Allah the moongod?
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Did you see any picture of a mosque with 'crescent on the top' - which were built during the first 400 years of Islam?
When Muslims conquered several European countries - they came in contact with their pagan symbols. Both crescent and star were symbols used by some Christian warlord during the Crusades, which eventually took their way into Muslim culture - just like Chrismas, Halloween, Mother Day, etc. In Islam their is no need of such symbols. Even these days, all mosques don't have crescent on their top - as every church has 'cross' and evey synagougue has 'star of Freemasonary'
The crescent moon and star is an internationally-recognized symbol of the faith of Islam. The symbol is featured on the flags of several Muslim countries, and is even part of the official emblem for the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies. The Christians have the cross, the Jews have the star of David, and the Muslims have the crescent moon
The crescent moon and star symbol actually pre-dates Islam by several thousand years. Information on the origins of the symbol are difficult to ascertain, but most sources agree that these ancient celestial symbols were in use by the peoples of Central Asia and Siberia in their worship of sun, moon, and sky gods. There are also reports that the crescent moon and star were used to represent the Carthaginian goddess Tanit or the Greek goddess Diana.
The city of Byzantium (later known as Constantinople and Istanbul) adopted the crescent moon as its symbol. According to some reports, they chose it in honor of the goddess Diana. Others indicate that it dates back to a battle in which the Romans defeated the Goths on the first day of a lunar month. In any event, the crescent moon was featured on the city's flag even before the birth of Christ.
The early Muslim community did not really have a symbol. During the time of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), Islamic armies and caravans flew simple solid-colored flags (generally black, green, or white) for identification purposes. In later generations, the Muslim leaders continued to use a simple black, white, or green flag with no markings, writing, or symbolism on it
It wasn't until the Ottoman Empire that the crescent moon and star became affiliated with the Muslim world. When the Turks conquered Constantinople (Istanbul) in 1453, they adopted the city's existing flag and symbol. Legend holds that the founder of the Ottoman Empire, Osman, had a dream in which the crescent moon stretched from one end of the earth to the other. Taking this as a good omen, he chose to keep the crescent and make it the symbol of his dynasty. There is speculation that the five points on the star represent the five pillars of Islam, but this is pure conjecture. The five points were not standard on the Ottoman flags, it is still not standard on flags used in the Muslim world today.
For hundreds of years, the Ottoman Empire ruled over the Muslim world. After centuries of battle with Christian Europe, it is understandable how the symbols of this empire became linked in people's minds with the faith of Islam as a whole.
Based on this history, many Muslims reject using the crescent moon as a symbol of Islam. The faith of Islam has historically had no symbol, and many refuse to accept what is essentially an ancient pagan icon. It is certainly not in uniform use among Muslims
peace
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Peace,
Well there seems to be many doubts that traditional islam is walking in the footstep of christianity because Allah was known already before Prophet Muhammad came and therefore no need to explain about who was Allah in Quran yes
The phrash used often among muslims are " Allahu Akbar" god the greatest and that means Muhammad tried to put Allah as the highest of the other Gods they worshipped.
Maria
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Peace,
Well there seems to be many doubts that traditional islam is walking in the footstep of christianity because Allah was known already before Prophet Muhammad came and therefore no need to explain about who was Allah in Quran yes
The phrash used often among muslims are " Allahu Akbar" god the greatest and that means Muhammad tried to put Allah as the highest of the other Gods they worshipped.
Maria
Other Gods you means Mullahs , sheikh, imamms hmm
Well that is Christian missionary propaganda to hide their symbol of cross on churches otherwise there is no truth in that.
voodoo
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Peace,
Yes, I know about christian propaganda I have been christian before in my younger age.
But there are something fishy about the religion of islam, why we have so difficult to read Quran and understand it correctly?
why all these wrong and misleading translations of Quran?Maria
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Peace,
Yes, I know about christian propaganda I have been christian before in my younger age.
But there are something fishy about the religion of islam, why we have so difficult to read Quran and understand it correctly?
why all these wrong and misleading translations of Quran?Maria
Does the followers other religions understand their holy books I means the original one?
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Does the followers other religions understand their holy books I means the original one?
How will I know, haven't investigate that, at least not yet.
And why is not Allah mentions himself as I in all verses? He and we are used much throughout Quran.
Maria
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How will I know, haven't investigate that, at least not yet.
And why is not Allah mentions himself as I in all verses? He and we are used much throughout Quran.
Maria
Peace
Whenever in the Qur?an Allah is mentioned in the third person there are always singular pronouns used, such as He, him (Huwa or Hu). Whenever Allah is spoken to in the second person there are also singular pronouns, such as Thou, Thine and Thee (Anta, Ka). However only in the first person some times the pronouns I, My or Mine (Ana, Iyaya, ya) are used and sometimes We, Us and Our (Nahnu, Na) are used.
This is a style of speech. Sometime the speaker says I and sometime says we. We also use that in our conversations. In the Qur?an you will see that often the first person singular such as I or My is used, when Allah speaks about His love, care and closeness and forgiveness for His servants. In a similar way the first person plural is often used when Allah speaks about His power, majesty, glory, great deeds or when He speaks about His anger and wrath for the sinners and criminals. (This is, of course, the general use. Sometime the reverse is also the case, depending on the context of the Surah.)
See for example the verses where the first person singular is used ?When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them) I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me let them also, with a will, listen to My call, and believe in Me that they may walk in the right way.? (al-Baqarah 2186) Or ?Verily, I am Allah there is no god but I so serve thou Me (only), and establish regular prayer for celebrating My praise.? (Taha 2014) or ?But, without doubt, I am (also) He that forgives again and again, to those who repent, believe, and do right, who, in fine, are ready to receive true guidance.? (Taha 2082) or see another example where both pronouns are used side by side, ?Before them the People of Noah rejected (their Messenger) they rejected Our servant, and said, ?Here is one possessed!? and he was driven out. Then he called on His Lord ?I am one overcome do Thou then help (me)!? So We opened the gates of heaven, with water pouring forth. And We caused the earth to gush forth with springs. So the waters met (and rose) to the extent decreed. But We bore him on an (Ark) made of broad planks and caulked with palm-fiber She floats under Our eyes (and care) a recompense to one who had been rejected (with scorn)! And We have left this as a Sign (for all time) then is there any that will receive admonition? But how (terrible) was My Penalty and My Warning? (al-Qamar 549-16)
jedi
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Peace,
See this http//uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GqhzE8cS7Qo&NR=1
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That translation is wrong ???
Why is it wrong then?
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Whos translationis that? >D
Peace,
I don't know which translation it is. But i know that he is a christian.
Maria
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http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13830.0
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http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13830.0
Peace Arnold,
Thanks for the link to your tread.
The reasons to why people mistakenly think Allah is a moongod must be that His name is similar with the so called goddess Allat followed by many of the people of Muhammad.My intention when i was posted this and some other links similar with this was to enlighten once again people that traditional islam absolutely isn't at all same as the true message Muhammad got from God.
Peace
Maria -
SwedenMajidah - I think it is that allah and the moon god Allah had the same generic name.
English speakers have GOD and gods, as Muslims have allahs and ALLAH - is that correct?
We know that our GOD's personnal name is YHWH. What personal name do Muslims use?
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Peace,
God have many names, not just one as you stated.
Maria
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Hi there,
Allah comes from Eloha. If we read the following verse God is called upon by the name ALLAHOMA ie. Elohim.
Qala AAeesa ibnu maryama ALLAHUMA rabbana anzil AAalayna ma-idatan mina alssama-itakoonu lana AAeedan li-awwalina waakhirinawaayatan minka waorzuqna waanta khayru alrraziqeena
Said Jesus the son of Mary "O Allah our Lord! Send us from heaven a table set (with viands), that there may be for us - for the first and the last of us - a solemn festival and a sign from thee; and provide for our sustenance, for thou art the best Sustainer (of our needs)."Yahweh, on the other hand may be very well the moon god of Egypt in the Book of the Dead and in Babylon. Irony isn't it?
http//yahwehism.com/yah-god.htmlPeace.
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Hi there,
Allah comes from Eloha. If we read the following verse God is called upon by the name ALLAHOMA ie. Elohim.
Qala AAeesa ibnu maryama ALLAHUMA rabbana anzil AAalayna ma-idatan mina alssama-itakoonu lana AAeedan li-awwalina waakhirinawaayatan minka waorzuqna waanta khayru alrraziqeena
Said Jesus the son of Mary "O Allah our Lord! Send us from heaven a table set (with viands), that there may be for us - for the first and the last of us - a solemn festival and a sign from thee; and provide for our sustenance, for thou art the best Sustainer (of our needs)."Yahweh, on the other hand may be very well the moon god of Egypt in the Book of the Dead and in Babylon. Irony isn't it?
http//yahwehism.com/yah-god.htmlPeace.
Salam,
I disagree that YHWH could be the moon god of Egypt.
The root is ha-wa-ha (hey-vav-hey).The only way someone could say that they were similar is if they did not know Hebrew.
Salam,
Arnab -
Allah comes from Eloha. If we read the following verse God is called upon by the name ALLAHOMA ie. Elohim.
Qala AAeesa ibnu maryama ALLAHUMA rabbana anzil AAalayna ma-idatan mina alssama-itakoonu lana AAeedan li-awwalina waakhirinawaayatan minka waorzuqna waanta khayru alrraziqeena
Peace,
The Hum- makes it Their's/everybody's God, just as the Ana- makes the Rabb ours, Our Lord/Rabb. Is simple Arabic grammar.