Look at these Non-Quraanic manuscripts and comment plz plz
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Salaam brothers and sisters,
I have been going into discussion with the guys from this blog and these are the manuscripts they are using to backup their claim of written hadith at the time of the prophet lifetime... Please comment and discuss about it.... There is even en engraving of the Sunni Shahadah which they say is from the Hijrah times... Would you guys please help into investigating in these...
hxxp//abulhaarith.wordpress.com/2009/01/09/early-non-quraanic-manuscripts/
(hxxp->http)Thank you.
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Peace WayFinder,
I have been going into discussion with the guys from this blog and these are the manuscripts they are using to backup their claim of written hadith at the time of the prophet lifetime... Please comment and discuss about it.... There is even en engraving of the Sunni Shahadah which they say is from the Hijrah times... Would you guys please help into investigating in these...
hxxp//abulhaarith.wordpress.com/2009/01/09/early-non-quraanic-manuscripts/
(hxxp->http)The earliest ones are Abbassid era at best. You can tell, for example, by the fact that some of them contain vocalization marks, which weren't even invented until the 9th-10th century CE. The rock engravings are also typical Abbasid era calligraphy. Sunni apologists wrongly claim that those are dated to 4AH based on their own preconceptions but no archeologist has independently supported such claims. The book "al-Hujjah fee Bayaan al Mahajjah" was written by al-Asbahaanee, who died 535AH! Aboo Taahir Ahmad ibn Muhammad died 576AH! So those cannot be by any means early manuscripts.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace WayFinder,
The earliest ones are Abbassid era at best. You can tell, for example, by the fact that some of them contain vocalization marks, which weren't even invented until the 9th-10th century CE. The rock engravings are also typical Abbasid era calligraphy. Sunni apologists wrongly claim that those are dated to 4AH based on their own preconceptions but no archeologist has independently supported such claims. The book "al-Hujjah fee Bayaan al Mahajjah" was written by al-Asbahaanee, who died 535AH! Aboo Taahir Ahmad ibn Muhammad died 576AH! So those cannot be by any means early manuscripts.
Peace,
Ayman
Thanks you for this information brother Ayman.. It will be helpful...
May Allah guide us all to the straight path
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I know this is old...but I wanted to find out about this since a sunni was using this argument. Even if it were true, what about the other 45354345 "authentic" hadith? laugh Where are they? And why even consider such garbage as what will decide your fate?
Good reply Ayman. If what you're saying is true, then I'm glad to know that. Besides, I hope it is known that EVEN if they were made during the time of the prophet, it simply means...NOTHING! How do we know the prophet actually said these things let alone gave people permission to write them down and make them "part of the religion". For goodness sake...
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I know this is old...but I wanted to find out about this since a sunni was using this argument. Even if it were true, what about the other 45354345 "authentic" hadith? laugh Where are they? And why even consider such garbage as what will decide your fate?
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I think that muhammed would not even utter 45354345 sentences! (PBUH) laugh
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I know this is old...but I wanted to find out about this since a sunni was using this argument. Even if it were true, what about the other 45354345 "authentic" hadith? laugh Where are they? And why even consider such garbage as what will decide your fate?
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How you counted them are you a super Bukhari hmm wow
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No, I was just showing how the hadith are NUMBEROUS...
It should be kinda obvious I was mashing numbers.
There are about...let's see...on average each collection has 5000 hadith...and there are six sunni collections.
Therefore the number shouldn't be too off from 30,000...
That's a pretty big number, and, SOME HADITH ARE AS MUCH AS HAVING 300 WORDS OR MORE.
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Super Bukhari rotfl
Who needs that? the Normal Bukhari screwed Islam from beginning to end.
Just imagine what super bukhari would do! &
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Just imagine what super bukhari would do! &
I mean he could cut the earth in half! &
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Top to bottom or side to side?
Maybe both jedi