Peace, aspie from India here!
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Greetings and thanks, Mr Deen.
Asperger syndrome is just a name (named after Dr Hans Asperger), it is not at all a bad thing. We just happen to be excellent at what we are interested in, while we happen to be terrible at socialising (extreme shyness, inability to communicate in a group), we have little or no facial expressions (and most of us can't read facial expressions), we find making eye contact difficult, and are a little clumsy at times. We also have repetitive and restricted movements. Asperger syndrome is basically just a very very mild form of autism, although some disagree. Our brains, however, are a bit different (example check information regarding Einstein's brain) from neurotypicals (normal folks), hence, it is considered a disorder. There many other such small disorders, such as tourette syndrome (which again coexists with Asperger syndrome in most men who have it but rarely in women), it just implies tics and flaps when not in motion.
While most people with Kanner's autism desire a "cure", most Aspies (that's what we call ourselves) don't desire a cure. It's understandable, as Autism is extreme while Asperger's is extremely mild.
@saaretjie I like Yusuf Estes too! His story of converting to Islam was quite hilarious! Haven't seen any video of Dr Jefferey Lang though, as yet. )
Peace.
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I have one question to ask. Did you get diagnosed by a psychiatrist, or did you self diagnose using one of the tests on the internet? It's pretty common for some people, to get 'very likely aspie' scores when they are in their teens and 'very likely neurotypical' scores when they are adults.
Just my two cents.Salam,
Sarah
Greetings and peace be with you, my dear brothers and sisters in submission to the one and only creator;
I am a 19 yr old Indian Pathan. Allah (swt) has gifted me with Asperger syndrome, the same neurobiological condition (it is the mildest form of autism, so mild that it is nearly undiagnosable) many famous people such as Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, and Charles Darwin have been suspected to have. You can read more about it here. I am 19 years old. I am a former atheist who reverted to the Sunni religion a year ago. (I was born Muslim, however, many factors lead to me being an atheist, the main which is given below)
My areas of interest circle around religions, history, politics, demography, anthropology, political geography, linguistics, and anything related. I speak fluent English (my family is anglophone), moderate Urdu/Hindi, and basic conversational French. I love watching Anime and Wuxia.
I am currently doing a graduate course (2nd year) on Mass Communication, Political Science, and Linguistics (English, French, Conversational English - mainly regarding the study of the alphabet, dialects, grammatical structure, etc).
How I came to God alone is a simple story, and is the main reason I left the Hanafi madhab in the first place. Stoning. I refused to believe that it's a part of God's perfect religion. I searched and searched, and discovered about following God alone, which eventually led me to free minds.
It's been about two weeks since I've been following true Islam. Jazakallah khair to everyone, especially Mr Yuksel (his "19 questions for Muslim scholars" was what finally made my decision), for their contributions which led to my enlightenment.
Peace.
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Greetings and peace be with you Sarah,
I live next to a hospital for mental disorders. It's supposed to be Andhra Pradesh's (my state) #1 such hospital, and has many good psychologists. I don't trust psychiatrists or any allopathic doctor, I've always been given some terrible drugs by them. The most common prescriptions for Aspies and Auties are Risperdal and Cipralex, which have dozens of side effects, including PSSD. I'm not looking forward to getting impotent before I get married.
I am a big supporter of naturopathy (especially candida albicans research) & homeopathy.
Peace.
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Peace Mr. Khan,
I was not asking about that. It's just that, in recent years, a lot of people think it's cool to be an aspie when they actually don't suffer from Asperger's, they are just a bit socially awkward, but become well adjusted by the time they reach adulthood. That's why I was asking.
Thanks,
Sarah
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Greetings and peace, Sarah,
Yes, you are right. However, I can assure you, I am 100% aspie. ^^
There are also a group on facebook regarding some guys who hate Aspergers, and wish they were NT. Pro-cure guys.
Peace.
Peace,
There are always some people who cannot stand diffrencies, sad but true.
Maria
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Peace Maria,
Yes, you are right, my parents continue to have a dim view of Asperger's, refusing to believe "there's something wrong with me". I recall a study which asserted that 20-25% of the world's population has a neurobiological disorder, mental illness, or mental disorder, but most remain undiagnosed due to the most prevalent neurobiological disorders such as dyspraxia (mild) being difficult to identify, as in the case of Asperger syndrome. For instance, there are two guys in my class who have mild dyspraxia and never realised it... two others have ADHD and never got diagnosed. Another has OCD. I haven't noticed differences in anyone else, except that the three Tanzanian guys and two others are introverts (but have no signs of AS). There are 30 people in my class, however, 5 of them rarely show up.
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According to todays newspaper, in the past year, 1 our of 10 children born in my state were on the Autism spectrum.
Peace.
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Peace Khan
I am collecting stories of spiritual and intellectual conversion to monotheism... Inshallah we will later publish them. Can you please send me your story via my email address 19 at 19.org, in a little more detail, so that we can share it with many others?
Peace,
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It may very well be that aspergers syndrome is real. But be really sure that you have it, before any eventual medification. I have seen satan try and tag this on normal people. And autism, and syndromes in general. Their reasoning seems to be, if you are not wordly (in the religious sense) you are ill. (no religiousity allowed.)
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Peace Mr Deen,
From my knowledge, 20-25% of individuals have some kind of neurobiological disorder, over 95% are undiagnosed as they are mild. I have already mentioned this earlier. You might have a neurobiological disorder too, without realising it.
No medication works when it comes to Autism and Asperger syndrome. The most common medication is Risperdal (an anti-psychotic), which has terrible side effects like PSSD, and shows virtually no results except temporarily halt stimming. Instead, naturopathy has shown better results, the gluten-free casein-free diet is apparently very good. However, I have no desire to follow this diet as I love dairy products, especially cheese. P
The main things that make me stand out from people are
a) I am a complete introvert
b) I have a problem introducing myself to new people
c) I can't socialise in a group, only one on one with people I've known for a very long time, same awkwardness with new folks
d) I flap my fingers a lot
e) Lack of eye contact.That's it.
And yes, I have been diagnosed, as I mentioned earlier. Luckily, the psychologists at this place are very good, the most common misdiagnosis for AS are schizoid personality disorder and paranoid schizophrenia, which show a few similar symptoms (mainly lack of social activity), however, they are completely unrelated. Recent studies show a link between epilepsy and autism, however.
Peace.
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Peace.
Are you sure some of these things aren't fear of not being reckognized, of always having to function on a lower level, subsconsciously making you behave in a way, that will reject closeness to eventual persons, who are of "less intelligence" or really how I see it, disbelievers.
Do you feel the problem is as big with groups of believing people, and that posess intelligence, and/or with other groups?
Have you tried diciplined religious behaviour, and function well with that?
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Peace,
No Mr Deen, I don't consider myself more intelligent than other people. I just utilise my brain for my own unique interests.
When it comes to groups, the smaller the better. I guess it's because of the lack of being able to use body language or understand other people's body language that makes it hard for me to communicate.
And no, I don't seek to be different in any other way. It's better being different, n' est ce pas? ^^
Peace.
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Asperger syndrome has nothing to do with religion. It's a neurobiological disorder. I don't see any connection. However, from what I've noticed among other aspies, nearly all of us critically examine religion.
I usually don't bother about religion when in a group. I don't ask people about their religious background, since India's a very diverse country with many religions (Hinduism is an umbrella term for many Dharmaic faiths), not to mention hundreds of castes.
Anyway, like I said earlier, I was an atheist. I don't look down upon people with "lesser intelligence", I just believe that I'm good only at what I'm interested in. Nothing religious about it, but I do like studying religions.
Peace.
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I do apologise for the misunderstanding. We're uniquely gifted in our own ways, bad at everything else. ^^;;
For example, two other cousins of mine also have AS. One is a 3 yr old who can operate a computer (he can barely speak). He uses it to watch videos of Shahrukh Khan. xD
The other cousin of mine has a unique talent throught which he can imitate any song using his piano by hearing it just once. He's terrible at everything else. I'm also terrible at everything else which I'm not interested in. For example, my Mass Communication lecturer is the editor-in-chief of a newly launched magazine. He likes my writing skills and asked me to write an article on the Araku valley. I had gone there previously to study the local culture and landscape, and fell in love with the valley. I put my heart out into writing that article. He loved it. He asked me to write an article on the "two most happening events in the city, country, and world". 3 days have passed since my deadline and I've been unable to write a single word. brickwall
I imagine the same applies to eminent people with AS as well. Einstein, Newton, Hitler, Grandin, Beethoven, etc. Only good at what they're interested in. Einstein & Newton with physics, Hitler with politics, Grandin with animals, Beethoven with music.
Peace.
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The Khan,
I think you should get a professional opinion. It could be that you exhibit all the signs of someone with Asperger's syndrome only because you've convinced your subconscious you have it. I'm not saying you don't; all I'm saying is you should go see a doctor before you conclude you have Asperger's syndrome. And go to at least two doctors. Forgive me if this sounds forward, but it could be that you want to have Asperger's syndrome because smart men like Einstein had it.
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I was programming at the age of 8. Before that, I also had the talent of being able to almost immediately play on the livingroom keyboard/organ, melodies I had heard on the radio. And ability to perfom when expected, well, one can be inspired and not. This is all normal. It is not a sign of aspergers. It may be a sign of a child with blessings.
I talked to someone else who I later was told, had aspergers.
She was not able to understand certain culturual humour, and typically seemed to have a sexual undertone in almost everything she did. At times, she even claimed me to be her father, and that I had even raped her. She also claimed to be satan at some point, didn't see any wrong with claiming that, and often claimed religion was bad, without really seeming to think about the actual religion, but that someone who claimed to be religious, had treated her, by her opinion, badly. I think this was her father, but if she was a victim of paedophilia I don't know. She also seemed to be a compulsive liar, and made up quite a few stories about me, to other people, who where in this IRC channel, where I met her.This ofcourse, is an illness. But I also see a strong connection to jinn here. She was very similar to the girl in my teens, where I went to school. She was always the class clown, and never serious. And always "in love" with someone, and probably a teacher, and making things embarrasing.
While this girl with aspergers, didn't act like her, she reminded me of her, in other ways. And it was typically that, of being an enemy to conservative religious values.
So yes, if aspergers is an illness, that would be a symptom. To be blessed, is ofcourse not an illness.So, if we are to rule out whether this illness is mostly related to spirits, and can be remedied, or if it is phsyiological, and needs medification, or maybe even surgery, I asked you, have you tried strong religious morality, and behaviour, in your surroundings, and do you feel different about groups, if they are of strong belief or not.
In any case, you should try God alone, and Quran alone.
Aspergers to me, seems related to that of not being religious, or spirits, by my experiences.
And if you become firm in your belief, your consciousness of God, will increase. And that will, maybe, through time, totally annihilate this enemy spirit.Peace
I do apologise for the misunderstanding. We're uniquely gifted in our own ways, bad at everything else. ^^;;
For example, two other cousins of mine also have AS. One is a 3 yr old who can operate a computer (he can barely speak). He uses it to watch videos of Shahrukh Khan. xD
The other cousin of mine has a unique talent throught which he can imitate any song using his piano by hearing it just once. He's terrible at everything else. I'm also terrible at everything else which I'm not interested in. For example, my Mass Communication lecturer is the editor-in-chief of a newly launched magazine. He likes my writing skills and asked me to write an article on the Araku valley. I had gone there previously to study the local culture and landscape, and fell in love with the valley. I put my heart out into writing that article. He loved it. He asked me to write an article on the "two most happening events in the city, country, and world". 3 days have passed since my deadline and I've been unable to write a single word. brickwall
I imagine the same applies to eminent people with AS as well. Einstein, Newton, Hitler, Grandin, Beethoven, etc. Only good at what they're interested in. Einstein & Newton with physics, Hitler with politics, Grandin with animals, Beethoven with music.
Peace.