A personalized miracle in the Quran
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As-salamu Alaikum,
Thank you all for your comments. .As I've stated in my earlier post, I knew Hadith were faulty even as a child from a gut feeling. 19 is how I was introduced to the conept of monotheism. I have not read the quran in its entirety yet, but inshallah I will finish it soon. I've ordered a copy of "The Message." But from my reading and understanding so far, based on these verses2130 And who would abandon the creed of Abraham except one who
fools himself? We have selected him in this world, and in the Hereafter
he is of the righteous.
2131 When his Lord said to him ?Submit,? he said ?I submit to the
Lord of the worlds.?
2132 And Abraham enjoined his sons and Jacob ?O my sons, God has
selected the system for you, so do not die except as ones who have submitted.?
2133 Or were you present when death came to Jacob and he told his
sons ?Who shall you serve after I am gone??, they said ?Your god, and
the god of your fathers Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac; One god and to
Him we submit.?I think of myself as someone who has submitted to the one and only God. As far as 19 is concerned, I have done some research on it, and I do believe it is a sign because 19 is how I was introduced to the conept of monotheism. But even without 19, I am now able to see that we were meant to follow the QURAN and solely the QURAN based on various verses throughout quran. I dont deny the miracle of 19, but it is not the only reason I am a submiter.
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Salam Madhoshi
I wish you well on your path and your newly discovered knowledge of an alternative, and as most of here believe, a true spiritual path. As a fellow Bangladeshi, I must say it makes me very happy that there are others beside myself and my mother and sister, from our country, who have made the choice to see things differently.
Peace and God bless
Sarah
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I would prefer to think of it as "monotheism is the right path". 19 like everything else can be likened to a finger pointing to the moon... dont concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
Good quote by the late Bruce Lee... laugh
Peace Maryum,
Continue to follow the straight path, and welcome to the forum. Here's a site where you can do a thorough search on the doctrines of Dr. Rashad Khalifa, and God willing, you will find it very beneficial and enlightening...
http//www.quranalone.com/
Peace,
Ahmad
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Whats that number 19 business going on... GOD tells us to believe in the unseen. It looks like people are diverted towards numerology which will give temporary benefits. The sign shown by Satan is just number 19 and sign by GOD is beyond and incomparable. Even inifinte has the materialistic approach.
See already GOD is keeping Patiece on us and already we are living with HIS mercy. Be ashamed of saying Number 19 etc which is a shameful act and GOD definitely do not like this.By saying 19 we are insulting GOD. By changing by name into 19 will I land up in heaven. What a shame !!!. GOD says man is betrayer and we are verily prooving that by saying 19...Man becoming like animals and worst than animals...
Even a lay man will understand GOD is gracious and not materialistic... So hereafter we all humbly submit to GOD stop palying with numbers.. Now belive in One GOD onstead of 19 gods and nothing else...Throw the numerology into dustbin... (Even the numerolgy surrenders to GOD how just apply your pondering...(19 = 1+9 = 10 ; 10 = 1+ 0 = 1 So there is only One God (1) and none but HE...)
Let us respect GOD... I am seeking forgives from GOD for writing this as well as for others...
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Peace Jango,
Whats that number 19 business going on... GOD tells us to believe in the unseen. It looks like people are diverted towards numerology which will give temporary benefits. The sign shown by Satan is just number 19 and sign by GOD is beyond and incomparable. Even inifinte has the materialistic approach.
See already GOD is keeping Patiece on us and already we are living with HIS mercy. Be ashamed of saying Number 19 etc which is a shameful act and GOD definitely do not like this.By saying 19 we are insulting GOD. By changing by name into 19 will I land up in heaven. What a shame !!!. GOD says man is betrayer and we are verily prooving that by saying 19...Man becoming like animals and worst than animals...
Even a lay man will understand GOD is gracious and not materialistic... So hereafter stop palying with numbers.. No belive in One GOD and nothing else...
Throw the numerology into dustbinWhat are you talking about? You think we should believe simply on blind faith?! Be aware that God will indeed throw in hell many who think just like you, and there will be no escape for the wicked ones. Abraham was supposed to believe in the unseen, yet he told God to send him a sign of His presence and magnitude. Moses was supposed to believe in the unseen, yet he asked God if he could see Him physically. Do you not understand?! The "clear proofs" are sent to the believers, and the disbelievers are incapable of seeing and understanding these. However, the righteous ones take heed. This is one of the main messages presented in the Qur'aan; even God's strongest believers (i.e. Abraham, Moses, etc.) needed proofs and signs from God to confirm their belief. Are you greater than them?
http//www.submission.org/messenger/proof.html
Until you actually know what this "19" is, maybe you should stop speaking on it. Do some research, and perhaps God will guide you...
Peace,
Ahmad
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Ahamed,
You have made peace into pieces(definitely not mine). For me 19 is one God if at all to some extent pacify mundane numero's people using numerology as tool 19 = 1+9= 10 =1+0 =1 GOD...Still GOD wins against Nuemrology Dogs.At least Numerologist will be happy with this answer becuase we have to come down from highest level to lowest numerology level to satify them....
Atleast we feel solace to our conciousness that you are talking about Ibrahim and Moses that makes pieces into peace again. At one point you have nice nature whn you talk about prophets. We pray GOD to improve your conscience. So we dont drag great people into 19 business theory.
Atleast don't disturb their peace, they peacefully praying for our bad deeds scheduling between seven heavens..(Again dont bring numerology or using seven (7))We pray lord now... Lord give us wisdom and save us from Titanic/Satanic 19..We belive in one GOD
Tell me one thing? Whom you are following ?
GOD or Is it 19( its end of teen) ...So stop this double digit numbers with double standard and we be humble and GOD start liking us.We already do many mistakes and why we add additional numbers to sins.
Do you explain and argue with GOD with 19 number theory when you are question by Almighty when your turn comes?.
Be afraid of GOD and not with numbers...Love
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Salam Madhoshi
I wish you well on your path and your newly discovered knowledge of an alternative, and as most of here believe, a true spiritual path. As a fellow Bangladeshi, I must say it makes me very happy that there are others beside myself and my mother and sister, from our country, who have made the choice to see things differently.
Peace and God bless
Sarah
Salam Sarah,
Thank you for your comment. I'm so glad to hear that there are other bengali's that follow quran alone. It can be a lonely world sometimes. I'm always trying to practice what I learn in the quran and it's quite difficult when your surrounded by people who say otherwise just because they have a different source (hadith/sunnah). I been trying to get my family to see quran alone path but it isn't going very well. But this morning, I did get my husband to get up and pray ON TIME and I'm trying to get my family to see it's not okay to miss prayer and think you can make it up later. The only thing you can really do is pray for forgiveness if you do miss a prayer. -
welcome to the forum maryum ;D
peace
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Welcome to the forum. Very nice topic you have posted.
I was introduced to monotheism through the 19 miracle in Al-Quran (I believe the last two verses of chapter 9 are part of Al-Quran).
I agree what Wakas says in terms of not concentrating on the 19 but the One God and studying the scripture which this forum is an excellent place to do so.
PEACE