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Re: How did Music become HARAM?

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    adley
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    Salaam Soul2Squeeze,

    These are the music-related hadiths I can collect. All from Bukhari. yay

    Volume 2, Book 15, Number 70
    Narrated Aisha
    Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) came to my house while two girls were singing beside me the songs of Buath (a story about the war between the two tribes of the Ansar, the Khazraj and the Aus, before Islam). The Prophet (p.b.u.h) lay down and turned his face to the other side. Then Abu Bakr came and spoke to me harshly saying, "Musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet (p.b.u.h) ?" Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) turned his face towards him and said, "Leave them." When Abu Bakr became inattentive, I signalled to those girls to go out and they left. It was the day of 'Id, and the Black people were playing with shields and spears; so either I requested the Prophet (p.b.u.h) or he asked me whether I would like to see the display. I replied in the affirmative. Then the Prophet (p.b.u.h) made me stand behind him and my cheek was touching his cheek and he was saying, "Carry on! O Bani Arfida," till I got tired. The Prophet (p.b.u.h) asked me, "Are you satisfied (Is that sufficient for you)?" I replied in the affirmative and he told me to leave.

    Volume 2, Book 15, Number 72
    Narrated Aisha
    Abu Bakr came to my house while two small Ansari girls were singing beside me the stories of the Ansar concerning the Day of Buath. And they were not singers. Abu Bakr said protestingly, "Musical instruments of Satan in the house of Allah's Apostle !" It happened on the 'Id day and Allah's Apostle said, "O Abu Bakr! There is an 'Id for every nation and this is our 'Id."

    Volume 5, Book 58, Number 268
    Narrated Aisha
    That once Abu Bakr came to her on the day of 'Id-ul-Fitr or 'Id ul Adha while the Prophet was with her and there were two girl singers with her, singing songs of the Ansar about the day of Buath. Abu Bakr said twice. "Musical instrument of Satan!" But the Prophet said, "Leave them Abu Bakr, for every nation has an 'Id (i.e. festival) and this day is our 'Id."

    Volume 6, Book 61, Number 568
    Narrated Abu Musa
    That the Prophet said to him' "O Abu Musa! You have been given one of the musical wind-instruments of the family of David .'

    Volume 7, Book 69, Number 494v
    Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari
    That he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."

    My best guess is that last hadith I just quoted that closes the deal. ;D

    =adley=

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      unknownuser
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      Salam Adley!

      aaaah sex drugs and rock n roll .... those monkeys !

      What's up with the 'prophet touching cheek to cheek until they got tired'? -\ weird...

      thanks for the info bro ... always fun to read ahadith rotfl

      Peace

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        phoenix1
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        aaaah sex drugs and rock n roll .... those monkeys ! Cheesy

        lol
        That's what Islam is all about. sex,drugs and rock n roll )

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          stoked_youth
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          WOW!! So according to Sunni belief, I will be turned into a pig (or a monkey) because I play the guitar. rotfl

          That's such an outrageous hadith. What if I play my guitar to praise God?

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            adley
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            Salaam all,

            Fun hadiths aren't they? ;D

            And Stoked_Youth, I too am a guitarist. So you can bet you'll have a company, if by any chance you're turned into a pig or a monkey ;D ;D ;D

            =adley=

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              then imagine what the fatwa on a guy who produce electronica with a special interest in Isreali trance, as yours truely, would sound like. ;D

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                unknownuser
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                looooool y'all are funny

                hehehe phoenix i know im a cheeseball ;D

                so what's going on with that hadith with the guy cheek to cheek with the prophet until they got tired?? i didn't get that one at all...

                peace

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                  if wearing of silk was so bad, why would God REWARD us with it. My conclusion lies attribute to a prophet.

                  peace

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                    The songs of Elvis Presley were considered "evil" by the older and religious folks. It probably worked this way during medieval Arabia.

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                      fatimah12
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                      Salaam

                      i like to ask you all here, How did Music become HARAM?
                      Why or how did music become HARAM?

                      Salaam,
                      In my opinion Music become HARAM when it convey HARAM topic.
                      Like so many music topic nowadays especially in west countries, lots of them talking about SEX, SEDUCTION, CHECKING ANOTHER MAN/WOMAN's BODY, etc. So powerful this kind of music and so popular till its like an encouraging thing to do such of sin that most people thing "NORMAL", even music that have sound of woman or man in intimate situation and the sadness thing is that those so-called music is so popular and have been listening by so many people.

                      Music in my opinion is HALAL as long as it contains good topic and HALAL like music to praise Allah, music about the struggle in life, parents etc
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                      But one of my friend asked me, what about Love song? is it HALAL or HARAM?

                      Salaam

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                        salaam

                        love song(s) are not haraam as long as there's no language or sexual references in my opinion.

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                          phoenix1
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                          peace

                          That still doesn't make the music haram. It all depends on the audience and the subject of the song. There is nothing wrong with a person loving another person, and there isn't anything wrong with writing a song about that (and singing it).
                          It's the same for sexual references.
                          We don't need some book or person giving us some rigid rule or law that we have to live by. We need to use the context of the situation to understand what is the best thing to do.

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                            unknownuser
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                            peace phoenix

                            you say there's nothing wrong w/ sexual references. I disagree. That only leads to disaster.

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                              phoenix1
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                              peace imran,

                              yes it does, in certain situations.
                              in other situations, it's perfectly fine.

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                                unknownuser
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                                peace phoenix

                                elaborate....

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  Peace

                                  Sexual references in songs are highly degrading to women. Objectifying women in any light, whether it be a song about sex or porn is haram. Even if one does not believe in 'rigid rules' at least show respect to the other half of society. I should add there are songs that objectify men also using sexual references. We as Submitters should live up to higher standards.
                                  Peace all

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                                    lovelymoslems
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                                    Anythings can be haram if so exegerated, but when all of it used to be a vehicle to devote God why not.

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                                      phoenix1
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                                      peace imran,

                                      a couple, singing songs to eachother or listening to songs with "sexual references" is not wrong. And sexual references don't necessarily mean objectifying women.
                                      I know there are songs that do that, and i don't support them.
                                      Sexual references might usually be wrong, but there are exceptions to every rule, that's all i meant.

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                                        peace phoenix

                                        give me examples. What kind of sexual references? And are there exceptions to every rule because you WANT exceptions to every rule?

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                                          ammarb87
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                                          I dont think its Haram cus ur not sayin anything bad to women! Just praising them in a way .. what about love songs about women? Its depends on how a person takes it .. what do ya guys think about it?

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