I'm still finding myself
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As salamu alaykum wr wb.
Respectfully.Welcome to the forum, i hope you will have enough patience in order to investigate The True Islam and i hope you will see that life is easier following Quran alone. Of course, you will run into problems as everyone else so i can tell you one thing about the tests in this life every time you get a harder test then the last one, it means that you have passed the last test, InshaAllah.
I am a Quran Alone Muslim since 2004 but i'm still researching, i'm still debating about salat, how many of them are there and stuff.
May The Almighty God, The Most Powerful guide you and protect you.
As salamu alaykum wr wb. -
As salamu alaykum wr wb.
Respectfully.Welcome to the forum, i hope you will have enough patience in order to investigate The True Islam and i hope you will see that life is easier following Quran alone. Of course, you will run into problems as everyone else so i can tell you one thing about the tests in this life every time you get a harder test then the last one, it means that you have passed the last test, InshaAllah.
I am a Quran Alone Muslim since 2004 but i'm still researching, i'm still debating about salat, how many of them are there and stuff.
May The Almighty God, The Most Powerful guide you and protect you.
As salamu alaykum wr wb.Peace, Alen...
Thanks for the welcome, and may God guide and protect you too. This forum has been a blessing in helping me expand my threshold of understanding and acceptance of different ideas. Since you brought up the salat, I read the articles on free-minds.org, namely 'What is Salat' by Layth (http//www.free-minds.org/articles/quranic/salat.htm), who presents only three mentioned times of the day for it
"And thou shall hold the contact-method at two edges during the day, and the near part of the night. The good deeds take away the bad. This is a reminder to those who remember." (11114 Free Minds Translation)
"And establish regular prayers at the two ends of the day and at the approaches of the night For those things, that are good remove those that are evil Be that the word of remembrance to those who remember (their Lord)" (11114 Yusuf Ali Translation)
Since you say you're still researching on this, perhaps you can help me Abdullah Yusuf Ali, in his commentary on this particular verse, says that the Arabic term used for 'approaches of the night' is a plural term in the language. Apparently, in Arabic, there are specific words for singular, double, and plural (therefore, at least three). So Yusuf Ali's explanation is that the two ends of the day are Dawn and Noon solat, and the 'approaches of the night' (now, at least three, according to the Arabic language) are the Afternoon, Dusk, and Night solat. He concludes as saying these are the canonical five daily prayers.
In the Free Minds article, this 'plural' term is mentioned, but the problem wasn't addressed properly. Furthermore, the whole wording in the Free Minds translation is different to indicate a single term '...and the near part of the night'. Surely a person who has done research on this verse has at least come upon Yusuf Ali's argument?
Can you kindly share your personal findings on this crucial subject?
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Salam Br Ali,
Hey don't leave us outside, what is tonggang tonggek!?
Peace sis Majidah
P.s I feel ashamed I have been married to a melayu man 16 years and still cannot speak the language. But now I'm divorced so it will not be easier -[
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SALAM BR ALAMAK,
OF COURSE WELCOME welcome
Peace sis Majidah
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Brother adley, thanks for the extra vocubulary ;D
Salam sis,
"tonggang tonggek" means , um,.. you know when you ride see-saw at a playground..? one side goes up while the other goes down? yeah, that's sort of the word's meaning.
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Salam sis Bubba,
Thanks for your input .
Sis Majidah
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Alamak, salaam,
The more you study and research on what's solat/solah, the more you will found out that it isn't the tonggang tonggek thing.
A.
Well, yeah, I have sorta been getting that idea (just a quick update, I'm way past halfway through the Quran...I'm trying to finish before Syawal, remember..). But it's tough to get rid of old habits, yknow. It feels so wrong to salat any other way. I've been so confused lately on the steps and things to say, being very careful in trying to worship God alone. But rest assured, I've been trying to be as sincere and as honest as I can, and I do realize that these steps don't really matter, just as long as I'm being true to the purpose and meaning of the salat.
But I think there's nothing wrong in performing salat the traditional way, for the sake of standardization. If some of you feel that salat steps can be personally interpreted, that's all fine when you're performing it alone, but when doing congregational salat, some sorta standard way must be in place. I still think that it's important, although yes, I've started to disagree with some of the recitations.
SALAM BR ALAMAK,
OF COURSE WELCOME welcome
Peace sis Majidah
Thanks!
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Peace.
Welcome to the forum.
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I can only tell you this always verify everything you see, read or hear. Always.
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Always rely on The Almighty God, The Most Powerful.
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Don't give up at the first problem. Satan can't touch you or hurt you or harm you, if you follow Quran alone.
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Think of the Paradise, if you stay with the Quran.
Peace.
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