye then call upon other than 'a doctor/a relative/a friend'?- (reply) if ye are truthful!What does this verse mean now? Tell us.
Also replace the word Allah in verses 112/1-4, and try to make some sense of them
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Say "He is 'a doctor/a relative/a friend', the One,"1122
"'a doctor/a relative/a friend'God, the Absolute,"1123
"He does not give birth, nor was He given birth to,"1124
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Sorry this line of reasoning is wrong - i think.
I was just talking out loud - its not my thinking now .
If a moderator can delete it fine - we can all make mistakes .
Thanks.
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You can delete your post yourself by hitting the "Remove" button at the top-right of your post.
Btw, Enquirer will be disappointed
Easy simple. Once again i feel you are on to something very,very significant...Please delve into this topic some more....Keep up the good work... bravo
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Salaams fahad,
But this is my view-Now.
try this for fashion.
A summery .
2559 The One who created the heavens and the Earth and what is between them in six days, then He settled to the throne. The Almighty; SO ASK HIM FOR HE IS EXPERT.
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When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them) I LISTEN TO THE PRAYER OF EVERY SUPPLIANT WHEN HE CALLETH ON ME LET THEM ALSO, WITH A WILL, LISTEN TO MY CALL, and believe in Me That they may walk in the right way.
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And your Lord says "CALL ON ME; I WILL ANSWER YOUR (Prayer) but those who are too arrogant to serve Me will surely find themselves in Hell - in humiliation!"So could we ask and get directed by the Almighty.
The ayah's depict a two way communication thingy.
Do you ask and are answered -I think it does.I think the advancing world tends to associate these things with the persons mind - the conscious mind and the sub-conscious various the quran adheres to you and Allah.
Is it possible to say even the guidance you receive in your mind say the direction of your school the road map is from Allah also? What do you think?
I.e. if you think of your local school say instantly you get the direction as well as the map of where it is in your head.
SUB-CONSCIOUS
It Calculates, Plots and Plans and never makes a mistake.I think I can?t say where Allah is but we do know where the subconscious is, and may be Allah works via this biological device to influence us in different ways if one deserves enough.
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YUSUFALI It was We Who created man, and We know what dark suggestions his soul makes to him for We are nearer to him than (his) jugular vein.The subconscious mind is analytical. It creates, computes, plots, plans and NEVER makes a mistake! It is this part of the mind that we use least but rely on most.
http//www.submityourarticle.com/articles/Maya-Jakes-468/mind-power-1824.php
May be when we say/think 2+4=? Answer is from Allah. So All such thoughts we receive may be from Allah and that is why He says to
"CALL ON ME; I WILL ANSWER YOU?
When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close.
So is this how Allah wants us to ask Him and be answered?
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YUSUFALI They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).As He certainly doesn?t want us following others before Him.
And who doesn?t Allah answer?
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YUSUFALI As for those who sell the faith they owe to Allah and their own plighted word for a small price, they shall have no portion in the Hereafter Nor will Allah (Deign to) speak to them or look at them on the Day of Judgment, nor will He cleans them (of sin) They shall have a grievous penalty.So who are these people who Allah doesn?t answer I will let you ponder on that-look around the world-please.
Gods Blessings.
By the way I also have a belief that human minds sub-consciously are linked, as I and many other people have seen that you may receive certain thoughts when other people are talking about them.
And sometimes you may have a dream at the time someone is talking about you or something????.strange or what.
I have often experienced this myself.
Thanks and
God Bless All.
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Peace be upon you,
God works through the "subconcious", yes, that is how our heart beats, that is how we eat an almond and it is turned into flesh, etc. Our goal in life is to exalt the God;s work through the subconsious to control our entire lives. Imagine the same "Being" who coordinates our bodies , doing the same for our marriage, our career, etc.
However, the God is not = to the subconcious, we can program the subconcious to manifest evil behavior
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Peace
Some of us believe name of our lord according to the Quraan is Allah.
Can anyone name the god of Jews and the Christians ?
Yes and some of us call Him Rama.
But i think Allah isn't a name it is like we have adopted Kaba of the quran to be the stone structure in mecca.
I think it may just mean something like "Him indeed or Verily Him or Him certainly or by Him" e.t.c
But this is only a view for the time being.
God Bless us.
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Salaams idol,
we can program the subconcious to manifest evil behavior
i won't say you're wrong but can you please back this up with some type of proofs.
Salaams.
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Salam Simple.
Salaams fahad,
But this is my view-Now.
try this for fashion.
Ok.
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When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them) I LISTEN TO THE PRAYER OF EVERY SUPPLIANT WHEN HE CALLETH ON ME LET THEM ALSO, WITH A WILL, LISTEN TO MY CALL, and believe in Me That they may walk in the right way.The BOLD part is about 'calling', not 'asking'.
AND this verse talks about the servants of Allah. Not everyone.
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And your Lord says "CALL ON ME; I WILL ANSWER YOUR (Prayer) but those who are too arrogant to serve Me will surely find themselves in Hell - in humiliation!"So could we ask and get directed by the Almighty.
No. When we CALL on Him, He replies, in either positive or negative.
The ayah's depict a two way communication thingy.
Do you ask and are answered -I think it does.The QUESTIONS are answered in the Quran.
I think the advancing world tends to associate these things with the persons mind - the conscious mind and the sub-conscious various the quran adheres to you and Allah.
Is it possible to say even the guidance you receive in your mind say the direction of your school the road map is from Allah also? What do you think?
I.e. if you think of your local school say instantly you get the direction as well as the map of where it is in your head.
According to verse 393, Allah does not guide the one who is a liar, a rejector.
So do the liars and rejectors get lost on the road?!
May be when we say/think 2+4=? Answer is from Allah. So All such thoughts we receive may be from Allah and that is why He says to
So liars and rejectors cannot calculate 2+4= ?? Since they are not guided by Allah.
And who doesn?t Allah answer?
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YUSUFALI As for those who sell the faith they owe to Allah and their own plighted word for a small price, they shall have no portion in the Hereafter Nor will Allah (Deign to) speak to them or look at them on the Day of Judgment, nor will He cleans them (of sin) They shall have a grievous penalty.This verse is not about answering but about speaking and looking. AND it is about the day of ressurection, not about this life.
So who are these people who Allah doesn?t answer I will let you ponder on that-look around the world-please.
Only those who do not call on Him.
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Salaams Br,
The questions are answered in the Quran.
But you said
No. When we CALL on Him, He replies, in either positive or negative.
So does he reply to us or not?
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So who are these people who Allah doesn?t answer I will let you ponder on that-look around the world-please.Only those who do not call on Him.
So they are those who follow others rather then their God who is willing to answer them.
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Salaams Br,
The questions are answered in the Quran.
But you said
No. When we CALL on Him, He replies, in either positive or negative.
So does he reply to us or not?
He replies to the CALL, not the QUESTIONS. Two different words. Checkout the actual Arabic text. (Although you do not believe that it is Arabic.)
So who are these people who Allah doesn?t answer I will let you ponder on that-look around the world-please.
Only those who do not call on Him.
So they are those who follow others rather then their God who is willing to answer them.
Is that what you mean?Not "follow", just "CALL". Those who do not call on God.
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Salaams Fahad,
No. When we CALL on Him, He replies, in either positive or negative.
He replies to the CALL, not the QUESTIONS. Two different words. Checkout the actual Arabic text.
There is the consciouse mind and then there is the subconsciouse mind.
And Allah acts upon the subconsciouse minds of men and thereby men ? so I think.
Sorry I like to do research so I don?t have time for too much chatter.
And yes you do bring out question which give room for further research and yes I still hold to my view though not 100% of what it was.
And may be you should do likewise ? its very helpful I think.
And please check the voting aswell.
God Bless.
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Salam Simple.
Salaams Fahad,
There is the consciouse mind and then there is the subconsciouse mind.
And Allah acts upon the subconsciouse minds of men and thereby men ? so I think.
Sorry I like to do research so I don?t have time for too much chatter.
And yes you do bring out question which give room for further research
I am glad to be of help ) .
and yes I still hold to my view though not 100% of what it was.
Ok. I respect that.
And may be you should do likewise ? its very helpful I think.
I will do likewise if you do similar questioning of my understanding.
And please check the voting aswell.
What voting?