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?Mode of life and glory? or ?donation and quadrangle?

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    Peace All,

    Lane?s Lexicon
    Hadiy (&#1610 A way, course, method, mode, or manner, of acting, or conduct, or proceeding, or the like; as also (&#1577 and (&#1577 and a good way, etc. and calm, or placid, deportment; or calmness, or placidity, of deportment; conduct, mode of life; manners

    ka3b (&#1576 means ?eminence, or nobility, and glory.
    Rajul 3alil - ka3bi ( &#1576 means a man eminent, or noble, and successful in his enterprises.

    Lisanul Arab

    Hadyu = mode of life, aspect, path
    ( &#1616
    Ahsanel hadyin hadyu Muhammad ay ahsanal tariq.
    The best mode of life is Muhammad?s the mode of life.
    The best path is Muhammad?s path.

    According to the above dictionary meanings of the words hadiy and ka3ba in my understanding the meaning of ( &#1616 hadyan balighal ka3bati is ?who reached glory in his mode of life?. And this expression is describing ( &#1618 ?two equitable persons from you? in verse 5.95

    So
    ( &#1616 (Dawa 3adlin mikum hadyan balighal ka3bati) means
    Two equitable persons from you who reached glory in their mode of life.

    In verse 5.95 hadiy has nothing to do with donation and ka3ba has nothing to do with Quadrangle.

    Peace

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      And please tell what the whole of it would mean. Thank you.

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        And please tell what the whole of it would mean. Thank you.

        Peace Mazhar,

        As far as i understand it should be

        O you who believe (who gives security to others), do not kill any game while you are restricted; and whosoever of you kills it deliberately, then the recompense is to value what was killed against the livestock, which shall be judged by two equitable persons from you who has reached glory in their mode of life, or, expiation by feeding the poor at a cost equal to the cost of the animal, or imposing self-abstinence for a number of days equally decided by the judges, that is to suffer the results of his deed; God forgives what has past. And whosoever returns, then God will seek vengeance from him. God is Almighty, Avenger.

        Peace

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          O you who believe (who gives security to others), do not kill any game while you are restricted;

          The whole English paragraph seems quite perplexing and a talk in the air, with this instruction, unless it is presumed that the restriction is imposed by a game warder to protect the endangered species.
          The restriction is only for and no prohibition on killing of other animals.
          The recompense adjudged by the two men "who have reached glory in their mode of life" shall be paid to whom?
          And "or, expiation by feeding the poor at a cost equal to the cost of the animal", it is one and the same thing like recompense adjudged by the said two men. It does not mean either of the two. Either of the two need to be different from each other.

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            peace Tlesph, all,

            I agree with you that "ka3ba" has nothing to do with "quadrangle". The evidence suggests it means "base", i.e. the base which everything else stands on / administration/regulation etc.

            Background reading
            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9022.msg48647#msg48647
            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9837.0

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              peace Tlesph, all,

              I agree with you that "ka3ba" has nothing to do with "quadrangle". The evidence suggests it means "base", i.e. the base which everything else stands on / administration/regulation etc.

              Background reading
              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9022.msg48647#msg48647
              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9837.0

              Peace Wakas,

              Thank you for your useful links. I believe I have to study the topic some more.

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