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Belongings of Prophet Muhammad and Tombs of Prophet

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    Meteora
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    Either way it's a bunch of @$$ and F@1L. So what if ONE or TWO out of 5,000,000 fabricated stories happen to be on an item we don't even know belongs to the prophet. Relying on such sources for religious guidance is stupid.

    Also WayFinder, can you, or someone else prove once and for all that there is no shown evidence that all the hadith in the "6 authentic collections" were written at the time of the prophet? Because hadith supporters are very keen on saying "If you don't believe in hadith, might as well not take the Quran, because they come from the same source" <-- I could already explain how many things are wrong with that statement. For example a normal human being believes in what happen to be facts (H2O is water) yet he may believe in other things that he thinks are facts but aren't (moon is made of cheese) so, if you disbelieve in belief #2 you have to also declare belief #1 is wrong? It's the same thing here. Those "people" may believe in a correct source (Quran, correctly describing things like human development) and belief in a false one (Hadith, saying how the sun rises and sets on Satan's antlers, if he has any, and that a fever is caused by the heat of hell and it causes the difference of seasons) <--all of these are disproven unscientific bs that are ignored by them because they love their garbage too much.

    Another fact that has to be regarded IS

    "Had it came from other than God, they would have found in it numerous contraditions" <----- UNDENIABLE PROOF ALONE THAT THE ONLY VALID SOURCE IS A BOOK FROM GOD, OR THE QURAN. There are MANY verses where the Quran isolates itself from anything else. What other book/hadith do you believe in/study from is damn crystal clear. I guess sunnis are too stupid that God needs to reveal a verse to them saying "DO NOT BELIEVE THE HADITH OF BUKHARI/MUSLIM/ABU DAWOOD/TIRMHIDI/ETC. LEST YOU ENTER HELLFIRE, FOREVER!!!"

    Unfortunately for the sunni's, "obey the messenger" CANNOT mean ANYTHING but obey the 272+ times he speaks to us in the Quran, directly.

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      WayFinder
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      Salaamun Alaykum

      Meteora... No matter what you say and how much you say it... some people will remain blind... It is not their eyes which are blind... But their heart...

      You should check the Munkar-e-Hadith thread on sunniforum and see for yourself how they fail mirserably when they are exposed to Quran and how they do all kind of acrobatics to run away from it. They even challenge me on how can I believe on the Quran if I do not believe in hadith... when they come from the same source... What the hell do they know... how can they make such a claim... can they retrace back each and every verse in this Quran to the Prophet... Definitely NO!... So they better stop with their non-sense...

      The heads of these people are filled with Hadiths and since there is no place to put more hadiths inside, they have been compelled to throw their logic to make space for more hadiths... Their logic is like a 2yr old kid... May Allah guide them...

      I am also waiting for them to produce these famous hadith manuscripts.. where are they...

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        MUNZIR_ALI
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        And I'll answer it with a "hell yes", because they love him more than humanity. No seriously, in Hislam you are taught to love Muhammad more than your own mother. rotfl

        -M

        today, my "hislamic" friends told me that Muhammed was a "perfect" man with no flaws...I told them, "Is that why he does not wan't to read and write?" laugh ...They were very angry and accused me of apostasy!

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          today, my "hislamic" friends told me that Muhammed was a "perfect" man with no flaws...I told them, "Is that why he does not wan't to read and write?" laugh ...They were very angry and accused me of apostasy! (

          Just be careful. I wouldn't want anything to happen to you

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            WayFinder
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            today, my "hislamic" friends told me that Muhammed was a "perfect" man with no flaws...I told them, "Is that why he does not wan't to read and write?" laugh ...They were very angry and accused me of apostasy! (

            It would have been very foolish to expect any other kind of reaction from them... Anyways, I better concentrate on the study of the Quran that wasting time with these people... I hope Allah guide us all to the straight path.. These people already have their Quran in their hands, so they will be solely responsible for their fate because the Quran DID REACH them!

            http//islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/6/6_19.gif
            619 Say "What thing is most weighty in evidence?" Say "(Allah) is witness between me and you; This Qur'an hath been revealed to me by inspiration, that I may warn you and all whom it reaches. Can ye possibly bear witness that besides Allah there is another Allah." Say "Nay! I cannot bear witness!" Say "But in truth He is the one Allah, and I truly am innocent of (your blasphemy of) joining others with Him."

            So technically, they will be answerable for the reason why they kept the Quran on the high shelves wrapped in embroided cloth...

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              Rev_John
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              It would have been very foolish to expect any other kind of reaction from them... Anyways, I better concentrate on the study of the Quran that wasting time with these people... I hope Allah guide us all to the straight path.. These people already have their Quran in their hands, so they will be solely responsible for their fate because the Quran DID REACH them!

              So technically, they will be answerable for the reason why they kept the Quran on the high shelves wrapped in embroided cloth...

              I would hate to see Islam make the same mistake with Muhammad as the Christians did with Jesus.

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                MUNZIR_ALI
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                Just be careful. I wouldn't want anything to happen to you

                well they are my friends so they wont't do anything! pr ...thanks for caring group

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                  Samia
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                  today, my "hislamic" friends told me that Muhammed was a "perfect" man with no flaws...I told them, "Is that why he does not wan't to read and write?"

                  This is an excellent response! I like it. bravo

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                    Ahmad_Bilal
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                    I would hate to see Islam make the same mistake with Muhammad as the Christians did with Jesus.

                    Unfortunately, most sectarian Muslims have already made this grave mistake, even to the extent of placing him as a partner beside God and making him an intercessor for all of humanity...

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                      Rev_John
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                      Unfortunately, most sectarian Muslims have already made this grave mistake, even to the extent of placing him as a partner beside God and making him an intercessor for all of humanity...

                      Such a shame, I suppose some of those people will probably start talking about a trinity and make the same big mistake of leaving God for a human

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