Arnold Yasin question on the Miracles

amuslim

Peace all,

Hi Arnold, long time. I saw your posts in the other thread that Rover made and it sparked some questions that wasn't directly answered there. If you don't mind.

What is your take on Jesus making the bird out of clay and giving it life? I remember reading I believe it was yours stating that the leprosy and such that Jesus was claimed to make was metaphors relating to bringing them back onto the path of Truth and such, and not the literal take that the Muslims generally use. How can the bird be used?
Whats your take on cloning in regards to Quran where it states "between man and woman". I know this was brought up in that thread but I wasn't sure on your answer. Also, what about stem cell research where they claim that they can even make sperm out of any tissue from the human body?
What of Jesus with the table of food?
How old was Jesus when he actually talked? Did he really tell Mary to eat the fruit when he was still a baby? Why did she point to Jesus when she was cradling him for him to tell the others that she was not unchaste?
Can you clear up the confusion with Jonah? Was he really in the belly of a fish?

Thanks and Ill ask more if it comes to me.

Peace

unknownuser

Peace amuslim

I think the answers to all the questions you have asked in your post, plus even more are answered in the articles "evolution of thinking", by Arnold. There are 3 parts in his series, and below is part 1 of the "evolution of thinking" articles

The evolution of thinking part 1
http//www.19.org/index.php?id=91,548,0,0,1,0

There are also many past threads in the forum about the miracles, and if they were allegories/metaphors, or true miracles. read the threads in the links below, they contain a lot of interesting information about the miracles being allegoric etc

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16187.0

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14219.0

arnoldyasin

Salaam,

But you had said

I am reading through "Evolution of Thinking" and you have answered many "fairy tale" questions.

? Please read it again as they are mostly there.

What is your take on Jesus making the bird out of clay and giving it life? I remember reading I believe it was yours stating that the leprosy and such that Jesus was claimed to make was metaphors relating to bringing them back onto the path of Truth and such, and not the literal take that the Muslims generally use. How can the bird be used?

Tair doesn't mean literally bird, it means something that hastens/flies, and was used for insects, birds, horses, soldiers. So why do they not say Jesus made a bug out of clay or a horse? Tair has multiple literal meanings, I have given them all here

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16837.msg169538#msg169538

Whats your take on cloning in regards to Quran where it states "between man and woman". I know this was brought up in that thread but I wasn't sure on your answer. Also, what about stem cell research where they claim that they can even make sperm out of any tissue from the human body?

What about it? The Qur'an doesn't forbid cloning in a direct sense since it is the way we can control nature and use it.