Unlettered/Gentile/Ummi prophet, who was He, Moses?
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so the Quran is the return of jesus (the word of GOd) that judges us in all truth and with justice forever, just as jesus said he would, it was the word of God that he embodied while he was here on earth, and now that he has died and gone, his return is the word of God embodied for all time in the Quran. What do you think of this idea?
Yes, Quran confirms and contains within it the true Torah and Injeel.
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Then think who is messenger of Quran sent to all men/humanity?
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YUSUFALI Say "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah2716
And Solomon was David's heir. He said "O ye people! We have been taught the speech of birds, and on us has been bestowed (a little) of all things this is indeed Grace manifest (from Allah.)"Look here solomon is being sent to all men........................look at the Arabic, and not what they have translate it to.
Yes, how prior events and guidance are conveyed via 100s of ?qul? or say all address the same messenger
http//www.islam-muslims.org/quran/47/2/
"Say"- addresses different people at different times in the quran, we have to look to who is in the context - i think.
Salaam.
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2716
And Solomon was David's heir. He said "O ye people! We have been taught the speech of birds, and on us has been bestowed (a little) of all things this is indeed Grace manifest (from Allah.)"Look here solomon is being sent to all men........................look at the Arabic, and not what they have translate it to.
Who said he said?
To all men, really?
The Arabic can be twisted same as translations; correct meaning does not contradict.Read Surah "in context" which begins
Ta-seen, these are verses the Quran?s and book clear
Guidance and good news to the believersWho is relaying this information?
"Say"- addresses different people at different times in the quran, we have to look to who is in the context - i think.
Yes, think find one qul (not qala) not addressing the same messenger of Quran.
Peace
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Who said he said?
To all men, really?
The Arabic can be twisted same as translations; correct meaning does not contradict.Read Surah "in context" which begins
Ta-seen, these are verses the Quran?s and book clear
Guidance and good news to the believersWho is relaying this information?
Yes, think find one qul (not qala) not addressing the same messenger of Quran.
Peace
Of course solomon is saying this?
2716
And Solomon was David's heir. He said "O ye people! We have been taught the speech of birds, and on us has been bestowed (a little) of all things this is indeed Grace manifest (from Allah.)"Isn't that how you see it?
If not who do you say is saying it? nope
ya ayyuha alnnasu=ya ayyuha alnnasu= "O ye people" and this is the same in both ayah's 2716 and 7158 ??
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Yes, think find one qul (not qala) not addressing the same messenger of Quran.
i believe most are addressing different people at different times.........i have given you one above 7158! i am almost 100% sure.?
Are you?
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Of course solomon is saying this?
2716
And Solomon was David's heir. He said "O ye people! We have been taught the speech of birds, and on us has been bestowed (a little) of all things this is indeed Grace manifest (from Allah.)"Isn't that how you see it?
Question was not what he said rather to whom was the recital recited which tells you he said this?
ya ayyuha alnnasu=ya ayyuha alnnasu= "O ye people" and this is the same in both ayah's 2716 and 7158 ??
i believe most are addressing different people at different times.........i have given you one above 7158! i am almost 100% sure.?
Are you?
I am 100% sure they are not the same
waqala ya ayyuha alnnasu
2716 and he said "O, you the peopleQul ya ayyuha alnnasu
7158 Say ?O, you the people7158 is a command to ?say?
2716 is a narration what was saidThe messenger of Quran is told to relay the stories of prior events and/or to give examples/guidance.
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Question was not what he said rather to whom was the recital recited which tells you he said this?
can you tell us then to whom was the recital recited and by whom. Thanks.
I am 100% sure they are not the same
waqala ya ayyuha alnnasu
2716 and he said "O, you the peopleQul ya ayyuha alnnasu
7158 Say ?O, you the people7158 is a command to ?say?
2716 is a narration what was saidThe messenger of Quran is told to relay the stories of prior events and/or to give examples/guidance.
Please correct me if i am wrong but i thought you was saying that the prophet of the quran was sent to all mankind while the rest of the prophets weren't.
Then think who is messenger of Quran sent to all men/humanity?
2716 and 7158 i thought showed that different messengers where sent to men everywhere unless we say that in both cases its the same person speaking or something like that.
peace
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can you tell us then to whom was the recital recited and by whom. Thanks.
to whom was the recital recited
http//www.islam-muslims.org/quran/47/2and by whom
http//www.islam-muslims.org/quran/2/97Please correct me if i am wrong but i thought you was saying that the prophet of the quran was sent to all mankind while the rest of the prophets weren't.
2716 and 7158 i thought showed that different messengers where sent to men everywhere unless we say that in both cases its the same person speaking or something like that.
As stated, every ?say? in Quran is consistently addressed to the same last prophet
http//www.searchtruth.com/search.php?keyword=qul&chapter=&translator=6&search=1&start=0&records_display=100&search_word=exact
7158 Say "O, you the people, I am God's messenger to you all/all together
peace
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to whom was the recital recited
http//www.islam-muslims.org/quran/47/2and by whom
http//www.islam-muslims.org/quran/2/97As stated, every ?say? in Quran is consistently addressed to the same last prophet
http//www.searchtruth.com/search.php?keyword=qul&chapter=&translator=6&search=1&start=0&records_display=100&search_word=exact
7158 Say "O, you the people, I am God's messenger to you all/all together
peace
Transliteration Qul man kana AAaduwwan lijibreela fa-innahu nazzalahu AAala qalbika bi-ithni Allahi musaddiqan lima bayna yadayhi wahudan wabushra lilmu/mineena
297 Say "Who was an enemy to Gabriel , so that he descended it on your heart/mind with God's permission, confirming to what (is) between his hands, and (a) guidance and a good news to the believers."
say "HE descended it on your heart....................confirming what between HIS hands...."
on your heart......(but).....HIS hands
"your" and "his"
so Gabriel descends it to peoples heart what is between Gabriels or the prophets hands.
isn't that what is implied?
God Bless.
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If you are content that "say" is addressed to the last prophet, open a different thread as to transmission.
Peace
sorry i edited when you was replying, may be you could answer it again.
Thanks.
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sorry i edited when you was replying, may be you could answer it again.
Thanks.
Sure thing.
297 Say "Who was an enemy to Gabriel, so that he descended it on your heart/mind with God's permission, confirming to what (is) between his hands, and (a) guidance and a good news to the believers."
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Say is addressed to last prophet (clear)
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Transmission medium is through Gabriel to the prophet?s mind with God?s permission (clear)
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Confirming to what between his hands (not clear)
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Guidance and good news to the believers (clear)
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Alif-lam-meemAllahu la ilaha illa huwa alhayyu alqayyoomu
God, no God except He, the alive, the of no beginning and self sufficient.Nazzala AAalayka alkitaba bialhaqqi musaddiqan lima bayna yadayhi waanzala alttawrata waal-injeel
He descended on you The Book with the truth, confirming to what (is) between His hands, and He descended the Torah and the Injeel.Now clear ?between His hands? is non literal meaning from God; cross reference for consistency
http//www.searchtruth.com/search.php?keyword=lima+bayna+yadayhi&translator=6&search=1&start=0
Peace
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