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origins of quran

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    unknownuser
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    has anyone who believes the quran was written by humans done any serious research to identify the persons responsible for its composition?

    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16907.msg169706#msg169706

    God Bless..

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      Rajah
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      Hello siblings,
      The link points to hadith, I don mean to offend but would it be trustworthy? God only says 'scribes" in the quran without mentioning any names and that would not help....Maybe they were ghostwriters doing a service to God.. What about the initials? Anyone has anything to comment on that? Sometimes I feel they were left there interntionally..to leave a mark..

      I donno whether anyone else though of this...the "say" found in many chapters...

      The scenario Messenger comes with a question..Prophet begins with "say!!" Scribes write every letter of the utterings from the prophet including the "say"..messenger brings the writings with him to spread the words....I donno.. guessing...

      Prophets,Messengers and Scribes..a team...
      peace............

      peace...

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        Bigmo
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        Patricia Crone is one. There is the skepticsannoitedbible.com website. I think thats how its spelled

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          belH
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          has anyone who believes the quran was written by humans done any serious research to identify the persons responsible for its composition?

          Peace
          Quran is God's words that were inspired to Mohamed.
          Here are some of God's signs in Quran

          http//www.miraclesofthequran.com/

          Here is another one

          541 The moment drew near, and the moon has been cracked.*

          Cool a "crack"

          Here's some more (Nasa SP-362)

          http//www.lpi.usra.edu/education/fieldtrips/2006/explorations/images/lava_moon.jpg

          And more from probe kaguya

          http//www.badastronomy.com/pix/bablog/2007/kaguya_repsold.jpg

          http//www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/img/20071107_kaguya_01.jpg

          And a whole lot of "crack" too here... theres "cracks" is around that basin (from wiki sinus-iridum)

          http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Sinus-iridum-clem1.jpg/600px-Sinus-iridum-clem1.jpg

          http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/Imbrium_map.png/180px-Imbrium_map.png

          This "crack" looks long

          http//www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-362/p84.jpg

          http//www.astrosurf.com/lunascan/AS10-31-4645.jpg
          Rima Ariadaeus is a fine example of a straight rille. Ariadaeus Rille is over 300 km in length; a portion of the central section of the rille about 120 km in length is pictured here. A linear section of the crust is dropped down along parallel faults or breaks in the crust to form a graben or fault trough. The ridges crossing the trough and the surrounding plains units have been offset by the trough, proving that they are older than the faults. Some craters are cut off by the faults and are, therefore, older. Other craters lie on the wall of the trough and are younger than the faulting. The faulting must be relatively young because so few craters appear to be younger than the faults, and because the edges of the trough appear to be crisp and little affected by slumping and other mass wasting.

          There is a gradation between straight rilles, gently curving rilles, and sinuous rilles modified by volcanic flows. This example shows no trace of associated volcanism; it is, therefore, considered to be the end member of the sequence, where only pure faulting is involved.-H.M.

          For more information, The source of the pic on the first post is from Nasa
          Nasa

          Thanx to our brother i learned something more about the moon. Yay. handshake handshake yay yay

          Peace

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            Ahmad_Bilal
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            Here are some of God's signs in Quran

            http//www.miraclesofthequran.com/

            This website mentions the code 19 concept as being a divine miracle within the Qur'an, even though you rejected this sign... Are you saying that now you're a believer in Rashad Khalifa's ideology concerning the count of 19 in the scriptures?

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              unknownuser
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              Peace
              Quran is God's words that were inspired to Mohamed.

              inspired to Muhamed!

              where does it say that Br?

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                IronSky
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                Peace to all,

                Verily, We have inspired you (O Muhammad) as We inspired N?h (Noah) and the Prophets after him; We (also) inspired Ibr?him (Abraham), Ism?'il (Ishmael), Ish?que (Isaac), Ya'q?b (Jacob), and Al?Asb?t , 'Iesa (Jesus), Ayub (Job), Y?nus (Jonah), H?r?n (Aaron), and Sulaim?n (Solomon), and to Daw?d (David) We gave the Zab?r (Psalms)

                There are others verse that say inspired by GOd

                Kurt

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                  L_Hu
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                  Nobody who has claimed that God did not author the Quran, has done any serious research to substantate the claim. John Wansborough attempt was the most convincing and formidable, but now archeology has hurt it. Patrica Crone had a thesis, but she has abanded it. Computer analysis shows that the Quran has only one author or source. So now there is speculation on who wrote the Quran. I have my own opinons but they are irrelevant.

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                    belH
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                    o Are you saying that now you're a believer in Rashad Khalifa's ideology concerning the count of 19 in the scriptures?

                    ;D not after deleting 9-128 & 129

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                      Ahmad_Bilal
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                      ;D not after deleting 9-128 & 129

                      rotfl Okay...

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