Number of wives?
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Maria salaam. The sooner we realise that most of history is false and cooked better off we are going to be in understanding the message. That is by learning the language.
In addition to post above, in Sura Furqan, this question of as if quran was revealed in bits and pieces or as whole is clearly answered.
The answer given is kazalika meaning=so is it, it is revealed at once, as one. Now tell me if history is false or words of my lord?
Badar
(The whole verse is translated as "2532 Those who are bent on denying the Truth ask, ?Why has not the Qur?an been revealed to him all at once?? But that has been so! For, in order to strengthen your heart We have already arranged it in the Right Order. And We have caused you to convey it to people in stages, step by step".
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Assalaam Aalaikum
He's referring to he "Night of Power' Laylati Al-Qadri, the point he is making is that the revelation ended all 'excesses' in regards to women, thats what Sura 33.37 is indicating.
We have indeed revealed this (Message) in the Night of Power.
Inna anzalnahu fee laylati alqadri
And what will explain to you what the night of power is?
The Night of Power is better than a thousand months.
Therein come down the angels and the Spirit / rooh by Allah's permission, on every order..... qada zaydun minha wataran zawwaj nakaha li-kaa
wa alaikum salam,
But I am sorry to say it but I cannot see what you see in that verse( 3337) God explain that believers can marry the wives of their adopted sons.
what does that have to do with marry one female?Maria
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Maria salaam. The sooner we realise that most of history is false and cooked better off we are going to be in understanding the message. That is by learning the language.
In addition to post above, in Sura Furqan, this question of as if quran was revealed in bits and pieces or as whole is clearly answered.
The answer given is kazalika meaning=so is it, it is revealed at once, as one. Now tell me if history is false or words of my lord?
Badar
(The whole verse is translated as "2532 Those who are bent on denying the Truth ask, ?Why has not the Qur?an been revealed to him all at once?? But that has been so! For, in order to strengthen your heart We have already arranged it in the Right Order. And We have caused you to convey it to people in stages, step by step".
Salam Br Badar,
Yes, you are right that knowing Arabic is important and helpful to study the Quran but don't forget that the will of knowing the truths are also a very good way of understanding what we read.
Yes, i can now understand this verse and step by step was used to taught the people ,not for the messenger himself, ok ok I see.
peace
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Dear friends, Salaam. Exalted Prophet only had one wife before prophethood was bestowed upon him. She died after he became prophet. Quran was downloaded in one night on to his heart/brain, during her life. The revelation indicates that he was prohibited from any further merriages. Do we think he would have acted against clear injunction of Quran?
Badar
prophet Mohammad pbuh had more than one wife because almost every occasion when the wives are being addressed, it is in plural. (Azwaj is being used Not zoaj)
siki
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Sis Maria, indeed sincerity of heart and mind is the prime prerequisite for understanding the book.
One thing should be clear that the exalted prophet could not and did not marry anybody after been bestowed with prophethood, as this would have been clear violation of the very message he was going to preach. I will try to explore from Alkitab if we can answer how many wifes he had?Badar
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By the way, I did NOT leave out any 'portions' of ayahs. I have been asking you for 2 weeks now address Sura 33.37. You have ignored that request.
By the way, you did. I quote you
Aw = wait UNTIL Malakat = you can take a wife Aymanukum = faithfully, feel trustworthy & secure in a marriage
I don't need to tell you to read carefully. You already know what you left out and why. Your interpretations will fall flat on the face if you don't leave out what you leave out. I don't need to address the complete verse to expose your distorted interpretations it, you do.
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I have been asking you for 2 weeks now address Sura 33.37. You have ignored that request.
Lets see
You translated portions of the ayah.
I countered with a different translation of the same portion and requested you to address the verses in their entirety.
You avoided my request and asked me to address the entire verses.
I requested you again, and its only fair, that you do it first.
You also avoided answering my questions(and other members' questions as well)
So its only fair that I ignore your requests.
Did I do anything wrong? Or did you do everything wrong?
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When you divorce women, and they fulfil the term of their ('Iddat), either take them back on equitable terms or set them free on equitable terms; but do not take them back to injure them, (or) to take undue advantage; if any one does that; He wrongs his own soul. Do not treat Allah's Signs as a jest / joke, but solemnly rehearse Allah's favours on you, and the fact that He sent down to you the Book and Wisdom, for your instruction. And fear Allah, and know that Allah is well acquainted with all things.
If you are implying that I take Allah's ayaat as jokes, let me clarify that it is not the ayaat that are laughable but your comments and interpretations which you can't even respond to when asked about.
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In fact, I host a room on www.paltalk.com 'Quran Says No Polygamy No Polygyny No Pimping'
Are you equating nikah with pimping here? If so, how is "pimping" one wife ok, and "pimping" more than one wife not ok?
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prophet Mohammad pbuh had more than one wife because almost every occasion when the wives are being addressed, it is in plural. (Azwaj is being used Not zoaj)
siki
Peace,
Yes, I have also notice that.
Maria
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wa alaikum salam,
But I am sorry to say it but I cannot see what you see in that verse( 3337) God explain that believers can marry the wives of their adopted sons.
what does that have to do with marry one female?Maria
Im sorry 'adopted son' is NOT in the arabic of that ayah. The translator is incorrect and misleading.
Al Mawrid (page 544) Da?ee (ain) / with alif maqsuwr meaning adopted son or child; Al-Maqsur is a fully declinable noun ending in a necessary alif. Reference al-Nahw al-Wafiy
The word is adAAiya-ihim Verb Form IV, which means take legal action against, institute legal proceedings against, pretense, allegation, litigation, prosecution, suit, lawsuit
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prophet Mohammad pbuh had more than one wife because almost every occasion when the wives are being addressed, it is in plural. (Azwaj is being used Not zoaj)
siki
O those who believe in the Prophet / Ya ayyuha alnnabiyyu ! We have made lawful to you thy wives / 'Azwjaka
Ya Nominative Case
?Ya? used to express feelings or affection towards someone or something when followed by a verbal noun or Nominative Case.
Language of the Holy Quran, page 400'Azwjaka from the root word Zaja ?to marry anyone to, couple anything with, pair, mingle; 'Azwjihim means pairs, spouses
The ayah is defining prohibitions as it relates to women, to everyone, including the Prophet. The ayah says nothing about 'Prophets Wives', in plurality.
Muhammed,as followed and adhered to the message and example of the previous prophets, the ayah is instructing the Prophet also NOT speaking about his wives.
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Both words Nisa and Awaj are not used for prophet's wife. Moreover, why does Lord need to address people individually or personally. The purpose of this book is to give general laws of guidance applicable for all times. So why he need to address wifes individually. Furthermore, this is coming from the Lord who is originator of every thing. How come an originator with all encompassing knowledge will act in a reactive manner. The laws are same for ever.
Badar
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Im sorry 'adopted son' is NOT in the arabic of that ayah. The translator is incorrect and misleading.
Al Mawrid (page 544) Da?ee (ain) / with alif maqsuwr meaning adopted son or child; Al-Maqsur is a fully declinable noun ending in a necessary alif. Reference al-Nahw al-Wafiy
The word is adAAiya-ihim Verb Form IV, which means take legal action against, institute legal proceedings against, pretense, allegation, litigation, prosecution, suit, lawsuit
Peace,
I have checked in Quran the Arabic part(I can read some) and I have found all those words you claim was there in verse 3337 but I cannot right now agree if you have translate them correctly.
Maria
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Both words Nisa and Awaj are not used for prophet's wife. Moreover, why does Lord need to address people individually or personally. The purpose of this book is to give general laws of guidance applicable for all times. So why he need to address wifes individually. Furthermore, this is coming from the Lord who is originator of every thing. How come an originator with all encompassing knowledge will act in a reactive manner. The laws are same for ever.
Badar
Excellent point Badar....
We have not instructed the (Prophet) in Poetry, NOR IS IT MEANT FOR HIM. this is no less than a Message and a Qur'an making things clear.
That it may give admonition to any (who are) alive / hayyan, and that the charge may be proved against those who reject (Truth).
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Both words Nisa and Awaj are not used for prophet's wife. Moreover, why does Lord need to address people individually or personally. The purpose of this book is to give general laws of guidance applicable for all times. So why he need to address wifes individually. Furthermore, this is coming from the Lord who is originator of every thing. How come an originator with all encompassing knowledge will act in a reactive manner. The laws are same for ever.
Badar
Read Quran in context...
3328-32 You, you the prophet, say to your wives (li-azwajika) "If you were wanting the life the present/worldly life and its decoration/beauty, so come, I make you enjoy, I free you, divorce/freeing gracefully (peaceful/quiet)." And if you were wanting God and His messenger, and the end's (other life's) house/home, so then God prepared to the good doers from you a great reward. You, the prophet's women/wives (nisaa), who commits from you with an evident atrocious deed, the punishment be doubled for her two doubles, and that is on God easy/little. And who from you obeys humbly to God and His messenger and does righteous deeds, We give her reward twice, and We prepared for her an generous provision. You, the prophet's women/wives (nisaa), you are not as anyone from the women (alnnisa). If you keep your duty, then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire, but speak in an honorable manner.
3353 You, you those who believe, do not enter the prophet's houses except that (it) be permitted to you, not waiting to (for) food at it, and but if you were invited so enter, so if you ate so spread out (disperse), and not seeing (expecting) to an speech (conversation), that, that was harming mildly the prophet, so he feels shy from you, and God does not shame from the truth, and if you asked them (for) belongings, so ask them from behind a partition, that is purer to your hearts/minds and their hearts/minds, and (it) was not for you that you harm mildly God's messenger, and nor that you marry his wives (azwajahu) from after him ever, that truly that was at God great.
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@Nun
Im sorry we are beyond the references of english translations.
ya ayyuha annabiyyu does NOT mean 'O Prophet, You O' Prophet'
Ya Nominative Case
?Ya? used to express feelings or affection towards someone or something when followed by a verbal noun or Nominative Case. ; Language of the Holy Quran, page 400
Why cant you accept this?
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Both words Nisa and Awaj are not used for prophet's wife. Moreover, why does Lord need to address people individually or personally. The purpose of this book is to give general laws of guidance applicable for all times. So why he need to address wifes individually. Furthermore, this is coming from the Lord who is originator of every thing. How come an originator with all encompassing knowledge will act in a reactive manner. The laws are same for ever.
Badar
Kindly, at least bother to read the BOOK, before you type in such sweeping statements. Here is where God thought it be appropriate to adress prophet's wives.
33-59 O Prophet! say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments; this will be more proper, that they may be known, and thus they will not be given trouble; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
siki