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What I find disgusting in "Muslims"

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    unknownuser
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    Wa Salam dear brother,
    All praise be to Allah, the Benficent, the Merciful.

    I have to agree. Being in Iran recently, I found my cousin's reading Tafseer more than Quran. I was stupified as to why? Allah has said in the Quran that it is easy to read in your own tounge.

    I had never thought I'd find a group of people that understand "my kind", only my brother, mother, and my cousin. Alhamdullellah, I'm not alone .

    All praise and thanks due to Allah and Allah ALONE.

    Allahu Akbar!

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      Andya_Primanda
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      Peace bro Reza,

      A very spirited testimonial! Welcome to the forum.

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        adley
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        Salaam RezaTheBeliever,

        welcome

        Nice post!
        For a split second there, I thought you're someone I met yesterday.
        His name is also Reza and he is a brother in deen as well ;D

        =adley=

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          unknownuser
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          WaSalam Adley
          Thank you for the welcome.

          haha, that'd be pretty cool wouldn't it?

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            phoenix1
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            peace

            We can disagree. But we cannot hate.
            Just like sectarians don't have authority over the quran, we don't have authority over the quran either.
            Who's right? we will never have a certain answer to that question.

            The thing with shias and sunnis is that they think that they are the true muslims. The sunnis think that they follow the true islam, and it was the shias who created a sect. They don't believe that they are following a sect.
            The same's true for some people on this forum. They are following the true islam, but to the others, they are just another islamic sect.

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              unknownuser
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              Peace,

              True Islam is from God. And yes, only God knows all hearts and it is He who decides who he wants to guide, and make astray whoever He wants. True islam is the one explained through the Quran since it has authority from God. Of coz, it all comes down to..do you believe Quran is from God?

              I was going to say that God's way never change, but..brothers and sisters, what about another ayat that says something like.. some message He leaves out, and provide a better one? and, what about how Adam & Eve's children procreated..? ???

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                alamak
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                Peace Reza and everyone,

                Who? Again, who!? Who has authority over Allah? If you are created, then you are to obey your creator. We are all created and to Allah we will return, so who are we to follow? Some guy who came after Muhammad by 200+ years, or the word of Allah? If bukhari was here, I would pound his face. He is truly blind due to his weakness in faith and lack of belief in the Quran.

                I'm sure we all here understand your frustration, and you're just venting out your anger, I've absolutely no problem with that. But here's what I think I personally think that it's not valid for us to blame any one person (eg. Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Huraira etc). For instance, Bukhari started collecting the hadiths after the ban was lifted because there were a lot of untrue and insulting traditions attributed to Muhammad at that time. So, in order to protect Muhammad's respect and credibility, or so they thought at that point in time, a lift of the ban was necessary. Now I'm not supporting this act in any way, but in order to make a good argument, you have to analyze both sides of the situation. But this is besides the point I'm trying to make anyway, so...

                The problem with Islam right now is the whole culture of the religion. The teaching and preaching of it. The attitude towards non-Muslims, and everything non-Islam. This whole 'aura' and 'mind-set' of the Islamic world doesn't promote openness, doesn't encourage a critical attitude, and doesn't tolerate any form of questioning. It's very much a direct or indirect authoritarian rule over Muslim's minds. For us born into the religion, we've been taught that it's Islam or hell. And what is Islam? Pray five times a day, fast during Ramadhan, revere Muhammad in our salat, etc. We've never garnered the courage to ask 'why?' or 'how true is this?' because this was not only discouraged, it was strictly forbidden! Not only by our parents (who are the result of similar upbringing) but by religious teachers, imams, etc. If you don't follow what they say is true, you are automatically a kafeer and guaranteed hell.

                Traditional Islam is a religion of blind faith. I think it's safe to say that most Muslims never even properly read the Quran, simply because they think they already have knowledge of all the basics, from what they've been taught. Little do they know that most of what they know are superstitions, fairy tales, and blatant lies that were imposed on them by this culture of 'fear of questioning', and not only unauthorized, but downright warned against by the words of God Himself. This submission without knowledge is dangerous, and unfortunate, but you can't blame it on one or several specific persons. Muslims today are a result of a very succesful brainwash!

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                  Alen
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                  Salam.

                  I don't wanna badmouth anyone, believe me, but you should come to the Balcans, especially Slovenia and Bosnia, yeah, visit these two countries, talk to the muslims, spend some time with them, they're all sunnis and after 90 days of living with these people, go home and write what you saw, heard, experienced and lived.

                  You'll be surprised.

                  Peace.

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                    SwedenMajidah
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                    Salam,

                    Why surprised? What so special with muslims in balcan?

                    Peace Maria

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                      Alen
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                      Salam,
                      Why surprised? What so special with muslims in balcan?
                      Peace Maria

                      Salam.

                      Like i said i cannot bamouth them but i'd prefer if you could visit Slovenia or Bosnia and see it for yourself. What these people do here is ..... well, let me put it this way there is a valid reason why we have been waiting for the permission to build a 1. mosque in Slovenia for the past 35 years. Very good and smart reason.

                      Salam.

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                        SwedenMajidah
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                        salam,

                        Aha, so they cannot agree on anything and they are suspicious of one another, well that can be.

                        But I have always have that understandings that muslims in balcan are very secularized in their behaviour and practising their religion.

                        Therefore when the war was a fact people became confused and started to kill their neighbours who were of another faith even if that hadn't been a problem before.

                        Correct me if I'm wrong please!

                        Peace Sis Majidah

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                          Alen
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                          salam,
                          Aha, so they cannot agree on anything and they are suspicious of one another, well that can be.
                          But I have always have that understandings that muslims in balcan are very secularized in their behaviour and practising their religion.
                          Therefore when the war was a fact people became confused and started to kill their neighbours who were of another faith even if that hadn't been a problem before.
                          Correct me if I'm wrong please!
                          Peace Sis Majidah

                          Salam.

                          On the contrary, these sunnis here all agree on many things and sometimes they can be a little suspicious but that's not the real problem.

                          I don't know how secularized but i can tell you one thing suunis here are not practising their religion and that is the reason we're not getting a mosque any time soon, my friend.

                          Serbs killed Bosniacs because they planned to exterminate them sicne the year 1945 and they were waiting till they would gain respect and trust of those muslims and then in 1992 Serbs ann Croats finally realized it is time split Bosnia and kill all non-Croats and all non-Serbs. Yes, divide and conquer and kill and rape and plunder and steal and destroy and just ruin whatever is islamic.

                          Problem also came when Serbs killed Croats so there were like three wars in Bosnia Serbs killing Bosniacs, Serbs killing Croats, Croats killing Bosniacs, Croats killing Serbs and Bosniacs were dying on the double.

                          There were always problem, dear sister, always, since 1945 muslims (Bosniacs) in Bosnia were oppressed but no one said anything cuz everybody was rich and they all enjoyed the fake peace, because of the communism.

                          How were they oppressed?

                          Bosniacs were not allowed to say they are muslims, not allowed to pray in public, could not go to friday prayers, could not say salam alaykum on the street, the word Bosniac was prohibited and not recognised a sa word, women had to remove the scarfs, children in school could not get good grades if they had "muslim" names, same goes for the people at work, they could not get big salary if they were named Abdullah or Bahrija, that's why my parents had to give me this name so i can not be recognised as a muslim. Same goes for my real brother.

                          The fact remainswe will not get a mosque until we change.

                          Sorry for being too long.

                          Peace.

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                            unknownuser
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                            I do not want to come across as boastfull of my faith, who knows, tomarrow I might worship Satan, I can only put everything I've got into Allah and beg Him to guide me. May Allah guide us all on the right path and continue to show us to the way. May He have mercy on us for our mistakes and rewards us for our deeds and save us from the fires of hell.

                            peace bro
                            great post and beautifull words
                            may GOD be with u

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                              Haneen
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                              My husband seis if you are not sunni, thats mine you are shia! ;D Its like there is not another way how to follow islam.

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