Did I commit a sin while fasting ..
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Who is talking ideal? He had a massage from someone trained to do so and people try to make it out as if it was a problem, or even "shady" in regard to faith. If his intentions was to get a massage, then what is the problem? The more of a lid you put on things, the more pervs you create. Antidrug laws, makes youngsters smoke more dope, not less. This is a fact.
I don't think people are trying to make it as if it was a problem. The guy came with this "problem" and asked for advice and people are giving their advice and opinions. Perhaps you missed it, but here it is
"Ok I know I have committed a big sin. I just went with the intentions of getting a massage n nuthing else. I know its up to Allah todecide whether its a sin or not but just want ur views. I m also fasting so I hope my fast hasnt been nullified.
I have been feeling so guilty after that and vowed to never go again just because of this. I m just scared of this experience having a bad effect on my future. I have my driving test tmrw and going to uni on sat so I hope this experience doesnt make me fail my test or makes me have a bad time at uni. I really am repentful on this.Whats the best way to repent from Allah on this? I need advice asap. "
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Peace
My advice to you is to speak up next time you need to make something clear to someone. Do not expect other people to know your limits or what you are looking for. Maybe you were hoping that this lady would touch your penis which kept you from speaking up. Our intentions are not necessarily clear to us because shame hides them and we think they were unintentional.
Joe
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Sorry to laugh people,but.....The sexual repression of religion gets me every time!!!!!!!!!!!! rotfl bravo yay group elektro sun O0 >D muscle D ;D
ps; i recommend a full body massage with ones partner,a bottle of oil,two red bulls,a pack of three (preferably flavoured!!!) ,a lot of free-time,and LOTS of imagination!!!!!......Works for me every time..... elektro elektro muscle muscle >D O0 handshake... two red bulls? hm, what do you do with bulls? On second thought, please dont tell me. P
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Peace Danish
Wow is that really a type of massage or did you just get the "special treatment" ?
I don't think I'm going to get a massage anytime soon after all these stories D
P.S. You could ask Elke out on a date. We can make you a new thread for just you two lovebugs ;D i kid i kid
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Very good post nabi...
ps; the 'red bull' is a caffeine rich sports energy drink made in england....I draw the line with animals,though some characters act like animals anyway!!! -
It is totally against the Qur'anic principles and morals to even consider a massage from a member of the opposite sex who is a non-mehram (even from a mehram save your wife, for this type of massage, because it is too intimate). When you were there, you should not have accepted the massage from that lady to begin with as a believer. I am not going to make it a laughing or a joking matter because it is clearly not.
"Say to the believers (to) lower/humble from their eye sights , and they protect/safe keep from their genital parts between their legs, that is more pure/correct for them, that God (is) expert/experienced with what they make/do"
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"And do not go near fornication. It is an indecent act, an evil way"
You must not go anywhere near this act. And example of this would be the intimacy in question here.
A Muslim is a person who is constantly aware of Allah according to the Qur'an. A Muslim always thinks of Allah and does everything with Allah in mind. Ask yourself, were you thinking of Allah then? I would strongly advise you do not go in for this sort of massage again.
Finally remember that, Allah is forgiving. If you mend your way, and seek Allah's forgiveness, inshAllah you will find Allah forgiving - that is provided you mend your ways
"Repentance is only for those who commit sin out of ignorance and then repent soon after; these will be forgiven by God, God is Knowledgeable, Wise."
?Those who remember God and implore forgiveness for their sins if they do something shameful or wrong themselves ? who forgives but God? ? and who never knowingly persist in doing wrong. The reward for such people is forgiveness from their Lord, and Gardens graced with flowing streams, there to remain. How excellent is the reward of those who labour!?
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Hello BOOST,
Wow is that really a type of massage or did you just get the "special treatment" ?
I don't think I'm going to get a massage anytime soon after all these stories
I'm not sure if it was/is a special treatment, but one hell of a massage that lasted only a few minutes (the "sandwich" that is) and quite expensive. Just before getting "sandwiched", there's this initial standard massage therapy that relaxes your body at first. I was lured into this by a mexican friend, whom I'd met at Redwood Village (San Mateo), just North of San Jose (Near San Francisco), California, a few years ago.
Edit And I found nothing "evil" about this whole natural experience.
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It is totally against the Qur'anic principles and morals to even consider a massage from a member of the opposite sex who is a non-mehram (even from a mehram save your wife, for this type of massage, because it is too intimate). When you were there, you should not have accepted the massage from that lady to begin with as a believer. I am not going to make it a laughing or a joking matter because it is clearly not.
how on earth did you manage to interpretate all this, out of this?
"Say to the believers (to) lower/humble from their eye sights , and they protect/safe keep from their genital parts between their legs, that is more pure/correct for them, that God (is) expert/experienced with what they make/do"
I hate it when people do that. Lets look at this verse in the light of what the poster actually said.
"When was on my back, she covered my thingy" ...lets look at what the verse says "and they protect/safe keep from their genital parts between their legs". see perfect match. What you are doing is the one thing i hate the most. You tell us your personal viewpoint, and then try to back it up via scripture.
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"And do not go near fornication. It is an indecent act, an evil way"
You must not go anywhere near this act. And example of this would be the intimacy in question here.
massage is fornification??? more superimposing own values on the book.
peace
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As salamu alaykum wr wb.
Respectfully.I think you're right The God will decide what that was - a sin or not, The God is the Only Judge here, right?
Anyways, you should avoid such situations where you know you might get tempted or touched or start thinking of you-know-what.The only thing is can tell you is this get married and your wife will give you a massage. InshaAllah. I think that experience will be much better.
May The God Almighty helps us all.
As salamu alaykum wr wb.