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    Bigmo
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    By now you have certainly forgotten the five loaves that fed the five thousand, with twelve baskets left over, and the seven loaves that fed the four thousand and the plenty that remained. But I am not speaking to you about earthly food. No, I have come to warn you against feeding on the ideas and false teachings of those who market in religion.

    In vain such people worship me, teaching as doctrines what are merely the inventions of men. Preoccupied with their own superstitions, they have forgotten the commandments of God.

    Beware of false teachers who stand before you wearing sheep's clothing. Beneath their guise hides a ravenous wolf. They follow their true master, the evil one, and do what as he commands them. He was a murderer from the beginning, and never told the truth, because there was never truth in him. When he lies, he speaks in character, for he is a liar, and the father of lies.

    To those who set themselves up to be your judges I say, judgment upon you, false teachers. Hypocrites! You, who will never enter the kingdom of heaven, bar the very way to those who long to go in. You travel across land and sea to gain one proselyte; and when that person is won, you make them two times more the child of hell than you are yourselves. Do you not merit great damnation?

    You steal from the poor and the widows; and then, to conceal your true intentions, you make long pious prayers.

    You decree "The temple is unimportant. What is important is the treasury of the temple!"

    But which is greater the gold in the treasury, or the temple that sanctifies the gold?

    And you say "The altar is not important; but the gift that is upon it is important."

    You are both foolish and blind. Which is greater the gift on the altar, or the altar that sanctifies the gift?

    Whoever honours the altar honours it and all things upon it. And whoever honours the temple honours him who dwells within its walls. And they who honour heaven, honour the throne of God, and he who sits upon it.

    You make ceremonial offerings of even the herbs that grow at your front door. All the while, you have forgotten the weighty matters of the law judgment, mercy, and faith.

    Your vision extends not one inch in front of your face. Piously you strain a gnat from your wine, and proceed to swallow a camel. Self-righteously you clean the outside of your cup, while inside remains the grime of extortion. How blind can you be! First take care of what is concealed within. Only then will the outside be clean.

    False teachers! In your hypocrisy you are no better than whitewashed tombs, which might appear beautiful on the outside, but inside are full of death and decaying bones. You may impress people by your superficial demonstrations of virtue, but inside you are consumed with hypocrisy and have fallen short of the truth. How can you believe, who live only for your colleague's praise, never seeking the honor that comes from God alone?

    You build monuments to the prophets, and place flowers at the tombs of the righteous, and say "If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would never have allowed their innocent blood to be shed."

    Be witness to your own inconsistency! You are the descendents of those who killed the prophets, and have surpassed even their wicked acts. Snakes! Generation of vipers! How will you escape the condemnation of eternal judgment?

    Behold, in the days to come, I will send you prophets, and wise men, and teachers. Even these you will kill and crucify. Yes, even these you will persecute, and pursue to the ends of the earth.

    Such hypocrisy! Isaiah was right when he prophesied of you "They approach me with their mouths, and honour me with their lips; but their hearts are far from me."

    You justify yourselves before your congregations; but God knows the evil intentions of your hearts for that which is highly esteemed by man is repulsive in the sight of God.

    Take heed Many will come from the east and west, and enter joyfully the kingdom of heaven. But many who should have come in will be banished instead to the darkness outside. Be forewarned Unless your righteousness exceeds the pseudo-righteousness of the religious, you will not set foot inside the kingdom of heaven.

    The Power of Prayer

    Until now you have asked nothing in my name. Ask, and you will receive, and your joy will be full.

    Once a man appeared at his friend?s door after midnight. "Lend me three loaves of bread,? he called. ?I have visitors who have travelled far to see me, and my cupboards are bare."

    But his friend replied "Please don't disturb me now. The door is locked, and my children are asleep. I can't get up and help you."

    Here is a lesson. Though the man did not get up and provide the bread because of their friendship, he did eventually give in to his friend?s earnest pleading, and rose from his sleep to give him what he asked.

    Be so persistent in your requests to God. Ask, and it will be given to you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, those who seek find, and to those who knock, the door will be opened wide.

    In a certain town, there lived a hard-hearted judge, who neither feared God nor cared for his neighbour. In the same town there lived a widow, who pursued him for justice concerning a person who had harmed her. Time passed, and the judge persisted in ignoring her pleas, refusing to hear her case, until finally, one day, he said to himself

    "Though I do not fear God, nor concern myself with charity, I will see to it that this widow gets justice; for she wears me out with her constant appeals."

    Will not God, then, offer justice to his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he too ignore your earnest cry for help? I tell you this he will see that they who seek him receive justice, and quickly! And yet, the real question raised in this story is this When the Messiah returns, will he find many on the earth with such persevering faith?

    I do not mean that you should let your prayer fall into a pattern of mindless repetition. The unenlightened pray in this manner, imagining that they will be heard because of the great number of their prayers. Do not imitate them. Remember your heavenly Father knows what you need even before you ask.

    The prophet Isaiah has written "My house shall be called by all nations, a house of prayer."

    Pray then, to the Father who hears your most intimate prayers and rewards them openly; and whatever you ask the Father in my name, he will provide. If you live your life in me, and let my words live in you, you may ask what you wish and it will be given to you.

    Pray in this manner

    ?Our Father in heaven, may all the earth recognize that you are the one and holy God.
    May your kingdom dwell among us. May your purpose be accomplished on earth, as it is in heaven. Provide us with daily bread to sustain us, and forgive our falling short. Help us to forgive those who have wronged us. Keep us from wandering into faithlessness, and deliver us from the evil one. For to you belongs all power and glory, eternally. Let it be so."

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      pvb
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      cool!!

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        unknownuser
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        Salam Bigmo,

        A Good Reminder for those who are mindful. jedi

        Salam,
        Arnab

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          ardee
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          ?Our Father in heaven, may all the earth recognize that you are the one and holy God.
          May your kingdom dwell among us. May your purpose be accomplished on earth, as it is in heaven. Provide us with daily bread to sustain us, and forgive our falling short. Help us to forgive those who have wronged us. Keep us from wandering into faithlessness, and deliver us from the evil one. For to you belongs all power and glory, eternally. Let it be so."

          Our Father? God is a father? God is male?

          God is in a place, heaven?

          Where is heaven?

          Purpose accomplished in heaven? When? How? How was that verified?

          Deliver us from the evil one...Who...What?

          This is so fatalistic, unlike the Majestic Quran

          The Quran

          1. Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheemi

          By the Attributes of Allah, the Universal Force who has complete Authority, to
          whom we seek protection, providence and guidance, the Source of all that is which
          sustains the whole Universe so intelligent Life could emerge and could become
          conscious so it would realize it exists and all that it needs for living and development
          without ever asking for this gift. Who embraces the entire Universe in His fold,
          nourishing and taking care of all things for what they are meant to be, just as a
          mother's womb nourishes the embryo without any returns. The Constant Provider
          of those who strive and struggle for the providence of nourishment, protection and
          development. The Constant Provider for all stages of Universal Evolution for those
          who are most fit for further development.

          1. Alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameena

          All amazement and the resulting praise will be due to Allah, the Universal Force
          who has complete Authority, as He has given us the favor of Life and Freedom out
          of His own Choice. The Developer and Maintainer of the complete Creation, the
          Universes and all that they contain, and fosters these in their Development so they
          can reach its goal of Completion. The Determiner of the rules and Laws which will
          bring us into Perfection. The Sustainer of all Dimensions and the fabrics of Reality.

          1. alrrahmani alrraheemi

          The Source of all that is which sustains the whole Universe so intelligent Life could
          emerge and could become conscious so it would realize it exists and all that it needs
          for living and development without ever asking for this gift. Who embraces the
          entire Universe in His fold, nourishing and taking care of all things for what they
          are meant to be, just as a mother's womb nourishes the embryo without any returns.
          The Constant Provider of those who strive and struggle for the providence of
          nourishment, protection and development. The Constant Provider for all stages of
          Universal Evolution for those who are most fitted for further development.

          1. Maliki yawmi alddeeni

          He is the Absolute Owner of the Era when all creation shall have completed their
          journey of existence, evolution and action to the Ultimate Just outcome. And He is
          the Supreme Appointer of the Way of Life . The Divine Appointer and Executer of the Laws and Rules, which control the
          Realm of Existence in this period of Evolution. His Judging Law of Cause and Effect
          that shows the Outcome of our affairs and deeds rules this period of Evolution.

          1. Iyyaka naAAbudu wa-iyyaka nastaAAeenu

          We affirm to obey You (through the Quran which lays down your System 14,
          6112-116) and we ask You to help us (in our constant Evolution by keep providing
          unending possibilities-11 Attribute of Raheem).

          1. Ihdina alssirata almustaqeema

          Guide us (through science, revelation and natural moral) to the Straight Path that will bring (all of Mankind) to its right Objective that leads us to real success as individuals and nations, as we rule with Justice and Truth in all situations so we preserve our position (within the Evolution of the Universe.)

          1. Sirata allatheena anAAamta AAalayhim ghayri almaghdoobi AAalayhim wala
            alddalleena

          The Path of those upon whom You bestow the blissful benefits (deriving from
          conscious obedience to Your Commands 6115, and thus becomes the one who guide Mankind, 3110). And save us from not following your guidance as revealed in nature and revelation as then we become)those who earn the Wrath of Consequences (going against the Laws of the Universe), nor of those who deviate from the Road (by having a wrong perception on Reality.)

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            Our Father? God is a father? God is male?

            God is in a place, heaven?

            Where is heaven?

            Purpose accomplished in heaven? When? How? How was that verified?

            Deliver us from the evil one...Who...What?

            This is so fatalistic, unlike the Majestic Quran

            The Quran

            1. Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheemi

            By the Attributes of Allah, the Universal Force who has complete Authority, to
            whom we seek protection, providence and guidance, the Source of all that is which
            sustains the whole Universe so intelligent Life could emerge and could become
            conscious so it would realize it exists and all that it needs for living and development
            without ever asking for this gift. Who embraces the entire Universe in His fold,
            nourishing and taking care of all things for what they are meant to be, just as a
            mother's womb nourishes the embryo without any returns. The Constant Provider
            of those who strive and struggle for the providence of nourishment, protection and
            development. The Constant Provider for all stages of Universal Evolution for those
            who are most fit for further development.

            1. Alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameena

            All amazement and the resulting praise will be due to Allah, the Universal Force
            who has complete Authority, as He has given us the favor of Life and Freedom out
            of His own Choice. The Developer and Maintainer of the complete Creation, the
            Universes and all that they contain, and fosters these in their Development so they
            can reach its goal of Completion. The Determiner of the rules and Laws which will
            bring us into Perfection. The Sustainer of all Dimensions and the fabrics of Reality.

            1. alrrahmani alrraheemi

            The Source of all that is which sustains the whole Universe so intelligent Life could
            emerge and could become conscious so it would realize it exists and all that it needs
            for living and development without ever asking for this gift. Who embraces the
            entire Universe in His fold, nourishing and taking care of all things for what they
            are meant to be, just as a mother's womb nourishes the embryo without any returns.
            The Constant Provider of those who strive and struggle for the providence of
            nourishment, protection and development. The Constant Provider for all stages of
            Universal Evolution for those who are most fitted for further development.

            1. Maliki yawmi alddeeni

            He is the Absolute Owner of the Era when all creation shall have completed their
            journey of existence, evolution and action to the Ultimate Just outcome. And He is
            the Supreme Appointer of the Way of Life . The Divine Appointer and Executer of the Laws and Rules, which control the
            Realm of Existence in this period of Evolution. His Judging Law of Cause and Effect
            that shows the Outcome of our affairs and deeds rules this period of Evolution.

            1. Iyyaka naAAbudu wa-iyyaka nastaAAeenu

            We affirm to obey You (through the Quran which lays down your System 14,
            6112-116) and we ask You to help us (in our constant Evolution by keep providing
            unending possibilities-11 Attribute of Raheem).

            1. Ihdina alssirata almustaqeema

            Guide us (through science, revelation and natural moral) to the Straight Path that will bring (all of Mankind) to its right Objective that leads us to real success as individuals and nations, as we rule with Justice and Truth in all situations so we preserve our position (within the Evolution of the Universe.)

            1. Sirata allatheena anAAamta AAalayhim ghayri almaghdoobi AAalayhim wala
              alddalleena

            The Path of those upon whom You bestow the blissful benefits (deriving from
            conscious obedience to Your Commands 6115, and thus becomes the one who guide Mankind, 3110). And save us from not following your guidance as revealed in nature and revelation as then we become)those who earn the Wrath of Consequences (going against the Laws of the Universe), nor of those who deviate from the Road (by having a wrong perception on Reality.)

            Salam,

            If you don't understand analogies and parables there is not a word I can say to you that you will not refute.

            226

            Surely Allah is not ashamed to set forth any parable-- (that of) a gnat or any thing above that; then as for those who believe, they know that it is the truth from their Lord, and as for those who disbelieve, they say What is it that Allah means by this parable He causes many to err by it and many He leads aright by it! but He does not cause to err by it (any) except the transgressors

            Salam,
            Arnab

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              Jafar
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              Our Father? God is a father? God is male?

              God is in a place, heaven?

              Where is heaven?

              Purpose accomplished in heaven? When? How? How was that verified?

              You're quoting Jesus's prayer?
              (Which has been mistranslated to english)

              Here's in Aramaic.

              Abwoon d'bwashmaya,
              Nethqadash shmakh,
              Teytey malkuthakh.
              Nehwey tzevyanach aykanna d'bwashmaya aph b'arha.
              Hawvlan lachma d'sunqanan yaomana.
              Washboqlan khaubayn (wakhtahayn)
              aykana daph khnan shbwoqan l'khayyabayn.
              Wela tahlan l'nesyuna.
              Ela patzan min bisha.
              Metol dilakhie malkutha wahayla wateshbukhta l'ahlam

              Abwoon = translated as 'father' in english.
              "Our Father" / "Abwoon" is symbolism it actually refer to "Our Source", God is The Father Of All Things / Source Of All Things.

              d'bwashmaya = Translated as "In Heaven".
              Maya actually means "Universe", thus the phrase actually refer to "God Who Is All Around Us and Within Us as well".

              If you compare "Jesus's Prayer" and "The Openings", both are actually possess the same structure / theme

              1. Praises
              2. Promises / Commandment
              3. Request / Wishes

              I love both Jesus's prayer and the openings.
              It's a great and concise prayer, generic enough to covers every needs.
              And it state clearly of our commandment as well.

              Salam

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                belH
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                You're quoting Jesus's prayer?
                (Which has been mistranslated to english)

                Here's in Aramaic.

                Abwoon d'bwashmaya,
                Nethqadash shmakh,
                Teytey malkuthakh.
                Nehwey tzevyanach aykanna d'bwashmaya aph b'arha.
                Hawvlan lachma d'sunqanan yaomana.
                Washboqlan khaubayn (wakhtahayn)
                aykana daph khnan shbwoqan l'khayyabayn.
                Wela tahlan l'nesyuna.
                Ela patzan min bisha.
                Metol dilakhie malkutha wahayla wateshbukhta l'ahlam

                Abwoon = translated as 'father' in english.
                "Our Father" / "Abwoon" is symbolism it actually refer to "Our Source", God is The Father Of All Things / Source Of All Things.

                d'bwashmaya = Translated as "In Heaven".
                Maya actually means "Universe", thus the phrase actually refer to "God Who Is All Around Us and Within Us as well".

                If you compare "Jesus's Prayer" and "The Openings", both are actually possess the same structure / theme

                1. Praises
                2. Promises / Commandment
                3. Request / Wishes

                I love both Jesus's prayer and the openings.
                It's a great and concise prayer, generic enough to covers every needs.
                And it state clearly of our commandment as well.

                Salam

                Thank you and may God Bless.

                Jesus prayer is no different than Moses, Mohamed nor any other prophet.
                May God Lead us all to their Path--the Straight Path that they tought to us.
                hail

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                  Jafar
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                  I put more thought on this and I recalled of one of the verse about praying (du'a) in the Quran.

                  AMAZINGLY Jesus's prayer structure is PERFECTLY ALIGNED with Quran

                  Quran 1010
                  Their prayer (du'a) shall (begin) with Subhannaka Allahumma (Holy / Sanctified God)
                  and their greeting shall be Salam (Peace)
                  and they end their praeyer (du'a) with Alhamdu Lillahi Rabbi Al-Alamien (Glory Be To God, Lords of All Worlds)

                  Begins With
                  Recommended By Quran
                  Subhannaka Allahumma (Holy / Sanctified God)
                  Jesus's Prayer
                  Our Father, which art in heaven,
                  Holy (Aramaic Qadosh) be thy name (AramaicShemakh)

                  Ends With
                  Recommended By Quran
                  Alhamdu Lillahi Rabbi Al-Alamien (Glory Be To God, Lords of All Worlds)
                  Jesus's Prayer
                  For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and THE GLORY, for ever and ever

                  "That is, then, is how you should pray"
                  ~Jesus, Matt 69

                  Yo Jesus!.. I agree with ya...
                  This Jesus guy is certainly one cool dude!.. ;D

                  Salam

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