Rahmadan- guide to fasting in Rahmadan
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Peace to all,
pvb, please stop Laughing Out Loud at all our comments, you sound like your making fun of muslims that fast for 30 days, it isnt fast for 12 and eat for 12, you dont eat or drink at all from sunrise to sunset, then you can eat in moderation, but the majority of the time when the sun is down you are sleeping, so your body is surviving on very little food and drink for a whole month, indeed it is very hard and requires alot of self-control and discipline. So have you tried it yet, are you going to, if not , why not. Beleive me, the christian fasting of lent for fourty days does not even compare, they usually pick one think to give up like " i wont drink pop for fourty days" they then continually indulge themselves in whatever else they want as normal, iyou dont even know that your fasting, give me a break, or, I mean, LOL
Kurt
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2184 .........And concerning those who cannot endure the fast; you redeem by feeding any of the poorest of the poor ; and whoever gives alms volutarily then it is best for him; and it is best that you fast, if you are able.
eat tempt eat Praise be to Allah. eat yay eat
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Peace,
Yes, you are right.
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But the Torah say that anyone who has had sex or a flow of semen must take a bath, but they still remain unclean until evening...
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But the Torah say that anyone who has had sex or a flow of semen must take a bath, but they still remain unclean until evening...
peace
They say what they say, but your Lord says
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O ye who believe! Approach not prayers with a mind befogged, until ye can understand all that ye say, nor in a state of ceremonial impurity (except when travelling on the road), until after washing your whole body if ye are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from offices of nature, or ye have been in contact with women, and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand or earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands. For Allah doth blot out sins and forgive again and again. (4-43)Do not forget that humans have their own logic that most of the time defers from what God's want.
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Ending the debate in the truth is what matters;
The Truth is Month = Shahar
The Truth is Rammadan = the month when Moslem Fast.
The Truth is Scorching Moon does not happen in Summer time as Ayman Said nor in any other spacific time; morover Scorching Moon does not happen every year.
The Truth is Moslems should use the Moon Stages to Calculate the period of Month.
The Truth is "Witnessing " can be done by Sighting or by Hearing.
The Truth is Blind people can Fast as other Moslems.If the above is not The Truth from our Lord, what else can it be.
I worship The God who Makes his Message very Clear to every human to understand hail
Mr. bilal there are twelve moon can you please tell us witch moon is Ramadan moon or you are blindly following the calendar made by traditionalist after the death of the prophet why the prophet did not made one.
and if that calendar is correct then why Muslims are fighting every year in pak in every city the Ramadan & Eid starts on three different dates
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Ending the debate in the truth is what matters;
The Truth is Month = Shahar
The Truth is Rammadan = the month when Moslem Fast.
The Truth is Scorching Moon does not happen in Summer time as Ayman Said nor in any other spacific time; morover Scorching Moon does not happen every year.
The Truth is Moslems should use the Moon Stages to Calculate the period of Month.
The Truth is "Witnessing " can be done by Sighting or by Hearing.
The Truth is Blind people can Fast as other Moslems.If the above is not The Truth from our Lord, what else can it be.
I worship The God who Makes his Message very Clear to every human to understand hail
Mr. bilal there are twelve moon can you please tell us witch moon is Ramadan moon or you are blindly following the calendar made by traditionalist after the death of the prophet why the prophet did not made one.
and if that calendar is correct then why Muslims are fighting every year in pak in every city the Ramadan & Eid starts on three different dates
peacePeace;
Every word I wrote in the post you quoted is Truth; I supported each with maney verses; Now, Do You Reject them as Truth or not?
Because if you do you are disblieving Quranic verses?
Rammadan was never in Summer time as Ayman says?
Please read thisPeace all,
Another point I would like to share with you; The following is a Quotion from Ayman 4 years ago
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Sister, you ignore that you are starting to count 4 "periods" from "ramadan", so according to you the hunting restriction is early fall-winter. Where I am in the Northern Hemisphere, fall is deer hunting season because that is when they are the most plentiful. Hence, your preservation of land-game argument is not factual.
End QuoteAs you can note Rammadan is the begining of 4 restricted Months. Thus according to Ayman, if Rammadan Moon starts in June 15 (solistic Moon), then the end of the 4 restricted Months would be in about October 15. In this time according to Ayman would be Fall time.
Now let us explore the following
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A (declaration) of immunity from Allah and His Messenger to those of the pagans with whom ye have contracted mutual alliances. (1) Go ye, then for four months, backwards and forwards, (as ye will), throughout the land, but know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah (by your falsehood) but that Allah will cover with shame those who reject Him. (2) And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the pagans. If, then ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith. (3) (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those pagans with whom Ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided anyone against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term for Allah loveth the righteous. (4) But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (9-5)
As you can note the war would start after October 15--Fall Time and not in the heat of Summer time.
Now read the following, from the same Chapter
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Those who were left behind rejoiced in their inaction behind the back of the Messenger of Allah they hated to strive and fight with their goods and their persons, in the Cause of Allah they said "Go not forth in the heat. Say "The fire of Hell is fiercer in heat." If only they could understand! (9-81)
Now is the period after October 15 Hot or should be...Mild or Cold? Or Maybe it was Global Warming? confused
Peace
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Peace;
Every word I wrote in the post you quoted is Truth; I supported each with maney verses; Now, Do You Reject them as Truth or not?
Because if you do you are disblieving Quranic verses?
Rammadan was never in Summer time as Ayman says?
Please read thispeace
No one is rejecting the verses but the quischen is how we know which month is ramdn and wich are trhe sacred monthe with out following the the calendar made after the prphet daeth and wich is full of errors.
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No one is rejecting the verses but the quischen is how we know which month is ramdn and wich are trhe sacred monthe with out following the the calendar made after the prphet daeth and wich is full of errors.
Peace;
The Prophet had a Calender by which he calculated the time of Ramadan and Hajj and the restricted month.
Now is the Calender still exist? Yes, and it is. If someone wants to say otherwise, he should bring proof, otherwise we can not believe him.What Ayman has are proofs that are based on other books and not Quran; moreover, I and others showed very well-established verses that refute his non Quranic proofs.
Now, God gave you a Brain to reason, and a free well to choose.
Good Luck! and may God help you to reach the truth. -
Salaam belal
How did you arrive at this definite conclusion,Peace;
Rammadan was never in Summer time as Ayman says?and at this information?
The Prophet had a Calender by which he calculated the time of Ramadan and Hajj and the restricted month.
Now is the Calender still exist? Yes, and it is. If someone wants to say otherwise, he should bring proof, otherwise we can not believe him. -
Peace;
The Prophet had a Calender by which he calculated the time of Ramadan and Hajj and the restricted month.
Now is the Calender still exist? Yes, and it is. If someone wants to say otherwise, he should bring proof, otherwise we can not believe him.What Ayman has are proofs that are based on other books and not Quran; moreover, I and others showed very well-established verses that refute his non Quranic proofs.
Now, God gave you a Brain to reason, and a free well to choose.
Good Luck! and may God help you to reach the truth.
))Great news where is that calendar are the Muslim today following the same calendar can you prove it if you are true.
The traditionalist claims that the calendar was made by umar after the death of prophet.Since you are claiming that prophet had a calendar then you have to prove it. And where Quran says how to recognize the months by sighting moon according to you ?
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)Great news where is that calendar are the Muslim today following the same calendar can you prove it if you are true.
The traditionalist claims that the calendar was made by umar after the death of prophet.Ask your self a question, how did the prophet know the time for Hijj and Rammadan?
Since you are claiming that prophet had a calendar then you have to prove it.
My only proof is the Quran, when God was telling the prophet to Fast in Rammadan Month and make Hijj in the Restricted Months, and Fight the Koffar after the 4 restricted months. Now is it enough to assume that the Prophet knew when to do so; for me Yes; otherwise God would never had asked him to do it.
Now the prove is for you and Ayman to proof that the existed Calender is wrong, using the Quran, as we did when proving that some Hadiths are wrong (using the Quran)And where Quran says how to recognize the months by sighting moon according to you ?
hmmYes we are ordered to measuer the day (and week) by the Sun cycle, as the Quran says.
AgreeOK, Do you agree that
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It is He Who made the sun to be a shining glory and the moon to be a light, and measured out stages for it that ye might know the number of years and the calculation. No wise did Allah create this but in truth and righteousness. (Thus) doth He explain His Signs in detail, for those who understand. (5)
Thus, the Moon Stages was created for us to calculate the period of month (and year = 12 month)
Do you agree or not; STRAIGHT ANSWER
Now, if the above is true, how should we calculate?
Well, if we are calculating Moon Cycle, we should count the days from the begining of cycle untill the end.They ask thee concerning the crescents. Say they are but signs to mark fixed periods of time for men, and for pilgrimage. It is no virtue if ye enter your houses from the back; it is virtue if ye fear Allah. Enter houses through the proper doors and fear Allah that ye may prosper. (2-189)
What is the begining of the Moon Cycle is it the Waxing crescent or the wining crescent?
Well, I say the one that marks the begining of the Moon Cycle--the Waxing Crescent.DO you agree or not? Straight Answer?
Also, read what I posted for you 3 days ago.
Salaam belal
How did you arrive at this definite conclusion,
and at this information?Peace all,
Another point I would like to share with you; The following is a Quotion from Ayman 4 years ago
Begin Quote
Sister, you ignore that you are starting to count 4 "periods" from "ramadan", so according to you the hunting restriction is early fall-winter. Where I am in the Northern Hemisphere, fall is deer hunting season because that is when they are the most plentiful. Hence, your preservation of land-game argument is not factual.
End QuoteAs you can note Rammadan is the begining of 4 restricted Months. Thus according to Ayman, if Rammadan Moon starts in June 15 (solistic Moon), then the end of the 4 restricted Months would be in about October 15. In this time according to Ayman would be Fall time.
Now let us explore the following
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A (declaration) of immunity from Allah and His Messenger to those of the pagans with whom ye have contracted mutual alliances. (1) Go ye, then for four months, backwards and forwards, (as ye will), throughout the land, but know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah (by your falsehood) but that Allah will cover with shame those who reject Him. (2) And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the pagans. If, then ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith. (3) (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those pagans with whom Ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided anyone against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term for Allah loveth the righteous. (4) But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (9-5)
As you can note the war would start after October 15--Fall Time and not in the heat of Summer time.
Now read the following, from the same Chapter
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Those who were left behind rejoiced in their inaction behind the back of the Messenger of Allah they hated to strive and fight with their goods and their persons, in the Cause of Allah they said "Go not forth in the heat. Say "The fire of Hell is fiercer in heat." If only they could understand! (9-81)
Now is the period after October 15 Hot or should be...Mild or Cold? Or Maybe it was Global Warming?
Peace
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Ask your self a question, how did the prophet know the time for Hijj and Rammadan?
My only proof is the Quran, when God was telling the prophet to Fast in Rammadan Month and make Hijj in the Restricted Months, and Fight the Koffar after the 4 restricted months. Now is it enough to assume that the Prophet knew when to do so; for me Yes; otherwise God would never had asked him to do it.
Now the prove is for you and Ayman to proof that the existed Calender is wrong, using the Quran, as we did when proving that some Hadiths are wrong (using the Quran)Also, read what I posted for you 3 days ago.
Now really my brain kidneys stopped functioningfftopic