Number of wives?
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Salamun alaikum,
Try to find out what is a "legal exception/exemption".
General Rule Exception
Forbidden to eat -> Can eat flesh of swine
flesh of swine (Emergency)
(2173) (2173)Cannot kill -> Can kill
a person (War)
(22.39)One wife -> Multiple wives
(3350) (orphans)
(43)and so on..
If fear of unjust to wives, Allah command for one wife, i.e. the reinstatement of the general rule in (3350), and even in the situation for the benefit of an orphan. One wife.
Peace brother.
I am differing only to remain precise. In legal parlance, a command verb places obligation upon the subject. He has to do it.
Law provides saving clauses for meeting exigencies of situation or instances of impracticability in obeying the prescribed provision of law.
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Two sentences are independent clauses; these are compounded by a conjunction waw. Independent since the verb is repeated.
The first sentence needs a careful parsing. "Two hearts" is not there; instead it is a prepositional phrase with Min "something emanating from two hearts" and then is adjectival description for the dual noun by a prepositional phrase coupled with possessive phrase. The object of verb is elided.
The discourse is about not accepting the word of the Non-Believers and Muna'fi'qeen Imposter believers.
Now one has to research as to what is the relationship of uttering a word-expression with the heart and chest.
When next wives are mentioned the pronoun for men is again plural.
Peace,
To quote Israfeel
"Allah has not made for any man two hearts in his (one) body nor has He made your wives whom ye divorce by Zihar your mothers (334)
The word 'man' (Rajul) is singular in this Ayah. That destroys your argument."
To translate Mazhar's English into English "any man" 33/4 denotes "all men" (plural)
God bless
peace
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Peace,
To quote Israfeel
"Allah has not made for any man two hearts in his (one) body nor has He made your wives whom ye divorce by Zihar your mothers (334)
The word 'man' (Rajul) is singular in this Ayah. That destroys your argument."
To translate Mazhar's English into English "any man" 33/4 denotes "all men" (plural) )
God bless
peace
Are you that poor in English too?
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Peace Mazhar,
Did I understand you correctly yes/no?
Two sentences are independent clauses; these are compounded by a conjunction waw. Independent since the verb is repeated.
The first sentence needs a careful parsing. "Two hearts" is not there; instead it is a prepositional phrase with Min "something emanating from two hearts" and then is adjectival description for the dual noun by a prepositional phrase coupled with possessive phrase. The object of verb is elided.
The discourse is about not accepting the word of the Non-Believers and Muna'fi'qeen Imposter believers.
Now one has to research as to what is the relationship of uttering a word-expression with the heart and chest.
When next wives are mentioned the pronoun for men is again plural.
God bless
peace
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Nice to see the same old Hawky! How you doin' me old mucker! Long time dude! Way too long! jedi
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Number of wives?
This thread has got to number 531 posts! That is more than Soloman had as wives and concubines added together according to a certain source. By "certain source" I do not mean it is certain!!!And here is me having a complicated life with just one? And Yes,she will also say the same.
And to think there will be "72" waiting for you up there? According to another source.
Help!!! I do not want to go up there.
GOD bless you all.
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Scary people have actually answered anything else instead of "Yes 1".
Be well
Qarael Amenuel -
Unbelievable!!!!
Hard to believe people, the same people are still arguing about the same topic for almost TEN YEARS!
This argument was done when the Quran was revealed.....
sheesh, wow
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The case of leaving more than one widow in the ayas about inheritance is not considered. ?Any explanation? ?And what to do in case of more than one widow?
peace, math is simple like multiple sons
e.g. two spouses (non sisters), two sons412 so if be for you offspring so to them the eight
1/8 two spouses (1/16 each)
7/8 two sons (7/16 each)Unbelievable!!!!
Hard to believe people, the same people are still arguing about the same topic for almost TEN YEARS!
This argument was done when the Quran was revealed.....
sheesh, wow
peace, explain "in context" this part?
423 ... and that thou cohabit ye of between the sisters two except what hence befell indeed the god be forgiver of merciful of 424 wal-muhsanatu/and those who fortify (do not have sex outside marriage) from the womenfolk except ma/what malakat/control aymanukum/right hands yours
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Salamun alaikum,
Try to find out what is a "legal exception/exemption".
General Rule Exception
Forbidden to eat -> Can eat flesh of swine
flesh of swine (Emergency)
(2173) (2173)Cannot kill -> Can kill
a person (War)
(22.39)One wife -> Multiple wives
(3350) (orphans)
(43)and so on..
Terrible comparison. Eating pork and killing a person/existence is "haram"/inviolable/forbidden - and one can only do these in certain conditions. Marrying more than one wife is nowhere stated as being inviolable/forbidden. In fact it is talked about as something that happens, e.g. 423.
Also, the exception in 3350 that does not apply to al mu'mineen is if a mu'minatan woman gave herself to the prophet - by forfeiting the dowry - the prophet may marry her without a dowry, if he so wishes. That is all. Notice that only "mu'minatan woman who gives herself to the prophet" - i.e. without a dowry - has a "wa" and the other categories of people do not. Then right after that it says that this is not for al mu'mineen.
The exception that prevents polygamy is given directly in 43, namely if you men have reason to fear that you might not be able to treat them with equal fairness, then one or "ma malakat aymanakum."
It is also stated in Sura (4129)
"..you will never be able to be equal between wives, even if you should strive.." (4129)
Basically it means it will never be just to marry more than one and it is against Islam, UNLESS it can bring justice to the orphan and wives (lesser). It will bring more justice if they are able to benefit the orphan and at the same time, are able to be equal between their wives. It is only in this situation Allah made it lawful to marry more than one woman.
Peace.
Common distortion, short-sightedness and twisting of the almighty god's words to appease certain "shayateen" - rebellious desires and people - in this case feminists. It is noteworthy that those who argue about plural forms used to somehow discredit polygamy (earlier in this thread) do not step in here. Let us read in context
4128 If one woman has experienced from her one husband ill-treatment/uprising or desertion, then it is not undignified for the two to reconcile between themselves; and reconciliation is better. (Greed is ever-present in human consciousness. If you do good and are prudent, then the god is expert over what you do.)
Clearly this is about being unfair to a wife, not about discouraging polygamy!
4129 (You (male plural) will not be able to be fair regarding the women even if you make every effort.) So do not sway (male plural) too greatly and leave her as one hanging in a void. If you reconcile and are prudent... god is forgiver, mercy-giver.
People fail to realize that asides are used in the reading. The clause "you (male plural) will not be able to be fair regarding the women even if you make every effort" is an aside and a fact given by the god, while "so do not sway too greatly and leave her as one hanging in a void. If you reconcile and are prudent... god is forgiver, mercy-giver." is a continuation of the problem and reconciliation in 4128. "Do not sway" is in male plural form, showing that this - as are all commandments regarding relations between men and women - is addressed to men in general when dealing with one/each wife.
Together, in context and understood properly, it reads as follows (with main clauses bolded for clarity)
If one woman has experienced from her husband ill-treatment/uprising or desertion, then it is not undignified for the two to reconcile between themselves; and reconciliation is better. (Greed is ever-present in human consciousness. If you do good and are prudent, then the god is expert over what you do. You men will not be able to be fair regarding the women even if you make every effort.) So do not sway too greatly and leave her as one hanging in a void. If you reconcile and are prudent... god is forgiver, mercy-giver.