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Re: How did Music become HARAM?

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    unknownuser
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    looooool y'all are funny

    hehehe phoenix i know im a cheeseball ;D

    so what's going on with that hadith with the guy cheek to cheek with the prophet until they got tired?? i didn't get that one at all...

    peace

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      unknownuser
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      if wearing of silk was so bad, why would God REWARD us with it. My conclusion lies attribute to a prophet.

      peace

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        Tony
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        The songs of Elvis Presley were considered "evil" by the older and religious folks. It probably worked this way during medieval Arabia.

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          Salaam

          i like to ask you all here, How did Music become HARAM?
          Why or how did music become HARAM?

          Salaam,
          In my opinion Music become HARAM when it convey HARAM topic.
          Like so many music topic nowadays especially in west countries, lots of them talking about SEX, SEDUCTION, CHECKING ANOTHER MAN/WOMAN's BODY, etc. So powerful this kind of music and so popular till its like an encouraging thing to do such of sin that most people thing "NORMAL", even music that have sound of woman or man in intimate situation and the sadness thing is that those so-called music is so popular and have been listening by so many people.

          Music in my opinion is HALAL as long as it contains good topic and HALAL like music to praise Allah, music about the struggle in life, parents etc
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          But one of my friend asked me, what about Love song? is it HALAL or HARAM?

          Salaam

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            unknownuser
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            salaam

            love song(s) are not haraam as long as there's no language or sexual references in my opinion.

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              phoenix1
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              peace

              That still doesn't make the music haram. It all depends on the audience and the subject of the song. There is nothing wrong with a person loving another person, and there isn't anything wrong with writing a song about that (and singing it).
              It's the same for sexual references.
              We don't need some book or person giving us some rigid rule or law that we have to live by. We need to use the context of the situation to understand what is the best thing to do.

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                unknownuser
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                peace phoenix

                you say there's nothing wrong w/ sexual references. I disagree. That only leads to disaster.

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                  phoenix1
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                  peace imran,

                  yes it does, in certain situations.
                  in other situations, it's perfectly fine.

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                    unknownuser
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                    peace phoenix

                    elaborate....

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                      unknownuser
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                      Peace

                      Sexual references in songs are highly degrading to women. Objectifying women in any light, whether it be a song about sex or porn is haram. Even if one does not believe in 'rigid rules' at least show respect to the other half of society. I should add there are songs that objectify men also using sexual references. We as Submitters should live up to higher standards.
                      Peace all

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                        lovelymoslems
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                        Anythings can be haram if so exegerated, but when all of it used to be a vehicle to devote God why not.

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                          phoenix1
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                          peace imran,

                          a couple, singing songs to eachother or listening to songs with "sexual references" is not wrong. And sexual references don't necessarily mean objectifying women.
                          I know there are songs that do that, and i don't support them.
                          Sexual references might usually be wrong, but there are exceptions to every rule, that's all i meant.

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                            unknownuser
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                            peace phoenix

                            give me examples. What kind of sexual references? And are there exceptions to every rule because you WANT exceptions to every rule?

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                              ammarb87
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                              I dont think its Haram cus ur not sayin anything bad to women! Just praising them in a way .. what about love songs about women? Its depends on how a person takes it .. what do ya guys think about it?

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                                phoenix1
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                                peace imran,

                                example
                                "you have a sexy body, i want to f you" (if i get banned, you'll pay).
                                Can you think of no situation where this could be appropriate?
                                and why can't there be exceptions to rules?

                                p.s. I'm not as serious as i sound.

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                                  JahsWolf
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                                  If music is harram then David was lying in the last psalm of the book of psalms that is confirmed by the Quran as being sent from God.

                                  Read it.

                                  If Music is harram tell that to Cat Stevens who is now a muslim and is going to do a new tour to bridge the gap between the west and Islam.

                                  May God grant your heart His Peace

                                  Dow

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                                    unknownuser
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                                    peace

                                    we are not saying (at least i am not) that music is haram, i am talking about the content if the content is explicit in anyway than I believe it's 'haram' or at least a sin

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      if i get banned, you'll pay

                                      Haha, can't pay, can't afford to man. (If you think content is questionable you can always IM next time)

                                      Can you think of no situation where this could be appropriate?
                                      and why can't there be exceptions to rules?

                                      No I can't think of any. I didn't say that there shouldn't be exceptions to rules. I said there shouldn't be exceptions to EVERY rule.

                                      p.s. I'm not as serious as i sound.

                                      That's good. Laughter is great medicine. Why do you think I love family guy so much?

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                                        unknownuser
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                                        Peace

                                        Music is a beautiful expression. In no way could it be haram if done tastefully.

                                        Those lyrics you posted as an example, phoenix, are highly offensive so no there is no exception where it would be ok. if someone wants to say that to his wife, by all means, behind closed doors. the whole world doesn't have to know it. there's no need to have a song about it to poison the minds of little ones and make women feel insecure.

                                        Peace all

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                                          phoenix1
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                                          peace
                                          imran, s2s,
                                          i take back what i said. There are exceptions to SOME rules P
                                          this rule could be one of them.

                                          The situation i was thinking about was behind close doors in a private situation without children and without women who would be offended.
                                          But i guess it's a bit too unlikely for that to ever happen, so... peace

                                          But please understand that i was never defending the lyrics 50 cent uses.

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