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Surah 74 Prophesy fulfilled

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    vivek
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    Peace Dariush,

    Your assertions are absurd. Nobody is worshipping a number. Furthermore, Rashad denounced those who called him a prophet and he scolded those who began to treat him as someone esteemable enough to worship. yuck

    Belief in code 19 which is nothing but numerology is none other than a form of idol worship. All believers in the so-called code 19 are only polytheists(mushriks), infidels(Kafiroon) and hypocrites(munafiqoon). There is no doubt about it. It is the real status of all 19ers irrespective of whether they accept it or not.

    Yours truly,

    K.Vivekanandan

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      anthonywallace
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      Peace,

      And must I add that The God is 1, the Absolute. Therefore, woe to those who set up the 9 with the 1. hypno Also, code 19 is mathimatics not numerology ( the study of names and numbers). hypno

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        Ahmad_Bilal
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        Belief in code 19 which is nothing but numerology is none other than a form of idol worship. All believers in the so-called code 19 are only polytheists(mushriks), infidels(Kafiroon) and hypocrites(munafiqoon). There is no doubt about it. It is the real status of all 19ers irrespective of whether they accept it or not.

        What makes you more righteous than Rashad Khalifa and his supporters?! Many of them have a more solid belief than you do! How is it polytheistic and hypocritical to say that Allah preserved His scripture through mathematics? You think it makes you more monotheistic because you say that God doesn't know enough mathematics to incorporate it into His scripture?

        Allah will be the judge, and His curse shall fall upon the liars and hypocrites...

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          vivek
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          Peace Ahmad Bilal,

          What makes you more righteous than Rashad Khalifa and his supporters?!

          We believe in God's messages and reject all forms of idol worship including numerology but 19ers believe in code 19 numerology which is nothing but polytheism and are obsessed with counting 19 in scripture and nature rather than focussing on God's messages. Now, tell me what you think makes 19ers righteous when it comes to worship of God alone.

          Many of them have a more solid belief than you do!

          Can you tell me what kind of solid belief the 19ers have? I know it is nothing but solid belief in their own lies!!! They are fabricating lies and then start believing(in fact they pretend to believe but really they want others to believe in their lies because no sane people will believe in what they knowingly manufacture lies) their own lies!!!

          How is it polytheistic and hypocritical to say that Allah preserved His scripture through mathematics?

          All 19ers are polytheists because they have taken 19 as an authority to decide on religious beliefs which is evident from the fact that 19ers have their own fabricated religious dogmas authorized on the basis of 19 divisibles obtained through manipulative calculation methods and other 19 phenomena in the nature. It is nothing but one of the forms of idolatory.

          All 19ers are hypocrites because they know full well that God does not say over Quran is 19 and that over Saqar are nineteen angels but yet they promote an utter lie against God that God says over Quran is 19. They purposefully twist the meanings of the Quranic verses to promote their agenda.

          All 19ers are infidels because they do not believe in the authenticity of the Quran as the one revealed by God unless there is an imaginary code 19 to prove it. It means that if there is no code 19, then the Quran is not a revealed scripture and the messages and the eternal truths contained in the Quran do not matter for them!!!

          You think it makes you more monotheistic because you say that God doesn't know enough mathematics to incorporate it into His scripture?

          Not only me but any sensible person will never say that God does not know mathematics. It is only your tactics to accuse me falsely and thereby make noise to hide fallacy of code 19 theory. What we believers say is that God need not insert any code whether it is numerals based or anything else, in any of his scriptures to prove its authenticity and the mere messages themselves prove their authenticity.

          Allah will be the judge, and His curse shall fall upon the liars and hypocrites...

          Yes, I agree.

          Yours truly,

          K.Vivekanandan

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            vivek
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            Peace everyone,

            Prohecy fulflled in Surah 74. Rashad Khalifa exposed.

            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596963.msg185906#msg185906

            I'm also of the opinion that Surah 74 prophesied about Rashad Khalifa and his followers.

            Yours truly,

            K.Vivekanandan

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              peace And one more thing, how are you ( Darius/code19ers) not worshiping the number 19, when you exalt it above all other numbers. And you set up the 9 with the 1. The number 19 is made up of two numbers, and God is only 1. So woe to you for what you describe. hypno

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                anthonywallace
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                Peace everyone,

                I'm also of the opinion that Surah 74 prophesied about Rashad Khalifa and his followers.

                Yours truly,

                K.Vivekanandan

                peace There is no doubt about it, no opinion. You are on a straight path. The truth has come, while falshood has perished. Falshood is always bound to perish. peace

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                  Peace Ahmad Bilal,

                  We believe in God's messages and reject all forms of idol worship including numerology but 19ers believe in code 19 numerology which is nothing but polytheism and are obsessed with counting 19 in scripture and nature rather than focussing on God's messages. Now, tell me what you think makes 19ers righteous when it comes to worship of God alone.

                  Can you tell me what kind of solid belief the 19ers have? I know it is nothing but solid belief in their own lies!!! They are fabricating lies and then start believing(in fact they pretend to believe but really they want others to believe in their lies because no sane people will believe in what they knowingly manufacture lies) their own lies!!!

                  All 19ers are polytheists because they have taken 19 as an authority to decide on religious beliefs which is evident from the fact that 19ers have their own fabricated religious dogmas authorized on the basis of 19 divisibles obtained through manipulative calculation methods and other 19 phenomena in the nature. It is nothing but one of the forms of idolatory.

                  All 19ers are hypocrites because they know full well that God does not say over Quran is 19 and that over Saqar are nineteen angels but yet they promote an utter lie against God that God says over Quran is 19. They purposefully twist the meanings of the Quranic verses to promote their agenda.

                  All 19ers are infidels because they do not believe in the authenticity of the Quran as the one revealed by God unless there is an imaginary code 19 to prove it. It means that if there is no code 19, then the Quran is not a revealed scripture and the messages and the eternal truths contained in the Quran do not matter for them!!!

                  Not only me but any sensible person will never say that God does not know mathematics. It is only your tactics to accuse me falsely and thereby make noise to hide fallacy of code 19 theory. What we believers say is that God need not insert any code whether it is numerals based or anything else, in any of his scriptures to prove its authenticity and the mere messages themselves prove their authenticity.

                  Yes, I agree.

                  Yours truly,

                  K.Vivekanandan

                  hail

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                    khodr
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                    Peace everyone,

                    I'm also of the opinion that Surah 74 prophesied about Rashad Khalifa and his followers.

                    Yours truly,

                    K.Vivekanandan

                    salam vivek, all,

                    indeed! instead of the count itself, it is the fulfillment of the prophecy in sura 74 about the count being made to be nothing but a fitnat to the disbelievers is what results in the reassurance, the increased faith, and the removal of doubt.

                    sincerely
                    khodr

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                      khodr
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                      And you set up the 9 with the 1. The number 19 is made up of two numbers, and God is only 1. So woe to you for what you describe.

                      salam anthony, all,

                      a very profound observation. this is a fundamental truth.

                      blessings to all the truthful ones.

                      sincerly
                      khodr

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                        vivek
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                        salam vivek, all,

                        indeed! instead of the count itself, it is the fulfillment of the prophecy in sura 74 about the count being made to be nothing but a fitnat to the disbelievers is what results in the reassurance, the increased faith, and the removal of doubt.

                        sincerely
                        khodr

                        Peace khodr,

                        I'm in agreement with your statement above.

                        Yours truly,

                        K.Vivekanandan

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                          vivek
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                          peace There is no doubt about it, no opinion. You are on a straight path. The truth has come, while falshood has perished. Falshood is always bound to perish. peace

                          Peace anthonywallace,

                          Yes, I agree with your statement above.

                          Yours truly,

                          K.Vivekanandan

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                            anthonywallace
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                            salam anthony, all,

                            a very profound observation. this is a fundamental truth.

                            blessings to all the truthful ones.

                            sincerly
                            khodr

                            Peace anthonywallace,

                            Yes, I agree with your statement above.

                            Yours truly,

                            K.Vivekanandan

                            Praise be to God. And peace be upon you, our Lord has decreed mercy upon Himself, that any of you who commits sin out of ignorance and then repents afterwards and amends, then He is Forgiving, Merciful.

                            peace

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                              11matrix11
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                              Yeah Right! Anthony Wallace is the new messenger of the covenant. yay
                              Gimme a break. I am surprised how some of you can fall for this guy's posts. giveup
                              First of all who is he to belittle Rashad Khalifa? What is his objective behind all this. ???
                              Give the guy a break. At least he revealed the code 19 to prove that the Quran
                              is not only having divine revelations in the form of alphabets but also its
                              numbers are there for a purpose. So do not brush aside something miraculous
                              like this with ease before contemplating and pondering over the whole issue
                              very deeply.
                              The second point I want to make is that the evil powers that be are
                              aware of the divinity of the Quranic 19 as they reflected it on the recent
                              9-11 attacks. The trinitarian/Babylonian/crusader/Zionist alliance is aware
                              that is why they flashed the 19 hijackers on board the planes which hit
                              the twin towers. elektro
                              So there you have it do not take this 19 and its founder lightly and do not
                              trust any source which condemns before you analyze something for yourself. hmm
                              By the way everybody makes mistakes in life therefore same goes for
                              Rashad if he could have been wrong at certain points. But overall God is
                              forgiving and merciful. pr
                              So Anthony don't go passing judgement on people as though you are
                              an angel of God without blemishes and faults. angel

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                                anthonywallace
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                                Yeah Right! Anthony Wallace is the new messenger of the covenant. yay
                                Gimme a break. I am surprised how some of you can fall for this guy's posts. giveup
                                First of all who is he to belittle Rashad Khalifa? What is his objective behind all this. ???
                                Give the guy a break. At least he revealed the code 19 to prove that the Quran
                                is not only having divine revelations in the form of alphabets but also its
                                numbers are there for a purpose. So do not brush aside something miraculous
                                like this with ease before contemplating and pondering over the whole issue
                                very deeply.
                                The second point I want to make is that the evil powers that be are
                                aware of the divinity of the Quranic 19 as they reflected it on the recent
                                9-11 attacks. The trinitarian/Babylonian/crusader/Zionist alliance is aware
                                that is why they flashed the 19 hijackers on board the planes which hit
                                the twin towers. elektro
                                So there you have it do not take this 19 and its founder lightly and do not
                                trust any source which condemns before you analyze something for yourself. hmm
                                By the way everybody makes mistakes in life therefore same goes for
                                Rashad if he could have been wrong at certain points. But overall God is
                                forgiving and merciful. pr
                                So Anthony don't go passing judgement on people as though you are
                                an angel of God without blemishes and faults. angel

                                I do not say to you that im an angel. I only follow what is inspired to me. I am no more than a clear warner.

                                Those wicked code19ers and the other rejecters see false visions and believe untrue messages...God will judge between us. peace

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                                  Ahmad_Bilal
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                                  I do not say to you that im an angel. I only follow what is inspired to me. I am no more than a clear warner.

                                  Those wicked code19ers and the other rejecters see false visions and believe untrue messages...God will judge between us. peace

                                  Have you finally gotten some proof of messengership? Or do you still expect people to blindly follow you?

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                                    Jack
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                                    Those wicked code19ers and the other rejecters see false visions and believe untrue messages...God will judge between us. peace

                                    How nice. You make a judgment and THEN say that God will judge between us, with a peace "sign" no less. That's rich.

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                                      Ahmad_Bilal
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                                      How nice. You make a judgment and THEN say that God will judge between us, with a peace "sign" no less. That's rich.

                                      laugh

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                                        MUNZIR_ALI
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                                        How nice. You make a judgment and THEN say that God will judge between us, with a peace "sign" no less. That's rich.

                                        laugh A messenger contradicts his own words? WOW!

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                                          afridi220
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                                          laugh A messenger contradicts his own words? WOW!

                                          He mean to say that he already judged them and the final judgment is with Allah in other words he is a high court judge and Allah is the chief justice. D

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