Khimar? Where is the proof?
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And Simple,
These are your 'sheikhs'
Hi savage,
Credentials are not really as important as what a person is saying is it? And just because some people have said something it doesn't become accurate or common knowledge. If we all cared for credentials so much, we might as well become sunni's. Peace
I don?t know about anybody else but a label to me doesn?t mean anything but something like having qualifications recognized do mean a lot.
i.e -
Dip Hyp, Dip Psy, ISCH, MGHSC, NLP Practitioner, RMN, RGN, BA (Hons)
These are known as credentials ? I think so. -
Salaams Fahad,
No you are mistaken - I give credit to people for having such qualifications, and no they don?t become sheikhs.
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YUSUFALI They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).009.034
YUSUFALI O ye who believe! There are indeed many among the priests and anchorites, who in Falsehood devour the substance of men and hinder (them) from the way of Allah. And there are those who bury gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah announce unto them a most grievous penalty-?WHO IN FALSEHOOD DEVOUR THE SUBSTANCE OF MEN?
YOU?RE FRIEND ?THE SHEIKH? LISTEN TO HIS VIDEO THE very first thing he goes for is your money ?chanda/zakaat/fitra e.t.c?
Then he starts to give you more of what you have been taught all your life?
The usual routine ? sorry that is a normal thing of any religion feeding you the sh-t they feed you from childhood thus giving you the satisfaction of having achieved something thus giving you falsehood upon falsehood.
I thank the almighty for opening my eyes so today I am not a follower of anybody but decide for myself according to the God given reason.
But you on the other hand haven?t reached this post God help people like you-following blindly, ideologies programmed into you from childhood.
It?s the blindness Allah tells about ? and believe me only He may show us the light.
May Allah show you some of it?
God Bless.
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And you say all the previous revelations came in Arabic - have your head examined.
For proof ask ten people walking on any street and see the result not pagans though.
May Allah show you some of his light too.
Salaams Fahad,All.
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Salam Simple.
Salaams Fahad,
No you are mistaken - I give credit to people for having such qualifications,
What if a person acquires the qualifications from Al-Azhar to interpret the Quran, will you credit them and give them priority.
...and no they don?t become sheikhs.
And people with the name "Sheikh" become sheikhs?! Answer this, ok?
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YUSUFALI They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).009.034
YUSUFALI O ye who believe! There are indeed many among the priests and anchorites, who in Falsehood devour the substance of men and hinder (them) from the way of Allah. And there are those who bury gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah announce unto them a most grievous penalty-?WHO IN FALSEHOOD DEVOUR THE SUBSTANCE OF MEN?
Answer this Simple. How is Mr. Sheikh devouring the substance of men. Does he not spend it in the way of Allah? Answer this.
YOU?RE FRIEND ?THE SHEIKH? LISTEN TO HIS VIDEO THE very first thing he goes for is your money ?chanda/zakaat/fitra e.t.c?
Firstly, Simple, you can't even get a simple thing into head! "Sheikh" is his name, NOT his title!
Secondly, he is only taking a charity from their money because he is commanded to do so(9103). What do you say?
And how does he misuse the money, tell me. Don't you ignore these questions.
Then he starts to give you more of what you have been taught all your life?
How do you know what I have been taught all my life?
The usual routine ? sorry that is a normal thing of any religion feeding you the sh-t they feed you from childhood thus giving you the satisfaction of having achieved something thus giving you falsehood upon falsehood.
Sh-t?! You call that sh-t? Then what would you call your "God-given know how" and "analysis"?!
You yourself consider your "god-given know how and analysis" to be sh-t. That is why delete them as soon as you would wipe your butt.
I thank the almighty for opening my eyes
You had the doctor operate on them?
It?s the blindness Allah tells about ? and believe me only He may show us the light.
May Allah show you some of it?
Your need is greater than mine.
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I thank the almighty for opening my eyes so today I am not a follower of anybody but decide for myself according to the God given reason.
Lets see what you decide according to...
And you say all the previous revelations came in Arabic - have your head examined.
For proof ask ten people walking on any street and see the result not pagans though.
rotfl rotfl rotfl
So THIS is how you decide? THIS is your method of interpreting the Quran? You ask ANY TEN people WALKING on ANY STREET?! LOL! You ask them which meaning from your 'Quranic Dictionary' fits better in the verses?! LOL!
Some "God-given reason", huh?
Let me tell you an easier method, Simple Throw a dice.
May Allah show you some of his light too.
Like I said, your need is greater than mine, because you have been asking for light from ten randomly picked people "from any street".
Salaams Fahad,All.
Salam and thanks for the laugh.
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What if a person acquires the qualifications from Al-Azhar to interpret the Quran, will you credit them and give them priority.
You must be joking!
You are saying someone who has graduated from a priesthood ? surely Allah is against it.
They say follow them or be doomed ? Allah said don?t follow the money grabbers.
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YUSUFALI Then there came running, from the farthest part of the City, a man, saying, "O my people! Obey the messengers
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YUSUFALI "Obey those who ask no reward of you, and who have themselves received Guidance.Ya ayyuha allatheena amanooinna katheeran mina al-ahbari waalrruhbanilaya/kuloona amwala alnnasi bialbatiliwayasuddoona AAan sabeeli Allahi waallatheenayaknizoona alththahaba waalfiddatawala yunfiqoonaha fee sabeeli Allahifabashshirhum biAAathabin aleemin
O ye who believe! there are indeed many among the priests and anchorites, who in Falsehood devour the substance of men and hinder (them) from the way of Allah. And there are those who bury gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah announce unto them a most grievous penalty-
Answer this Simple. How is Mr. Sheikh devouring the substance of men. Does he not spend it in the way of Allah? Answer this.
Where do they get their money from for surviving/ living .
Firstly, Simple, you can't even get a simple thing into head! "Sheikh" is his name, NOT his title!
Name or a title ,it doesn?t matter a bit ? its their action/amal you need to look at.
Secondly, he is only taking a charity from their money because he is commanded to do so(9103). What do you say?
Check the ayah again its about the prophet not any sheikh, sorry.
And how does he misuse the money, tell me. Don't you ignore these questions.
They make businesses for their incomes to survive the easy taking the route. Feed people what they already believe and that is it.
How do you know what I have been taught all my life?
You aren?t analyzing the quran but authenticating what people believe already ? and even making the lingo Godly ? But all lingo?s are Godly that bring out the Godliness in us whether it is English or some other.
You yourself consider your "god-given know how and analysis" to be sh-t. That is why delete them as soon as you would wipe your butt.
At least I don?t leave it to be wiped by sheikhs like you do.
Thank you.
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You must be joking!
I am simply asking.
You are saying someone who has graduated from a priesthood ?
He would be "qualified. An "expert". He should get credit from you.
surely Allah is against it.
He is not against your NLP experts?
They say follow them or be doomed ? Allah said don?t follow the money grabbers.
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YUSUFALI Then there came running, from the farthest part of the City, a man, saying, "O my people! Obey the messengers
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YUSUFALI "Obey those who ask no reward of you, and who have themselves received Guidance.No money grabbing mentioned in this verse.
Ya ayyuha allatheena amanooinna katheeran mina al-ahbari waalrruhbanilaya/kuloona amwala alnnasi bialbatiliwayasuddoona AAan sabeeli Allahi waallatheenayaknizoona alththahaba waalfiddatawala yunfiqoonaha fee sabeeli Allahifabashshirhum biAAathabin aleemin
O ye who believe! there are indeed many among the priests and anchorites, who in Falsehood devour the substance of men and hinder (them) from the way of Allah. And there are those who bury gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah announce unto them a most grievous penalty-
The IIPC does spend in the way of Allah.
Where do they get their money from for surviving/ living .
They give part of the charities received to the needy.
Name or a title ,it doesn?t matter a bit ? its their action/amal you need to look at.
What are the actions of a sheikh?
Secondly, he is only taking a charity from their money because he is commanded to do so(9103). What do you say?
Check the ayah again its about the prophet not any sheikh, sorry.
You said "sheikh" again, LOL! You don't know the difference between title and name. You should start using some english dictionaries as well.
And the verse is about the messenger, so unlike you, we have a beautiful pattern in the messenger of Allah. So we should follow it. That is what Mr. Sheikh is trying to do.
They make businesses for their incomes to survive the easy taking the route.
No. They help the needy survive with it. One of their main objectives is "to provide assistance to the relatives, orphans, needy, poor who has migrated and restricted in the way of Allah".
You never know what you are talking about.
Feed people what they already believe and that is it.
Thats just what you do.
And why don't you refute his understanding if you are so confident.
You aren?t analyzing the quran but authenticating what people believe already ? and even making the lingo Godly ? But all lingo?s are Godly that bring out the Godliness in us whether it is English or some other.
Is that why you twice ran away from that "language" debate?
At least I don?t leave it to be wiped by sheikhs like you do.
Oh yeah, you've got ten people, randomly picked from any street, to wipe it for you, right?
Thank you.
You are most welcome.
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Salaams Fahad,
Honestly
the most authentic - stupidust argument i have ever come accross on free minds is your argument about your arabic.
Brother if you think you have it - then lets strt the ball rolling and we will see who will run and who proves what is what.
the language report.
you throw the ball - lets see your argument with a couple of your ayah's.
Here or on the language topic - your pick.
Thanks.
Salaams.
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Salaams Fahad,
Honestly
the most authentic - stupidust argument i have ever come accross on free minds is your argument about your arabic.
Brother if you think you have it - then lets strt the ball rolling and we will see who will run and who proves what is what.
the language report.
you throw the ball - lets see your argument with a couple of your ayah's.
Here or on the language topic - your pick.
Thanks.
Salaams.
Here http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=7068.msg106714#msg106714
And what else had you been doing so far on that thread?