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Surah 74 Prophesy fulfilled

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    anthonywallace
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    BLAH BLAH BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, Anthony. ) Please, if you are truthful, show us your clear proofs of messengership, which were given to ALL the messengers. If you don't have any proof of messengership, yet you want people to accept you as a messenger, YOU ARE A FOOL, not a messenger. laugh So, if you are a true messenger of God, especially the "new messenger of the covenant", then show us DIVINE PROOF of your messengership, not your ridiculous shirk concepts of numerology... Are you claiming that God doesn't support His messengers with clear proofs?

    Read the begging post. My proof is the Quran to back up my claims. What proof do you have? Bring it if you truthful. You have none but to only guess. God is enuff as a witness between me and you. You are the FOOL, but you dont perceive. It is not for us to bring you proof except by Gods leave.

    And why dont you never answer any of my questions? Why dont you bring ur proof? What links ur evedence to ur claims??? No, you only follow ur desires. You will be forced to the retribution significantly.

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      Ahmad_Bilal
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      Read the begging post. My proof is the Quran to back up my claims. What proof do you have? Bring it if you truthful. You have none but to only guess. God is enuff as a witness between me and you. You are the FOOL, but you dont perceive. It is not for us to bring you proof except by Gods leave.

      And why dont you never answer any of my questions? Why dont you bring ur proof? What links ur evedence to ur claims??? No, you only follow ur desires. You will be forced to the retribution significantly.

      Once again, you sound foolish. Why are you asking for MY proof? YOU are the one claiming to be a messenger! According to the Qur'an, the messengers are sent with "CLEAR PROOFS". So, if you are truly a messenger of God, you should have some proof to back up your claim. You can't just walk up to a group of submitters and say, "Hey guys, I'm God's messenger to you all..." You'll look like a complete idiot... ) So, like I said, if you are truly a messenger of God, then present your proof of messengership, or stop your blasphemies...

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        Once again, you sound foolish. Why are you asking for MY proof? YOU are the one claiming to be a messenger! According to the Qur'an, the messengers are sent with "CLEAR PROOFS". So, if you are truly a messenger of God, you should have some proof to back up your claim. You can't just walk up to a group of submitters and say, "Hey guys, I'm God's messenger to you all..." You'll look like a complete idiot... ) So, like I said, if you are truly a messenger of God, then present your proof of messengership, or stop your blasphemies...

        They came to you wit "clear proofs." But the rejecters reject them. ) ignore

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          Ahmad_Bilal
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          They came to you wit "clear proofs." But the rejecters reject them. ) ignore

          rotfl That's my point, guy... ) The messengers came with clear proofs; so if you're a messenger of God, YOU SHOULD HAVE CLEAR PROOFS TOO! So, where is your proof of messengership? -\ The rejectors reject the messengers by rejecting the clear proof. To date, though, you haven't brought any proof at all. So, how do you expect anyone to accept you as a true messenger of God? Please, provide some proof...

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            rotfl That's my point, guy... The messengers came with clear proofs; so if you're a messenger of God, YOU SHOULD HAVE CLEAR PROOFS TOO! So, where is your proof of messengership? -\ The rejectors reject the messengers by rejecting the clear proof. To date, though, you haven't brought any proof at all. So, how do you expect anyone to accept you as a true messenger of God? Please, provide some proof...

            ahmad can you not read, anthony brings them all the time but you just dont see look ill put them up for you...."clear proofs." what more do you need then that

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              Ahmad_Bilal
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              ahmad can you not read, anthony brings them all the time but you just dont see look ill put them up for you...."clear proofs." what more do you need then that

              rotfl rotfl rotfl

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                rotfl That's my point, guy... ) The messengers came with clear proofs; so if you're a messenger of God, YOU SHOULD HAVE CLEAR PROOFS TOO! So, where is your proof of messengership? -\ The rejectors reject the messengers by rejecting the clear proof. To date, though, you haven't brought any proof at all. So, how do you expect anyone to accept you as a true messenger of God? Please, provide some proof...

                ignore

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                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                  anthony,

                  you once again exposed yourself. You are being rude to believers (ie. you called Ahmad "satan&quot, "decide" who will go to hell or not (which you can not do) and you can YET AGAIN not bring ANY proof for your so- called "messengership" rotfl

                  @ everyone,
                  please look at the discussion between me and anthony here http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598266.45
                  please check page 2 of that thread.

                  Anthony repeats lame comebacks over and over again, such as ignore
                  and quoting verses of the Quran out of context.

                  ANTHONY IF YOU TRULY ARE A MESSENGER, THEN BRING YOUR PROOF. OTHERWISE YOU ARE EXPOSING YOURSELF AND PROVE THAT YOU ARE NOT A MESSENGER. A TRUE MESSENGER OF GOD COMES WITH CLEAR PROOFS.

                  Besides, are you sure that the following verses do not apply to you?

                  7416 No. He was stubborn to Our signs
                  7417 I will exhaust him in climbing

                  7418 He thought and he analyzed
                  7419 So woes to him for how he analyzed
                  7420 Then woe to him for how he analyzed

                  7421 Then he looked
                  7422 Then he frowned and scowled
                  7423 Then he turned away in arrogance
                  7424 He said, "This is nothing but an impressive magic"

                  prophecy fullfilled - by YOU

                  peace

                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                    ANTHONY IF YOU TRULY ARE A MESSENGER, THEN BRING YOUR PROOF.

                    Disprove he is a messenger as you were asking others to disprove something that is not...

                    Disprove the code 19 then.

                    Peace

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                      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                      Disprove he is a messenger as you were asking others to disprove something that is not...

                      Peace

                      Eid,

                      there is sufficient proof for code 19. The sincere will grasp it. Anthony has not brought ANY proof whatsoever. According to the Quran, messengers come with proofs as you can see on the link that i posted. So it is he who has to bring proofs not me who has to dispove that he is a so-called "messenger". Besides, I can only disprove it by saying that he has not brought proofs. How can I disprove his "messengership" in a different way when he has not brought any proofs, which make his claims impossible to be refuted (since there are no proofs)?

                      Peace

                      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                        Progressive,

                        there is sufficient proof of code 19. the sincere will grasp it.

                        that was sarcasm; what do mean only the sincere will grasp it? grasp what?

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                          anthonywallace
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                          anthony,

                          you once again exposed yourself. You are being rude to believers (ie. you called Ahmad "satan&quot, "decide" who will go to hell or not (which you can not do) and you can YET AGAIN not bring ANY proof for your so- called "messengership" rotfl

                          @ everyone,
                          please look at the discussion between me and anthony here http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598266.45
                          please check page 2 of that thread.

                          Anthony repeats lame comebacks over and over again, such as ignore
                          and quoting verses of the Quran out of context.

                          ANTHONY IF YOU TRULY ARE A MESSENGER, THEN BRING YOUR PROOF. OTHERWISE YOU ARE EXPOSING YOURSELF AND PROVE THAT YOU ARE NOT A MESSENGER. A TRUE MESSENGER OF GOD COMES WITH CLEAR PROOFS.

                          Besides, are you sure that the following verses do not apply to you?

                          7416 No. He was stubborn to Our signs
                          7417 I will exhaust him in climbing

                          7418 He thought and he analyzed
                          7419 So woes to him for how he analyzed
                          7420 Then woe to him for how he analyzed

                          7421 Then he looked
                          7422 Then he frowned and scowled
                          7423 Then he turned away in arrogance
                          7424 He said, "This is nothing but an impressive magic"

                          prophecy fullfilled - by YOU

                          peace

                          laugh First, Ahmad is not a believer. laugh I consider him and his followers disbelievers. voodoo

                          You have been warned. & So see what was the punishment of those after the warnings! &

                          God is sufficient as a witness between me and you. ) As fo those who believe in falshood and reject God, they are the losers.

                          Yes, I am sure surah 74 is not talking about me. And that it is specifically talking about Rashad and his followers.

                          I dont have abundant wealth. Nor do I have any children. And my life is a struggle. And I didnt say that any verse from the Quran is human words; even the two verses that have always been suspect. & Nor do I say that "the fire of Hell" is majic or a miricle. Nor do I deny Gods angels. Nor do I bring you a seperate scripture. ect...

                          So no, surah 74 is not talkin bout me. Your so called Allah partener Rashad is the one in 74. ! jedi

                          giveup laugh laugh laugh laugh ) ) yay yay rotfl rotfl bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo ;D

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                            laugh First, Ahmad is not a believer. laugh I consider him and his followers disbelievers. voodoo

                            You have been warned. & So see what was the punishment of those after the warnings! &

                            God is sufficient as a witness between me and you. As fo those who believe in falshood and reject God, they are the losers. P

                            Yes, I am sure surah 74 is not talking about me. And that it is specifically talking about Rashad and his followers.

                            I dont have abundant wealth. Nor do I have any children. P And my life is a struggle. P And I didnt say that any verse from the Quran is human words; even the two verses that have always been suspect. & Nor do I say that "the fire of Hell" is majic or a miricle. Nor do I deny Gods angels. Nor do I bring you a seperate scripture. ect...

                            So no, surah 74 is not talkin bout me. Your so called Allah partener Rashad is the one in 74. ! jedi

                            giveup laugh laugh laugh laugh yay yay rotfl rotfl bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo ;D

                            Peace
                            As per Code 19 your messengership is proved.Be grateful to Eid.
                            Regards

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                              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                              laugh First, Ahmad is not a believer. laugh I consider him and his followers disbelievers. voodoo

                              "...None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He (God)..." (7431)

                              You have been warned. & So see what was the punishment of those after the warnings! &

                              rotfl

                              God is sufficient as a witness between me and you. ) As fo those who believe in falshood and reject God, they are the losers. P

                              God is a witness between me and you that you cannot/did not provide ANY proofs for your so-called "messengership".

                              I dont have abundant wealth. Nor do I have any children. P And my life is a struggle. P And I didnt say that any verse from the Quran is human words; even the two verses that have always been suspect. & Nor do I say that "the fire of Hell" is majic or a miricle. Nor do I deny Gods angels. Nor do I bring you a seperate scripture. ect...

                              So no, surah 74 is not talkin bout me. Your so called Allah partener Rashad is the one in 74. ! jedi

                              first of all, learn how to spell proper English. Second of all, dont accuse me of setting up partners to God. For me, God alone is sufficient. I think your ego is too big and thats why you have declared yourself a "messenger".

                              My advice to you how about you stop declaring that you are a "messenger" which you clearly are not and people also think you are not (check the poll), and instead give money to charity, help out people, get a job and be someone who benefits humanity - the people who do this are dear in the sight of God. Why don't you try that out?

                              It is not gonna get us anywhere if we keep on arguing about code 19 or RK. Follow my advice, be honest and do good.
                              Stop threatening others. Maybe people will start to take you more serious and respect you.

                              peace

                              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                anthonywallace
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                                "...None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He (God)..." (7431)

                                rotfl

                                God is a witness between me and you that you cannot/did not provide ANY proofs for your so-called "messengership".

                                first of all, learn how to spell proper English. Second of all, dont accuse me of setting up partners to God. For me, God alone is sufficient. I think your ego is too big and thats why you have declared yourself a "messenger".

                                My advice to you how about you stop declaring that you are a "messenger" which you clearly are not and people also think you are not (check the poll), and instead give money to charity, help out people, get a job and be someone who benefits humanity - the people who do this are dear in the sight of God. Why don't you try that out?

                                It is not gonna get us anywhere if we keep on arguing about code 19 or RK. Follow my advice, be honest and do good.
                                Stop threatening others. Maybe people will start to take you more serious and respect you.

                                peace

                                Im not into taking any orders from the rejecters and hyporcrits. I tell you what to do.

                                Most of youll just hate cause God will bestow His grace on whoever He pleases. And also not equal are those who have submitted and the rejecters, nor the blind and the seer. Miserable is how you judge.

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                                  So what exactly do those that claim messengership from god have to show that they are real messengers?
                                  In the bible the test is to prophesize events that occur quickly thereafter. What about Islam?

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                                    Ahmad_Bilal
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                                    Peace Diem,

                                    Check these articles out, and they should provide you with plenty of information. Even if you disagree with the idea of Rashad Khalifa being a messenger, these links should still be pretty informative regarding who is a messenger and who's not

                                    http//submission.org/messenger/proof.html
                                    http//submission.org/criteria.html

                                    Peace,

                                    Ahmad

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                                      anthonywallace
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                                      So what exactly do those that claim messengership from god have to show that they are real messengers?
                                      In the bible the test is to prophesize events that occur quickly thereafter. What about Islam?

                                      peace

                                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598266.msg201711#msg201711

                                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598255.msg201710#msg201710

                                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597491.msg199527#msg199527

                                      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMwIENTzoAg

                                      peace

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                                        Meteora
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                                        rotfl That's my point, guy... The messengers came with clear proofs; so if you're a messenger of God, YOU SHOULD HAVE CLEAR PROOFS TOO! So, where is your proof of messengership? -\ The rejectors reject the messengers by rejecting the clear proof. To date, though, you haven't brought any proof at all. So, how do you expect anyone to accept you as a true messenger of God? Please, provide some proof...

                                        I've been wanting to ask him the same question. I'm not expecting anything out of it though.

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                                          No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                          I've been wanting to ask him the same question. I'm not expecting anything out of it though.

                                          Same here. I totally owned him

                                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598266.15

                                          I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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