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    Rami
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    Greetings Elders of Mecca ,

    I would like to request about the opinion of the Great Sanhedrin of Islam regarding the Jewish maneuvers to destroy the Aqsa Mosque and the Dome and build their 3rd temple. The Jews are warming up for it. The following videos prove it;
    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdX_Ee7PiF8
    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfYVZY6ImHk
    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cV7ugrE8a8
    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktf9RBkdqks
    So what are we asking is what is importance of Jerusalem to Muslims anyway. The House of God(Bethel) is the Kaaba in Mecca. Right? Then why will all Muslims get mad if Jerusalem is taken. Mecca is everything. If it is, where in Saudi Arabia is Sodom and Gomorrah? and do you really think that Hagar and Ishmael travelled 1000 km to the South?? If Jerusalem is the Holy Land, I request the Council to prepare for war with Israel! Really folks what do you think??? We either give Jerusalem to these guys if our Pilgrimage is not there and if it is the Muslims should take Israel out.

    Peace.

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      Peace Rami,

      So what are we asking is what is importance of Jerusalem to Muslims anyway.

      If you are talking about the real "muslimin"/peacemakers then there is no importance. If you are talking about Muslims, they venerate a rock there and idolize the place and needlessly spill blood over those idols.

      The House of God(Bethel) is the Kaaba in Mecca. Right?

      No. See 2226 which unambiguously tells us the exact location of the house of the god.

      Then why will all Muslims get mad if Jerusalem is taken. Mecca is everything. If it is, where in Saudi Arabia is Sodom and Gomorrah? and do you really think that Hagar and Ishmael travelled 1000 km to the South?? If Jerusalem is the Holy Land, I request the Council to prepare for war with Israel! Really folks what do you think??? We either give Jerusalem to these guys if our Pilgrimage is not there and if it is the Muslims should take Israel out.

      The word "hagg" means feast not "pilgrimage". This is why 90% of the passages that talk about "hagg" relate to animal sacrifice and eating and feeding others.

      As for the location, please see

      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11105.0

      Peace,

      Ayman

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        Peace Rami,

        If you are talking about the real "muslimin"/peacemakers then there is no importance. If you are talking about Muslims, they venerate a rock there and idolize the place and needlessly spill blood over those idols.

        No. See 2226 which unambiguously tells us the exact location of the house of the god.

        The word "hagg" means feast not "pilgrimage". This is why 90% of the passages that talk about "hagg" relate to animal sacrifice and eating and feeding others.

        As for the location, please see

        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11105.0

        Peace,

        Ayman

        Peace Ayman,

        Muslims are law keepers even if that pushed them to war.

        Forget the rock but the Kaaba is actually a house with doors where offering reach there to be sacrificed then cooked and eaten by the needy and the poor. Muslims don't use it that way today but the Jews did that in the past in the Temple.

        2226 shows that God directed Abraham to the place of the House which is in the vicinity of the plantless valley of Baca. Yes Hajj is the feast, I am actually getting the idea to learn more of the Feast from the Torah which can help to shed more light on the Quranic hajj.

        Peace,

        Rami

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          Peace Rami,

          Muslims are law keepers even if that pushed them to war.

          Peacemakers/"muslimin" by definition and per the great reading can only go to war in self-defense.

          Forget the rock but the Kaaba is actually a house with doors where offering reach there to be sacrificed then cooked and eaten by the needy and the poor. Muslims don't use it that way today but the Jews did that in the past in the Temple.

          So how come Jews never heard of a stone cube named Kaaba? The word "kaaba" doesn't mean "saced stone cube". It means "base".

          2226 shows that God directed Abraham to the place of the House which is in the vicinity of the plantless valley of Baca.

          No, 2226 doesn't say that

          1. And when we assigned to Ibrahim the house's place is that do not partner with me a thing, and cleanse My house for the passers by, and the remaining, and the humbly obeying.

          The house's place is not one specific place for all times but is ANY place where no idols are setup as partners with the god.

          Also, there is nothing in the great reading about a "plantless valley". The Arabic word "zar3" (as opposed to "nabat"/plants) means "cultivation", in other word plants cultivated by humans. So the valley was uncultivated by humans but it was not necessarily plantless.

          Depending on whether bacca is a proper name or a common noun, the first house was in a place Bacca or was with "bacca"/competition. Implicit in the statement about the "first house being in Bacca" is that there are subsequent houses, not necessarily in Bacca.

          Yes Hajj is the feast, I am actually getting the idea to learn more of the Feast from the Torah which can help to shed more light on the Quranic hajj.

          Yes, the people of the book knew about the "hagg"/feast and interestingly, their biggest feast/"hagg", the "hagg HaSukut", falls on the fourth full-moon after the summer solstice.

          Psa 813 (814) Blow the horn at the new moon, at the full moon for our feast (hagg).

          This coincides with the timing for the feast that we are told about in the great reading

          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9188.0

          Peace,

          Ayman

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