New to Islam
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Peace to All!
The Quran/God lead me to God/Quran Alone . After reading the Quran (in English) and reading some hadith and sunnah and seeing how they contradict the Quran, I couldnt understand how anyone could follow them. I then began searching the web for Quran alone websites, which eventually led me here.
I am trying to follow Quran alone and to learn more about True Islam.Peace
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Glad to have you aboard, peace!
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Peace Kadeen, and Welcome to the Forum!
Here are some good websites on considering the concept of "God ALONE Quran ALONE"
http//www.quranalone.com/
http//www.masjidtucson.org/index.html
http//www.quran-islam.org/208.html
http//www.freewebs.com/tawhiyd/index.htmThere are plenty of other ones too. I don't necessarily agree with every perspective of the website hosters, but I completely agree with the concept of "Quran alone", and I think these sites (and others) give a very good basis on this issue, giving plenty of necessary information regarding hadiths, sunna, and the Reading ("Quran" itself. If you'd like, you should check them out, and you'll find plenty of useful information...
Peace,
Ahmad
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Thanks everyone for the kind welcomes! Look forward to chating and learning.
Thanks Ahmad Bilal & Wakas for the links, I will check them out. Ive already checked out the quranalone, quran_islam and the masjidtuscon sites, but thanks again. Any other sites not listed I would appreciate the links to them. )
Salaam!
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Peace and welcome Kadeen.. glad to have you on the forum..
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ve been born Muslim but I consider myself new to Islam..new-in other words-to its dynamic force that enables one to be active and be in peace and harmony with ones self and the surrounding community,where each thing we do is purposeful and in service to ones own development and the whole globes..where there is real freedom,tolerance and unity..May God bless you,
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Peace and welcome Kadeen.. glad to have you on the forum..
I
ve been born Muslim but I consider myself new to Islam..new-in other words-to its dynamic force that enables one to be active and be in peace and harmony with ones self and the surrounding community,where each thing we do is purposeful and in service to ones own development and the whole globes..where there is real freedom,tolerance and unity..May God bless you,
Peace and Thanks for the welcome sa`adah. Nice to be here...
I wasnt born Muslim, but consider myself looking to prove to myself that Quran and Islam as it says in Quran is true. Its getting harder and harder to understand some things. Thats one reason I came here, to hopefully learn. God willing this site may help me.Thanks and May God Bless you aswell!
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Peace Kadeen, and Welcome to the Forum!
Here are some good websites on considering the concept of "God ALONE Quran ALONE"
http//www.quranalone.com/
http//www.masjidtucson.org/index.html
http//www.quran-islam.org/208.html
http//www.freewebs.com/tawhiyd/index.htmThere are plenty of other ones too. I don't necessarily agree with every perspective of the website hosters, but I completely agree with the concept of "Quran alone", and I think these sites (and others) give a very good basis on this issue, giving plenty of necessary information regarding hadiths, sunna, and the Reading ("Quran" itself. If you'd like, you should check them out, and you'll find plenty of useful information...
Peace,
Ahmad
I thought he said he is Quran alone... why you are posting sites about the Rasidiyya-Sect?
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Peace and Thanks for the welcome sa`adah. Nice to be here...
I wasnt born Muslim, but consider myself looking to prove to myself that Quran and Islam as it says in Quran is true. Its getting harder and harder to understand some things. Thats one reason I came here, to hopefully learn. God willing this site may help me.Thanks and May God Bless you aswell!
peace,Kadeen.. thank you..
Discussion and debate are always useful to any group of people,it`s a progressive tool..the internet is a real blessing..Its getting harder and harder to understand some things. Thats one reason I came here, to hopefully learn. God willing this site may help me.
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s no hardship in the system of God (227,its natural and simple,if one puts that mental obstacle "hard to understand",he shall understand little..the system is simple,look inside yourself,believe in that moral code engraved within you,let your natural compass guide you,look around,assume as much mercy-654- and compassion in each detail of life you see each day,and you will find them,you will radiate them..
Believe and you shall receive,"knock on the door and it shall open to you."Peace,
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I thought he said he is Quran alone... why you are posting sites about the Rasidiyya-Sect? )
What is the 'Rasidiyya sect'? I've never heard of such a group... The websites I posted are about the foundations of "Quran alone". Would you have rathered I posted some Sunni links?
Peace,
Ahmad
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peace,Kadeen.. thank you..
Discussion and debate are always useful to any group of people,its a progressive tool..the internet is a real blessing..Theres no hardship in the system of God (227,it`s natural and simple,if one puts that mental obstacle "hard to understand",he shall understand little..the system is simple,look inside yourself,believe in that moral code engraved within you,let your natural compass guide you,look around,assume as much mercy-654- and compassion in each detail of life you see each day,and you will find them,you will radiate them..
Believe and you shall receive,"knock on the door and it shall open to you."Peace,
Your welcome!
I agree discussion and debate and the internet are useful. Well its hard to understand at times. I see 2 salats and some see more, some see none. So its confussing at times. Just look around at all the different opinions for example. If its as plain and simple that is spoken of, then there would not be so many opinions amongst Quran Alone Submitters/Muslims. Because it would be plain to understand.
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What is the 'Rasidiyya sect'? I've never heard of such a group... The websites I posted are about the foundations of "Quran alone". Would you have rathered I posted some Sunni links?
Peace,
Ahmad
I believe he was referring to the sites that follow Rashid Khalifa.
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Peace Kadeen,
I believe he was referring to the sites that follow Rashid Khalifa.
I know what he's talking about, brother. This is his own innovation, as Rashad Khalifa never started a group known as "Rasidiyyas". I was simply addressing the fact that he's spreading nonsense. Rashad Khalifa never started his own sect, just like Muhammad or Jesus never started their own religions called Islam or Christianity... Rashad Khalifa called his followers by many names (i.e. submitters, believers, God aloners, Quran aloners, etc.), but Rasidiyyas was definately not one of them... It's amazing how many people condemn Rashad Khalifa, a supporter of preaching the doctrines of "Quran alone", even the so-called "Quran aloners". In reality, people could learn a lot from Rashad Khalifa's teachings and example, especially concerning his concept of "GOD ALONE QURAN ALONE"...
Peace,
Ahmad
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Peace Ahmad Bilal,
Sorry didnt mean to imply that you didnt know. It was in jest/sarcasm. )
I dont condemn Mr.Khalifa, I just dont follow everything the man taught. Yes I agree some of the things he taught were benificial to the God Alone/Quran Alone movement.
God Bless!
KadeenPeace Kadeen,
I know what he's talking about, brother. This is his own innovation, as Rashad Khalifa never started a group known as "Rasidiyyas". I was simply addressing the fact that he's spreading nonsense. Rashad Khalifa never started his own sect, just like Muhammad or Jesus never started their own religions called Islam or Christianity... Rashad Khalifa called his followers by many names (i.e. submitters, believers, God aloners, Quran aloners, etc.), but Rasidiyyas was definately not one of them... It's amazing how many people condemn Rashad Khalifa, a supporter of preaching the doctrines of "Quran alone", even the so-called "Quran aloners". In reality, people could learn a lot from Rashad Khalifa's teachings and example, especially concerning his concept of "GOD ALONE QURAN ALONE"...
Peace,
Ahmad
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I know what he's talking about, brother. This is his own innovation, as Rashad Khalifa never started a group known as "Rasidiyyas". I was simply addressing the fact that he's spreading nonsense. Rashad Khalifa never started his own sect, just like Muhammad or Jesus never started their own religions called Islam or Christianity... Rashad Khalifa called his followers by many names (i.e. submitters, believers, God aloners, Quran aloners, etc.), but Rasidiyyas was definately not one of them... It's amazing how many people condemn Rashad Khalifa, a supporter of preaching the doctrines of "Quran alone", even the so-called "Quran aloners". In reality, people could learn a lot from Rashad Khalifa's teachings and example, especially concerning his concept of "GOD ALONE QURAN ALONE"...
Once I heard a similar story about Wehab
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Once I heard a similar story about Wehab
Well, contrary to popular belief, Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab wasn't intending to start his own sect either. His followers later started idolizing him, after his death. He didn't base his doctrines on "alquran alone" either; he followed the hadith and sunna extremely closely, and his intention was ridding Islam of it's cultural practices and interpretations, especially the ones that conflicted with the hadith and sunna. Many followers later distorted, and even abandoned, some of his teachings. Others have enforced them to the extreme, to the point of being called extremists and terrorists... Wahhab's doctrine of what he considered pure monotheism forbade his followers from calling themselves "Wahhabis", which is why they still don't use this term today. Instead, they call themselves "al-Muwahhidun", "Salaafi", "Salaafi Daa'wa", or "Ahl al-Sunna wa'al-Jamaa"...
When did Rashad Khalifa instruct his followers to call themselves "Khalifites", "Rasidiyyas", "19ers", or anything else like this? You are preaching an innovation, and none of your words justify your claim of them being labeled by this title, no matter how much you talk about it. You'll never find a submitter calling himself a "19er" or a "Rasidiyya", not ever. Maybe you should take this into consideration when determining your choice of names (or labels) for people...
