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    anna
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    salam,
    back to topic. beards today are more of a style then anything, and they look pretty good actually some look better with beards... the only ones i dont like are the bushy ones a mile long.... other then that, i prefer them on men

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      mmkhan
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      Salaaman Anna,

      salam,
      back to topic. beards today are more of a style then anything, and they look pretty good actually some look better with beards... the only ones i dont like are the bushy ones a mile long.... other then that, i prefer them on men

      You are very smart... I am asking you whether it is compulsory or can one do wash his face while doing wudu, you came up with your personal selection and choice laugh Good, get married soon laugh

      Khan

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        anna
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        Salaaman Anna,

        You are very smart... I am asking you whether it is compulsory or can one do wash his face while doing wudu, you came up with your personal selection and choice laugh Good, get married soon laugh

        Khan

        no im not smart, im just me and i didnt even read the your question i was to busy answering your assumptions, and dont worry about me, you worry about your own girl......... i think i am done here. i know my place and this thread is not mine

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          mmkhan
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          Salaaman Anna,

          no im not smart, im just me and i didnt even read the your question i was to busy answering your assumptions, and dont worry about me, you worry about your own girl......... i think i am done here. i know my place and this thread is not mine

          Hey hey... I am just joking... I don't wanna hurt you or others in any ways... Please accept my sincere apologize if it really hurts you.

          I am really sorry for that...

          Khan

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            anna
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            Salaaman Anna,

            Hey hey... I am just joking... I don't wanna hurt you or others in any ways... Please accept my sincere apologize if it really hurts you.

            I am really sorry for that...

            Khan

            im not upset and no need for apology but i feel awkward when we get off topic, i feel like its rude, so i will not speak here anymore i will leave it for the men

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              mmkhan
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              Salaaman Anna,

              im not upset and no need for apology but i feel awkward when we get off topic, i feel like its rude, so i will not speak here anymore i will leave it for the men

              Its upto you.. but I admit that was my mistake... May Allah forgive me.

              Khan

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                Fuhrer
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                Lol, sorry for interrupting this flirt session, but...
                If it says in the Qur'an "you must keep a beard and shave the mustache", it's required. If it doesn't say it, then it's up to you whether you want to keep it because you think it looks cool or not. It says "obey God and the messenger" - "the messenger" being a general term for any messenger, not just Muhammed. And it says to not differentiate between messengers. Muhammed is no better than Jesus, who's no better than Abraham, Noah, etc.

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                  Brother Fuhrer,

                  Lol, sorry for interrupting this flirt session, but...
                  If it says in the Qur'an "you must keep a beard and shave the mustache", it's required. If it doesn't say it, then it's up to you whether you want to keep it because you think it looks cool or not. It says "obey God and the messenger" - "the messenger" being a general term for any messenger, not just Muhammed. And it says to not differentiate between messengers. Muhammed is no better than Jesus, who's no better than Abraham, Noah, etc.

                  I was NOT talking about IFs. What you said is different than what I asked. Actually, I was asking if anyone aware of any aayat that talks about beard, or can we conclude the beard is necessary from any of the verses of AlQuraan?

                  I hope you understand what I mean... It is a hot issue every where as I know.

                  Khan

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                    Al_Araf
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                    salam mmkhan. to paraphrase the torah, there is a verse in the torah that say do not round the corners of your beard.

                    the beard is not the only thing that differentiates men from women. would you as a man remove all those things that differentiate you from a woman?
                    why would a man look for reasons to look like a woman?
                    the way allah made you is perfect.

                    allah is the truth.

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                      IronSky
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                      Peace to all,

                      so, do you now have a beard al araf?

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                        Prissy
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                        Is it really possible to wash our faces with beard? I don't think so...

                        Does face include chin? If yes then it is not possible to wash who have beard.
                        What? Is this some kind of a joke or coming out of ignorant people? Millions of people all over the world have beards for whatever reasons and wash their faces on a regular basis. Likewise, women and some men have long hair; so does that mean they cannot wash their heads? Strange as it is, its coming out of Muslim progressive fanatics.

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                          Al_Araf
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                          salam ironsky. yes i do have a beard.

                          allah is the lawgiver.

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                            Fuhrer
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                            I was NOT talking about IFs. What you said is different than what I asked. Actually, I was asking if anyone aware of any aayat that talks about beard, or can we conclude the beard is necessary from any of the verses of AlQuraan?

                            I hope you understand what I mean... It is a hot issue every where as I know.

                            Khan

                            I was trying to say there is no verse in the Qur'an that supports this.
                            So the answer to your question is "No".

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                              Al_Araf
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                              salam fuhrer. you are mistaken.

                              the word quran means recitation. the torah is one of the recitations. if you ask is it in the quran, and i tell you it is present in the torah, then because it is present in the torah, it is present in the quran.

                              therefore the answer is yes.

                              allah is the one who teaches.

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                                Fuhrer
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                                the word quran means recitation. the torah is one of the recitations. if you ask is it in the quran, and i tell you it is present in the torah, then because it is present in the torah, it is present in the quran.

                                No offense, brother, but what kind of logic is that? There are crazy things present in the Torah and New Testament that the Qur'an doesn't mention...should we accept those too? The Qur'an was meant to be used in place of the previous scriptures, not alongside them. If God felt that men should have beard, He'd have at least inserted a verse addressing the issue in the Qur'an. Even half a verse. He didn't though, so it should be assumed that having a beard is optional, and has nothing to do with God or religion.

                                Sorry if I offend.

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                                  Al_Araf
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                                  salam fuhrer. no akhi no offense. allah ya salmak iddayk.

                                  i was taught as a child the same things as you are telling me. however, i read the torah and injeel. after reading torah and injeel and researching the translations, i was informed torah is in hebrew, and injeel is in aramaic. this was a big breakthrough.

                                  when i studied hebrew and aramaic, i was surprised to find the languages are so close they are almost identical. then reading torah in hebrew and injeel in aramaic, i saw the translations are wrong. not just wrong in one place, wrong time and time again. i see the same problem with quran translations.

                                  the source of your statement "there are crazy things present in the torah and injeel that the quran does not mention" is due to two issues. the confusion introduced by translations, and the mistake by compilers of the old and new testament of putting quran with hadith. they put the recitation of allah along with the stories of the messenger togethether, a bad mistake.

                                  if you separate the word of allah, in the torah and injeel, from the stories of the messengers, you will find they match perfectly with the quran.
                                  if you need assistance in discerning the two i am glad to help.

                                  my understanding from reading the part of quran that is called torah is that i am fard required to wear a beard. therefore i wear a beard. people can have their own versions of a beard, from zz top model to small goatee, thats is mubah. i personally keep a small goatee, the kind you see on a lot of saudi men.

                                  allah is the teacher.

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                                    TheNabi
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                                    Peace Khan

                                    Yes the beard is necessary because it makes you look cool, unless you're a woman with a beard, that just looks wierd. No offense meant to women with beards. I'm not used to women with beards. peace

                                    Joe

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                                      mmkhan
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                                      Salaaman Al Araf,

                                      salam mmkhan. to paraphrase the torah, there is a verse in the torah that say do not round the corners of your beard.

                                      the beard is not the only thing that differentiates men from women. would you as a man remove all those things that differentiate you from a woman?
                                      why would a man look for reasons to look like a woman?
                                      the way allah made you is perfect.

                                      allah is the truth.

                                      Do you mean we have to grow all our hair of every part?

                                      Do we have to grow our nail?

                                      Think about it again...

                                      Khan

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                                        mmkhan
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                                        Salaam Prissy,

                                        What? Is this some kind of a joke or coming out of ignorant people? Millions of people all over the world have beards for whatever reasons and wash their faces on a regular basis. Likewise, women and some men have long hair; so does that mean they cannot wash their heads? Strange as it is, its coming out of Muslim progressive fanatics.

                                        Did you understand what I asked? I was not talking about bath. My question is, is it possible to wash you face while abolution if one got a thick beard, because I believe that without proper abolution, Salaat is not valid as abolution is the compulsory condition for Salaat.

                                        Khan

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                                          mmkhan
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                                          Salaaman Fuhrer,

                                          I was trying to say there is no verse in the Qur'an that supports this.
                                          So the answer to your question is "No".

                                          Ok.. thank you for your clarification..

                                          Can you please let me know your understanding about 2094, what could be the reason of mentioning Prophet Haroon (AS) beard to us.

                                          Khan

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