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    smmirza
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    Peace all,
    I went to the Friday congregation prayer at the masjid here and noticed that they had the name of Allah and Muhammad side by side. Now I am having second thoughts about going to the masjid. What is your view on the subject?

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      belH
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      Peace all,
      I went to the Friday congregation prayer at the masjid here and noticed that they had the name of Allah and Muhammad side by side. Now I am having second thoughts about going to the masjid. What is your view on the subject?

      Peace
      I have the same problem as well; all the Masjid around my area are suni's.
      until today, I use these Masjeds for Friday prayers. The only thing I learn is how these hadith upholders manipulate the Quran to fit their Hadith teachings; and while the Emam is doing so, I feel so hopeless and upset.
      Until today, I do not know if I should continue to go or not?
      confused

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        Real_Truth
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        why don't you make your house your masjid !

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          Bahr53
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          Salaamun Aleikum
          Me. I have stopped going to Masjiid, they promote Hislam (Hadith-Islam) instead of Allahs Deen Islaam.
          Also since there are NO RITUALS in Islam, there are no point of joining a ritual prayer not glorifying Allah alone.
          Bahr

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            Real_Truth
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            Salaamun Aleikum
            Me. I have stopped going to Masjiid, they promote Hislam (Hadith-Islam) instead of Allahs Deen Islaam.
            Also since there are NO RITUALS in Islam, there are no point of joining a ritual prayer not glorifying Allah alone.
            Bahr

            said it perfectly

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              fats
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              salam,
              This i guess is a problem shared by most God only subscribers
              I find it very hard myself so please if anyone offers a worthwhile solution it would be most appreciated.

              the hang up is the God +messenger recitations which is prevalent across most standard mosques...

              other than pray on ones own surroundings.. does it really matter to go to mosques for prayers?

              the jummah prayers which is complusory is another thing as well... i guess it is to hold on to your own.. till Gw something crops up..

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                smmirza
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                Glad to hear your responses. Now my parents are really going to flip out. I think GW I will go talk to the imaam about this and make him bring the Muhammad name down, doubt if he will agree. On a side note, my parents think I am being inspired by Satan and rebelling. I told them that I am rebelling; but against man made religion. Just last night my mom asked me to say "La haul wala quwat illa billa..." to drive away the Satan and I told her this wasn't some magic verse that was going to make me revert to the corrupted Islam. I did tell her I pray to God that if I am on the wrong path then give me guidance, but if I am on the right path then give me strength. She seemed to be satisifed!

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                  YaAsantewaa
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                  slms
                  I can?t go to the masjid anymore because I refuse to wear Hijab while I?m praying
                  anyway you can pray at home as well as in any masjid...

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                    drfazl
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                    We stay away from the mosques because hadith rules the roost over there. Whether we pray in mosque or at home, the ritual prayer as taught in hadith alone is being practiced by the quran alone people. Any way you cannot get out of your houses for the same reason.

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                      mavera
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                      i understand and respect the condition of YaAsantewaa.

                      if i'm not at home, i usually wait for half an hour for others to finish prayer than go and use the (empty) masjid, i don't see much of a problem with that.

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                        farida
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                        i understand and respect the condition of YaAsantewaa.

                        if i'm not at home, i usually wait for half an hour for others to finish prayer than go and use the (empty) masjid, i don't see much of a problem with that.

                        Salaam

                        I refused to go to any mosque unless I was convinced that its foundation was laid on piety. While investigating this I was horrified with what I came to know, I won?t even like to stand there to socialise so how can I offer my prayers in the mosques which do not comply with the ayahs below.
                        Surah 9;
                        108. Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure.

                        1. Which then is best? - he that layeth his foundation on piety to Allah and His good pleasure? - or he that layeth his foundation on an undermined sand-cliff ready to crumble to pieces? and it doth crumble to pieces with him, into the fire of Hell. And Allah guideth not people that do wrong.

                        2. The foundation of those who so build is never free from suspicion and shakiness in their hearts, until their hearts are cut to pieces. And Allah is All-Knowing, Wise.

                        I would propose everyone should find out themselves if the mosques are in line with the above requirements.
                        peace

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                          drfazl
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                          Farida Which is the mosque built with piety from the beginning? Who are the men in there that wish purity? Will it be our own houses that satisfy the two criteria?

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                            farida
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                            Farida Which is the mosque built with piety from the beginning? Who are the men in there that wish purity? Will it be our own houses that satisfy the two criteria?

                            Salaam drfazl

                            I came across one such mosque in Karachi, Pakistan and I respected them for maintaining the mosque only on their carefully screened funds. This mosque was started by a Physician, who started teaching about the meaning of tawheed and shirk. They were liberal in their thinking and, with time, researched and questioned many hadeeths.

                            The local people were hostile to them and tried to burn that mosque but, despite being a very small minority they have managed to survive and still maintain the mosque IMO with integrity.(The rest only Allah knows) They encouraged that everyone should investigate mosques before praying there and I learned from them that we should do prayers in our own house if there is no pure mosque and that?s what we have done in the UK.

                            peace

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                              belH
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                              Salaam

                              I refused to go to any mosque unless I was convinced that its foundation was laid on piety. While investigating this I was horrified with what I came to know, I won?t even like to stand there to socialise so how can I offer my prayers in the mosques which do not comply with the ayahs below.
                              Surah 9;
                              108. Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure.

                              1. Which then is best? - he that layeth his foundation on piety to Allah and His good pleasure? - or he that layeth his foundation on an undermined sand-cliff ready to crumble to pieces? and it doth crumble to pieces with him, into the fire of Hell. And Allah guideth not people that do wrong.

                              2. The foundation of those who so build is never free from suspicion and shakiness in their hearts, until their hearts are cut to pieces. And Allah is All-Knowing, Wise.

                              I would propose everyone should find out themselves if the mosques are in line with the above requirements.
                              peace

                              Peace Farida
                              I have always thought that tis was an order to the Prophet and not to all of us; but when thinking about it, I believe that the order is for all the Believers. Any way, I will have to search it again.
                              Thank you for reminding us with these verses.
                              Peace

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                                drfazl
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                                Farida

                                Yes, may good sense prevail upon us and may Allah make each of our homes, a sacred mosque, and may He help our folks at home, start living with fear for Him. Let us pray for purity of our hearts so that it is kept that way for those who need peace. It is for such grace, people's mind will be circumventing the house and the household. Let us keep our hearts clean and pure to make our houses, the Bait al haram. Let each of our houses be the take off point for the incredible journey to masjid al Aqsa.

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                                  farida
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                                  Farida

                                  Yes, may good sense prevail upon us and may Allah make each of our homes, a sacred mosque, and may He help our folks at home, start living with fear for Him. Let us pray for purity of our hearts so that it is kept that way for those who need peace. It is for such grace, people's mind will be circumventing the house and the household. Let us keep our hearts clean and pure to make our houses, the Bait al haram. Let each of our houses be the take off point for the incredible journey to masjid al Aqsa.

                                  Insha'Allah handshake

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                                    Salaam

                                    I refused to go to any mosque unless I was convinced that its foundation was laid on piety. While investigating this I was horrified with what I came to know, I won?t even like to stand there to socialise so how can I offer my prayers in the mosques which do not comply with the ayahs below.
                                    Surah 9;
                                    108. Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure.

                                    1. Which then is best? - he that layeth his foundation on piety to Allah and His good pleasure? - or he that layeth his foundation on an undermined sand-cliff ready to crumble to pieces? and it doth crumble to pieces with him, into the fire of Hell. And Allah guideth not people that do wrong.

                                    2. The foundation of those who so build is never free from suspicion and shakiness in their hearts, until their hearts are cut to pieces. And Allah is All-Knowing, Wise.

                                    I would propose everyone should find out themselves if the mosques are in line with the above requirements.
                                    peace

                                    Salaams ,

                                    with respects- my view is ;

                                    Buildings arn't based on mischief and or piety but your actions are.

                                    A msjid is an action, msjid al haram is an action that is forbidden-quite a few in the quran, A bait is a system where by we do things relative to one another and A bait al haram is a system that is forbidden like it is wrong for you to start up a system whereby you start eating up things belonging to others.

                                    hmm

                                    God Bless. peace

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                                      Ahmad_Bilal
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                                      Peace to all,

                                      The majority of Islaamic mosques are built on paganism and idolatry, and they can't worship God without attributing partners to Him. We're encouraged to seek out a place based on TAWHID, and most Muslims will never find a modern mosque that fits this simple criterion...

                                      Now, I have a question What about synagogues? Modern Jewish temples are dedicated to worshipping God (Allah, Elohim, YHVH, etc.) alone, and you won't find the idolatrous statements that fill Islaamic mosques (i.e. "La ilaaha illa allah wa muhammad alrasuwl wa'abdu allah") and Christian churches (i.e. "Jesus is Lord and Savior") pasted in Jewish synagogues. Even though they follow the guidance of prophets and rabbis, they don't put their words above the actual words of God in the Tavrah, especially not Orthodox Jews, which is completely contrary to modern masjids where Muslims place the hadith and sunna writings equal to, or even above, the Qur'aan... So, what's wrong with praying in a Jewish synagogue?

                                      A mosque is mainly grammatically considered as simply 'a place of worship'. In sectarian Islaam, this is the Muslim masjid. In Judaism, this is the Jewish temple or synagogue. In Christianity, this is the Christian church. All of them are considered "mosques"... As we already know, Christian churches are completely out of the question because of their idolatry, and unfortunately, so are most modern Islaamic masjids. So, what about Jewish synagogues? Are they out of the question too?

                                      Peace,

                                      Ahmad

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                                        drfazl
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                                        Peace to all,

                                        The majority of Islaamic mosques are built on paganism and idolatry, and they can't worship God without attributing partners to Him. We're encouraged to seek out a place based on TAWHID, and most Muslims will never find a modern mosque that fits this simple criterion...

                                        Now, I have a question What about synagogues? Modern Jewish temples are dedicated to worshipping God (Allah, Elohim, YHVH, etc.) alone, and you won't find the idolatrous statements that fill Islaamic mosques (i.e. "La ilaaha illa allah wa muhammad alrasuwl wa'abdu allah&quot and Christian churches (i.e. "Jesus is Lord and Savior&quot pasted in Jewish synagogues. Even though they follow the guidance of prophets and rabbis, they don't put their words above the actual words of God in the Tavrah, especially not Orthodox Jews, which is completely contrary to modern masjids where Muslims place the hadith and sunna writings equal to, or even above, the Qur'aan... So, what's wrong with praying in a Jewish synagogue?

                                        A mosque is mainly grammatically considered as simply 'a place of worship'. In sectarian Islaam, this is the Muslim masjid. In Judaism, this is the Jewish temple or synagogue. In Christianity, this is the Christian church. All of them are considered "mosques"... As we already know, Christian churches are completely out of the question because of their idolatry, and unfortunately, so are most modern Islaamic masjids. So, what about Jewish synagogues? Are they out of the question too?

                                        Peace,

                                        Ahmad

                                        Ahmad Bilal,

                                        I agree with you. Jewish synagogues are better places definitely than Ka'aba.

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                                          mavera
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                                          hi. i still don't get it, maybe it's because we see different examples in our neighbourhoods.

                                          praying at home is ok. but think of someone leaving home early in the morning and will return home late in the evening. are you suggesting not to perform salat/prayer during the day and wait until he gets home?

                                          what i see when i go to the mosque after regular prayer, is an empty big room, maybe a few people praying, scattered around the room, no one interferes, forces, even stares at any other person. there is no barrier for you to perform your praying, your style. in these terms, not using the mosque and look for a synagogue, i find it very unpractical and unnecessary, if not nonsense. (in general perspective, yes, the world itself is a mosque, you can pray anywhere)

                                          i (also) think, it's not the buildings, it's the people.

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