Will Israel finally Use Nuclear Bomb?

[Edip_Yuksel]

I detect double standard. First I have yet to see the same reaction about Darfur or Sril Lanka or Somalia where many children are dying. I think its hatred for Jews mainly rather than love for Palestinians. Anyways why should we care? I hate Israel mainly because I despise the mentality that majority of Jews have which is supremacist and selfish. I also recognize they stole Palestine. But I still do not see why this level of rage other than hatred for Israel. As far as its impact on everybody I fail to see how the world will get affected. What exactly is your obsession with this subject?

You are fabricating a lie about me. Show me a single statement posted by me that told others not to bother about Darfur or Sri Lanka, as you have just told us about Zionist atrocities against Palestinians in concentration camps! To the contrary, I had posted articles condemning the murderers in Darfur and the occupation in Tamil by the Sri Lanka government. Similarly, I have written article on Somalia.

For instance, I ended my article titled, If Muslims are Terrorists, then Jews and Christians are Terrorists to the Factor of 666!, with the following paragraphs (Remember Darfur is in Sudan)

"We should not favor one criminal over another because of their religion or nationality. However, state terrorism, regardless of the nationality and religion of the population, is much more cruel, dangerous, and sinister than the group or individual terrorism. In our stand against war, violence, and terrorism we must be consistent and fair. Peacemakers and promoters must also PROTEST and CONDEMN the atrocities conducted by the Evangelical-Zionist coalition in Chechnya, Iraq, Palestine, etc., as they condemn the atrocities committed by Sunni or Shiite radicals in Afghanistan, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, etc."

"So, if Muslims are called terrorists because they killed several thousand civilian people in last decade, Christians and Jews must be called "terrorists to the factor of 666" since they killed hundreds of thousands in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Vietnam, and just recently they killed tens of thousands civilians in Iraqi, and wounded even more."

http//www.19.org/index.php?id=14,174,0,0,1,0

But, there is a difference between Palestinian and all others for the following reasons

1. Palestinians have been suffering an uninterrupted injustice for generations, for about a century.

2. Palestinians are oppressed, humiliated and murdered in so many ways, and the difference between the powers of conflicting party's is the highest. On one hand, the world's fifth powerful military supported by the world's super-duper bully, on the other hand, a terrorized people that are starved and humiliated in concentration camps.

3. While the murderers and oppressors in other conflicts soon or later are condemned by the world's movers and shakers, in the case of Palestinians it is just the opposite. They are subjected to a cruel racial policy of genocide and extermination, but they are portrayed as terrorists by the world's super and duper powers!

So, stop using false accusations against me and false analogies to justify your enjoyment of injustice and slaughtering babies. People like you are shame for humanity.

Peace and Justice!
Edip

[Bigmo]

You are fabricating a lie about me. Show me a single statement posted by me that told others not to bother about Darfur or Sri Lanka, as you have just told us about Zionist atrocities against Palestinians in concentration camps! To the contrary, I had posted articles condemning the murderers in Darfur and the occupation in Tamil by the Sri Lanka government. Similarly, I have written article on Somalia.

For instance, I ended my article titled, If Muslims are Terrorists, then Jews and Christians are Terrorists to the Factor of 666!, with the following paragraphs (Remember Darfur is in Sudan)

But, there is a difference between Palestinian and all others for the following reasons

1. Palestinians have been suffering an uninterrupted injustice for generations, for about a century.

2. Palestinians are oppressed, humiliated and murdered in so many ways, and the difference between the powers of conflicting party's is the highest. On one hand, the world's fifth powerful military supported by the world's super-duper bully, on the other hand, a terrorized people that are starved and humiliated in concentration camps.

3. While the murderers and oppressors in other conflicts soon or later are condemned by the world's movers and shakers, in the case of Palestinians it is just the opposite. They are subjected to a cruel racial policy of genocide and extermination, but they are portrayed as terrorists by the world's super and duper powers!

So, stop using false accusations against me and false analogies to justify your enjoyment of injustice and slaughtering babies. People like you are shame for humanity.

Peace and Justice!
Edip

I didn't say you, I said I detect a double standard by Muslims.

What i asked YOU was why are you obsessed with this subject and I asked EVERYONE HERE why should WE care. Whether Mahmoud Abbas or Hamas, both of them will jail us and oppress us. It doesn't matter whether its the PLO or Hamas. The Mufti will always be Sunni and he will always see us as apostates. Look at Egypt.

You rush to judgement if you ask me.

[Bigmo]

FiRST THEY CAME (2009 VERSiON)

"In the world, they came first for the muslims, and i didn?t speak up because i wasn?t a muslim;

And then they came for the dissidents, and i didn?t speak up because i wasn?t a dissident;

And then they came for the neighbours, and i didn?t speak up because i was afraid;

And then . . . they came for me . . . and by that time there was no one left to speak up."

BTW This was posted on January 06, 2009,by mujahingle.
peace

Exactly! hail

[Edip_Yuksel]

I didn't say you, I said I detect a double standard by Muslims.

Dear Bigmo

Perhaps you meant that but you wrote that statement under a quotation from me to oppose my position.... Israel has killed more than 400 children and babies and injured thousands of children, women and old people. Are those babies terrorists?

Why are you so confused? Why are you opposing those who condemn these atrocities? What is wrong with you? I hope that you will not insist in justifying your apathy and perhaps cowardice.

Peace,
Edip

[javed1]

SALAM,
I fully endorse Edips stance and in this case of blatant oppression to be silent is to be an accomplice in Israeli and American crimes.
Javed

[Bigmo]

Dear Bigmo

Perhaps you meant that but you wrote that statement under a quotation from me to oppose my position.... Israel has killed more than 400 children and babies and injured thousands of children, women and old people. Are those babies terrorists?

Why are you so confused? Why are you opposing those who condemn these atrocities? What is wrong with you? I hope that you will not insist in justifying your apathy and perhaps cowardice.

Peace,
Edip

Its not cowardice, I have made my point many times here about Israel. But my opposition to Israel is based on religious grounds like their birth right to Palestine and their Talmudic teachings which is facist. I also despise their parasitic traditions as we see them doing in America. However there is a lot of crimes around the world and I have not seen this reaction from so called Muslims as I saw in Gaza. Most of us here will still be better of in Tel Aviv than we will be in Cairo, Damascus or Tehran. We must remember this. The Middle East is the most hostile place for any Koranist, we must remember this. The Koran tells us

"O ye who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just that is next to Piety and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do."

We should condemn Israel according to its level of crime. And as it stands, Israel has commited less atrocities than many Muslim states.

I think this goes back to the question whether we should refer to ourselves as Muslims or not. If we do then we will just be seen as part of the pack. We must stand out not because of the Zionist lobby or US pressure but because the Koran tells us to be fair even against those who despise and hate us.

Ask yourself, when the Syrians and their shite allies in Lebanon were pounding the Palestinian refugee camps did you care as much?

[farida]

However there is a lot of crimes around the world and I have not seen this reaction from so called Muslims as I saw in Gaza.

Salaam Bigmo
Do you know Tamil Tiger are one of the most dangerous group and they not only harass people back in Shrilanka but even abroad they behave like Mafia and you don?t want to deal with them ... So how do you help Shrilankan and other rebellion in India and how many countries are involved in unrest there?

Most of us here will still be better of in Tel Aviv than we will be in Cairo, Damascus or Tehran. We must remember this.

Never mind living in Tel Aviv try visiting there and then let us know about your experience

We should condemn Israel according to its level of crime. And as it stands, Israel has commited less atrocities than many Muslim states.

Zionist are totally responsible for the atrocities in the Palestine there are no others outside backer who are behind it just different factions within in the state of Israel
Maybe you should remember that Israel is in control of one of the holy places and they have not been fair to those who want to visit there. When the same places were in Muslim hands no one was stopped from visiting there. What we have now is an over-powerful Israel, bullying the defenceless people of Gaza and promoting only those who would do the dirty job for them. The sad thing is that we have to fund them without our knowledge The horrific torture of hundreds of people by Palestinian security forces in the West Bank is being funded by British taxpayers. An investigation by The Mail on Sunday has found that the forces responsible get ?20million a year from the UK. The victims ? some left maimed ? are rounded up for alleged involvement with the militant Islamic group Hamas, yet many have nothing to do with it
All you hear is that Hams is a terrorist organisation and every terrorist is a Muslim. Next you will say there are so many poor around us that, since we cannot help all we should help none and so on and on.
What has happened in Gaza was a deliberate demonstration of brute force on the part of Israel to intimidate the world and to warn the world powers to keep quiet as they now know how powerful Israel is today and what part it plays in world politics. That is why they applauded Shimon Perez despite knowing that Israel was committing crimes against humanity.

I think this goes back to the question whether we should refer to ourselves as Muslims or not. If we do then we will just be seen as part of the pack. We must stand out not because of the Zionist lobby or US pressure but because the Koran tells us to be fair even against those who despise and hate us.

How much do you know about Sudanese politics involvement of others countries in each others rising or about insider like Hassan Al Turabi, or Omar Bashir ? Turabi is locked away and the other is the sitting president causing a lot of publicity to the unrest in Sudan what is your opinion about them?
Who is singulary responsible for all thisFighting in Somalia has killed 10,000 civilians since early 2007, driven more than a million from their homes and left more than 3 million Somalis in need of emergency food aid. "We need to have more troops as a matter of urgency," said Nicolas Bwakira, the African Union Commission's Special Representative for Somalia. "We need to have also more resources as a matter of urgency." He said Uganda and Burundi had some 1,700 troops between them poised to strengthen their existing forces in Somalia, but the African Union needed some $200 million to make this happen

"O ye who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just that is next to Piety and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do."

Does that mean that we can say nothing about anyone unless we can control and condemn all crimes alike. Tell me how much knowledge you have about Srilanka or Sudan or Somalia or Pakistan? How come there are outsiders conducting the wars in those countries; no one knows who is who any more
The leader of Somalia's moderate Islamist opposition called on Saturday for international forces to deploy when Ethiopian troops leave the Horn of Africa nation, to create a chance of reaching a peaceful settlement.
Ethiopia said on Friday it would pull out by the end of the year the thousands of soldiers it sent in to support Somalia's Western-backed interim administration, raising the spectre of a security vacuum in an already chaotic and violent country.

Ask yourself, when the Syrians and their shite allies in Lebanon were pounding the Palestinian refugee camps did you care as much?
To be quite honest we still do not know who was behind all that as the problems in Lebanon assassination of politicians are blamed on each other and there is great confusion there. Lebanon was most advanced and peaceful country of the middle east before Israel started interfering, unless one knows who is solely responsible how can you blame someone on suspecion?
Turkey too have had enough of their headache, there are accusations of sraeli involvement in backing Kurds rebellions plus lot more going on as a result of Us invasion in the Afganistan?
In Afghanistan they've got God knows how much opium and brown heroin so just to take it one we have noticed the re-emergence of this white heroin which virtually disappeared in the 80s and 90s.?
He said there had been seizures overseas in Afghanistan and Turkey, as well as a huge haul last year of ?5.5million worth of heroin, including white heroin, in straws sewn into the weave of Afghan rugs.
Mr Coates, who has been involved in investigating the heroin trade for more than 20 years, said law enforcement agencies had seen a ?seismic change? in the supply to the UK.
He said ?I would estimate over 92 per cent of heroin used in the UK and probably throughout Europe comes from Afghanistan
.....in the early 90s, there was a seismic shift in heroin trafficking to the UK. Turkish-Kurdish groups really got involved,? he said.
?When the Turkish criminals started to get involved we saw a real difference - multi-hundred kilo loads, principally from Turkey.
?They were extremely sophisticated consignments in vehicles, in secret compartments or metal trays.?
Investigations culminated in the largest ever seizure in 1997 when authorities intercepted a haul of 890lb (404kg) imported in bathrobes from Turkey - a common route from Afghanistan.
Overseas seizures in Afghanistan and Turkey suggest large-scale producers have started to manufacture white heroin and export it to the UK.
Mr Coates said Soca is working with partners in the UK and Afghanistan and Turkey to stop the lethal drug reaching the UK.

The far bigger threats to world peace are Pakistan, with so much of it's north east run by groups little different from the Taliban, and Russia, which can't resist trying to dominate its neighbours in Central Asia.

But how much do you actually know about the troubles in Pakistan and their origin and the role of foreigners responsible for terrorism? Do you know from where they are coming and who pays them for the dirty jobs?
Finally, outside the media hype, do you really know who Osama bin Laden is or was, or if he is dead or alive?
peace

[Bigmo]

Salaam Bigmo
Do you know Tamil Tiger are one of the most dangerous group and they not only harass people back in Shrilanka but even abroad they behave like Mafia and you don?t want to deal with them ... So how do you help Shrilankan and other rebellion in India and how many countries are involved in unrest there? Never mind living in Tel Aviv try visiting there and then let us know about your experienceZionist are totally responsible for the atrocities in the Palestine there are no others outside backer who are behind it just different factions within in the state of Israel
Maybe you should remember that Israel is in control of one of the holy places and they have not been fair to those who want to visit there. When the same places were in Muslim hands no one was stopped from visiting there. What we have now is an over-powerful Israel, bullying the defenceless people of Gaza and promoting only those who would do the dirty job for them. The sad thing is that we have to fund them without our knowledge The horrific torture of hundreds of people by Palestinian security forces in the West Bank is being funded by British taxpayers. An investigation by The Mail on Sunday has found that the forces responsible get ?20million a year from the UK. The victims ? some left maimed ? are rounded up for alleged involvement with the militant Islamic group Hamas, yet many have nothing to do with it
All you hear is that Hams is a terrorist organisation and every terrorist is a Muslim. Next you will say there are so many poor around us that, since we cannot help all we should help none and so on and on.
What has happened in Gaza was a deliberate demonstration of brute force on the part of Israel to intimidate the world and to warn the world powers to keep quiet as they now know how powerful Israel is today and what part it plays in world politics. That is why they applauded Shimon Perez despite knowing that Israel was committing crimes against humanity.How much do you know about Sudanese politics involvement of others countries in each others rising or about insider like Hassan Al Turabi, or Omar Bashir ? Turabi is locked away and the other is the sitting president causing a lot of publicity to the unrest in Sudan what is your opinion about them?
Who is singulary responsible for all thisFighting in Somalia has killed 10,000 civilians since early 2007, driven more than a million from their homes and left more than 3 million Somalis in need of emergency food aid. "We need to have more troops as a matter of urgency," said Nicolas Bwakira, the African Union Commission's Special Representative for Somalia. "We need to have also more resources as a matter of urgency." He said Uganda and Burundi had some 1,700 troops between them poised to strengthen their existing forces in Somalia, but the African Union needed some $200 million to make this happenDoes that mean that we can say nothing about anyone unless we can control and condemn all crimes alike. Tell me how much knowledge you have about Srilanka or Sudan or Somalia or Pakistan? How come there are outsiders conducting the wars in those countries; no one knows who is who any more
The leader of Somalia's moderate Islamist opposition called on Saturday for international forces to deploy when Ethiopian troops leave the Horn of Africa nation, to create a chance of reaching a peaceful settlement.
Ethiopia said on Friday it would pull out by the end of the year the thousands of soldiers it sent in to support Somalia's Western-backed interim administration, raising the spectre of a security vacuum in an already chaotic and violent country. To be quite honest we still do not know who was behind all that as the problems in Lebanon assassination of politicians are blamed on each other and there is great confusion there. Lebanon was most advanced and peaceful country of the middle east before Israel started interfering, unless one knows who is solely responsible how can you blame someone on suspecion?
Turkey too have had enough of their headache, there are accusations of sraeli involvement in backing Kurds rebellions plus lot more going on as a result of Us invasion in the Afganistan?
In Afghanistan they've got God knows how much opium and brown heroin so just to take it one we have noticed the re-emergence of this white heroin which virtually disappeared in the 80s and 90s.?
He said there had been seizures overseas in Afghanistan and Turkey, as well as a huge haul last year of ?5.5million worth of heroin, including white heroin, in straws sewn into the weave of Afghan rugs.
Mr Coates, who has been involved in investigating the heroin trade for more than 20 years, said law enforcement agencies had seen a ?seismic change? in the supply to the UK.
He said ?I would estimate over 92 per cent of heroin used in the UK and probably throughout Europe comes from Afghanistan
.....in the early 90s, there was a seismic shift in heroin trafficking to the UK. Turkish-Kurdish groups really got involved,? he said.
?When the Turkish criminals started to get involved we saw a real difference - multi-hundred kilo loads, principally from Turkey.
?They were extremely sophisticated consignments in vehicles, in secret compartments or metal trays.?
Investigations culminated in the largest ever seizure in 1997 when authorities intercepted a haul of 890lb (404kg) imported in bathrobes from Turkey - a common route from Afghanistan.
Overseas seizures in Afghanistan and Turkey suggest large-scale producers have started to manufacture white heroin and export it to the UK.
Mr Coates said Soca is working with partners in the UK and Afghanistan and Turkey to stop the lethal drug reaching the UK.But how much do you actually know about the troubles in Pakistan and their origin and the role of foreigners responsible for terrorism? Do you know from where they are coming and who pays them for the dirty jobs?
Finally, outside the media hype, do you really know who Osama bin Laden is or was, or if he is dead or alive?
peace

Who said Israel is not responsible? But I do not think that people really care about the palestinians they are just pissed off that a tiny nation like Israel can overcome the whole Arab world and has a super power under its feet. Plus these muslims you are crying for would not consider anyone of us here as one of them. Indeed they will recognize Sharon and Perez before anyone of us. Look at the Bahai's in Egypt.

You think that you can go to Hamas or any other Arab or "Muslim" government and tell them that some here believe the Qibla is in Jerusalem or the Salaat is twice a day or the Ka'ba is an idol and think they will leave you to be? Man, you are crazy! laugh

[farida]

Who said Israel is not responsible? But I do not think that people really care about the palestinians they are just pissed off that a tiny nation like Israel can overcome the whole Arab world and has a super power under its feet. Plus these muslims you are crying for would not consider anyone of us here as one of them. Indeed they will recognize Sharon and Perez before anyone of us. Look at the Bahai's in Egypt.

You think that you can go to Hamas or any other Arab or "Muslim" government and tell them that some here believe the Qibla is in Jerusalem or the Salaat is twice a day or the Ka'ba is an idol and think they will leave you to be? Man, you are crazy! laugh

Salaam Bigmo,
What you think of why people are ped off is your problem; as for me I would say the question should not be 'what will they do to us', but 'what can we do for those who need our help and who is the aggressor? Being just is not the same as being a neutral bystander.
peace'.
Btw, it was "cowardice" on your part that you did not reply to the points raised in my post. yes

[anna]

the question should not be 'what will they do to us', but 'what can we do for those WHO NEED OUR HELP and who is the aggressor?

need our help, who are we?..........i did not know we are better then god, who is in need of whos help or do we care for gods creation more then he does..... you people still dont get it, and until you open your eyes youll never get it....even on this forum there is tafaroq or separation, exactely what god does not accept.......yes i feel saddened by the children who die, but am i really, are they in a worse place then we are, LA TAQOOL AMWATAN BAL A7YA2ON 3IND ALLAH.... we are the dead not them they are with god we are the blinded ones and we are the arrogant, bush was able to do anything he wanted and noone was able to stand in his face.....they couldnt even take him out of power and they have a so called democracy,
lets not forget, whatever the palestines are and im not talking about the children but the rulers the men of power , they are mushrikeen not mo2minin and wether they are arab or not, muslim or not, they are not mo2minin they teach there kids to blow themselves up instead of teaching them to worship one god,and we cant say that they are the few, it doesnt matter, even if they are, god says if you are a 100 you will win over 200, of course with a condition of worshipping god alone, they cry to the arab world and to the people of the world, always saying noone is helping us........have they ever asked god to help them ............

[farida]

need our help, who are we?..........

We are fellow human being. Why would you not help those who have been driven out of their homes and are crying out for your help?! Helping anyone you can is part and parcel of our faith. We are nothing but the means chosen by God and then it's up to us how we use our opportunities to be of service.

lets not forget, whatever the palestines are and im not talking about the children but the rulers the men of power , they are mushrikeen not mo2minin and wether they are arab or not, muslim or not, they are not mo2minin they teach there kids to blow themselves up instead of teaching them to worship one god,and we cant say that they are the few, it doesnt matter, even if they are, god says if you are a 100 you will win over 200, of course with a condition of worshipping god alone, they cry to the arab world and to the people of the world, always saying noone is helping us........have they ever asked god to help them ............

Palestinians are Muslims as well as Christians and non believers too; they are not fighting for the cause of Islam but for their land, which is their right. We dont have to fight alongside them, but when injustice is done to anyone it is our duty to stand up against it.
Who is a real momin or not God knows best and the rest will be dealt with on the day of judgement. Please do not turn away those who need your help just because they do not share your faith. You never know who will turn to true faith and die a Mohmin and who will, perhaps, loose their faith and die as rejecters. peace

[Yosemite]

turkey has to go further this way, haven't seen that many politicians being so deeply against what israel is doing, and showing it into meetings

note that the IDF also used civilians as human shield

http//www.btselem.org/English/Human_Shields/Index.asp

they say it has stopped in 2005

but nobody can be sure of this

everybody in the west feels sorry for what happened for ww2 and does not want to hurt the oh so poor israelites

[drfazl]

Brothers and Sisters,

You can have the arms and ammunitions for defense alone but the members of the United Notorious have organized themselves for aggression against humanity. The very purpose to possess the nukes are only to drop them upon the nations that do not fall to the command of the aggressing masters. Before Bush invaded Iraq he said he would nuke Iraq if necessary. When clinton engaged himself creating chaos in Russia, Putin said to Clinton "Shut up or I will nuke you!" If Iran is building nukes they do so only to drop it on some one. The whole world knows Israel and America are blood thirsty people! We do not know when Pakistan and India are going to drop them on each other.

Turn to Allah for Protection and Help. Allah says "There will not be a nation that will be left without destruction before the D Day. We are seeing almost it is done; and only a few more countries and places are left. The DD seems to be very near from the attitude of the people round the globe. They do not have the least fear for God. Associations to God and the associators are growing by the day.

One ummah has disintegrated into innumerable groups and the split is still continuing to divide and divide. Allah hates and despises them; but people do not worry about Allah nor fear His Wrath and Curse. The irony is they fear the nukes and israel! As muslims they should know it well but for Allah's Leave no evil shall touch if only they are believers. If Allah has forsaken them then who shall they turn to for protection and help when the hour come near? Allah says if He were to punish for your misdeeds and arrogance and hypocrisy there will not be a life on the surface of the earth. It seems with the knowledge of the nukes thus granted, that Allah had allowed the destruction in such form that there shall not be a life on the earth on the day the nukes are dropped.

Let the nuke be dropped; yet Allah will give the believers the wisdom and knowledge to fight off the heat. We know this example from Allah when He commanded the fire to remove its heat and become tender for Ibrahim when he was thrown into fire by the enemies of Allah and Ibrahim. We are in dire need of the knowledge and this is exactly the prayer for us now. "O God, increase us in our knowledge!" According to Allah whoso follow the path of Ibrahim and become His near and dear companion shall inherit the world after the DD until the JD arrives!

May Allah Bless the Obedient!

.

[liquiddharma]

That's not true. If you look at history it is very clear that weapons of mass distruction were developed out of fear - to fight other major powers - not to oppress the little people. The first chemical weapons - poisoned gas - were developed by Britain and Germany to fight each other in World War 1. Nuclear weapons were developed by the USA during world war 2 for use against Imperial Japan, and by the USSR in the late 1940s for use against America. India and Pakistan developed nukes to use against each other.

Colin Powell said on British TV, when interviewed by Jeramy Paxman before the start of the Afgan War, very clearly and specifically that the USA was not going to use nuclear weapons in the 'War on Terror'. Bush may have liked to talk tough but it was never a part of their plans. Big countries don't need nuclear weapons to control small countries. They only possess them out of fear of other big powers.

[Diem]

That's not true. If you look at history it is very clear that weapons of mass distruction were developed out of fear - to fight other major powers - not to oppress the little people. The first chemical weapons - poisoned gas - were developed by Britain and Germany to fight each other in World War 1. Nuclear weapons were developed by the USA during world war 2 for use against Imperial Japan, and by the USSR in the late 1940s for use against America. India and Pakistan developed nukes to use against each other.

Colin Powell said on British TV, when interviewed by Jeramy Paxman before the start of the Afgan War, very clearly and specifically that the USA was not going to use nuclear weapons in the 'War on Terror'. Bush may have liked to talk tough but it was never a part of their plans. Big countries don't need nuclear weapons to control small countries. They only possess them out of fear of other big powers.

Imperial Japan was not a threat when Nagasaki and Hiroshima were decimated. The Americans attacked a civilian city with atomic weapons that not only killed thousands, they harmed generations to come, along with natural life living in the area. This was nothing but typical muscle flexing.

[liquiddharma]

Even so, the reason they developed the weapons was very much to fight Germany and Japan at their strength. The most likely reason they used them against Japanese cities was to send a message to Stalin, to show their willingness to use the weapons - hence it was very much out of fear, fear of communism, fear of Russia. Fear is a bad thing, including fear of nuclear weapons.

http//www.dailymotion.com/video/x1k6ko_do-it-for-our-country_fun

[drfazl]

Even so, the reason they developed the weapons was very much to fight Germany and Japan at their strength. The most likely reason they used them against Japanese cities was to send a message to Stalin, to show their willingness to use the weapons - hence it was very much out of fear, fear of communism, fear of Russia. Fear is a bad thing, including fear of nuclear weapons.

http//www.dailymotion.com/video/x1k6ko_do-it-for-our-country_fun

America is for good a busybody; its track record on use of WMD is well known history; all people know America's rabid approach and occupation of iraq, afghan and frightening all the small nations in the world, is on tablets never to be erased; until the end of the world America's animosity against the muslim world will always be evergreen in the minds of the populations to come. America's rhetoric that it would use nuke if necessary on any nation it aggresses upon is its incessant obsession.

If for America fear for another nation is the reason for possessing nukes, the same nukes are even more necessary for all the Middle eastern countries to deter America. How opportunistic you are to say that India and Pakistan have developed nukes to use it on each other! America is fully accountable for all the misfortunes and destructions round the globe. Going by your reason the whole world fears America for its rabidity, that it must be denuclearized for peace in the worlds.

Peace.

.

[liquiddharma]

Hey, is it true, or is it false? Did India and Pakistan develop nukes for some other reason? Was it to oppress random islands in the pacific? Does India need nukes to steal the resources of the naked spear men of North Sentinel Island?

I'm not defending the imperialism of major powers that we see in the world. Just telling you to be more realistic when looking at the motivations of countries. It's got little to do with secret conspiracies to control everything, and a lot to do with electorates voting for morons because they're afraid of Mr bin Laden's long beard.

We don't need to disarm anyone to create peace. We need to put in place proper institutions to keep the peace in the world, and to force governments to respect human rights and enforce rule of law in the anarchic regions of the world.

[drfazl]

Wolf and the goat story is being made here into theory! This has been the american idiotology all the time.

[farida]

PS; Maybe first it will be (developed by the state of Israel) genetically targeted biological weapons and then finally someone who has got nothing left to lose will use nukes as a last resort. .

Salaam

So the finding of 2004 is coming out for all to know and get ready and to inject fear but they plot and God plots and God is the best of plotters

http//usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/38389

"This warfare of the future is reminiscent of what Israel has been doing for years, but with one-ton bombs, 155-mm artillery shells, and tank-fired antipersonnel flechette bombs. Are FLM weapons like DIME an improvement? Or will they actually increase civilian casualties and suffering, and mimic depleted uranium weapons by inducing disease and genetic damage in their victims?"
It?s been almost five months since the first report that Israeli drone aircraft have been dropping a ?mystery weapon? on Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. Since then, news media around the world have run stories depicting the strange and ?horrific? wounds inflicted by the new bomb. The international press has spoken with Palestinian doctors and medics who say Israel?s new device is a kind of chemical weapon that has significantly increased the fatality rate among the victims of Israeli attacks.

?They cannot return to life again?
When the shrapnel hit the body, it causes very strong burns that destroy the tissues around the bones?it burns and destroys internal organs, like the liver, kidneys, and the spleen and other organs and makes saving the wounded almost impossible. As a surgeon, I have seen thousands of wounds during the Intifada, but nothing was like this weapon.?

Tungsten in Tissue Samples A DIME Weapon?
Maj. Gen. Yitzhak Ben-Israel, former chief of the IDF's weapons development program. General Ben-Israel appeared to be familiar with DIME weapons. He explained that, "one of the ideas is to allow those targeted to be hit without causing damage to bystanders or other persons."
Horrific? wounds in Gaza may be warfare of the future
The ?who knew?? charade Implanting four tiny bits of weapons-grade HMTA in lab mice induced terminal cancer in 100 percent of the subjects. A powdered HMTA recipe was tumor-generating and capable of ?genotoxic effects?. At least one experiment found parallels in the way DU and HMTA attack DNA. The results of another suggested that HMTA may pass its genetic damage down to the next generation

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The human genome target or innocent bystander?
We can only pray that we have not witnessed the first experiment in the effects of embedded HMTA in human subjects.

We will likely be told that DIME weapons provide a more ?humane? way to fight ?terrorism? by ?reducing collateral damage? and ?helping US troops win hearts and minds?. At the same time, we?ll be assured that the new weapon ?packs quite a punch? and will ?give our troops more options? to ?take the battle to the enemy?, even if he is ?hiding among civilians?.