The quraan & the amazing bukhari
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Praise Bukhari jedi
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- Sahih Bukhary
Gaber Ibn Abdullah said the messenger of God was carrying rocks with them to the Kaaba while having his clothes on. His uncle Al Abbas suggested to him to lift his clothes up, so he did and so exposed himself. The messenger of God fell unconscious and was never seen naked again since then.
Wtf?! rotfl
- Hypocrisy nope
(57) DO NOT BUILD MASJIDS ON TOMBS
THEY DO NOT EVEN FOLLOW THEIR OWN CLAIMED HADITHS !!
Sahih Moslem
Abu Hurayra said, the messenger of God said; "Cursed are the Jews and the Christians, they made out of their prophet's tombs masajids (places for worship).<<
So, what did the Muslims do with Muhammed's tomb after his death ?, while claiming to believe in what is written in these hadiths books, they built a masjid on his tomb. Not only did they defy this commandments, if it was his, but added to the ritual of Hajj, that is supposed to be ABSOLUTELY to God ALONE, added to it a visit to Muhammed's tomb. This kind of visit is neither from God nor from Muhammed himself. He never visited his own tomb after his Hajj.
Is it any wonder that the prophet Muhammed will complain from them on the Day of Judgment, THAT THEY DESERTED THE QURAN ?see 2530.
- The ulema's (scholars' illiteracy contradiction
Sahih Bukhary
Qatada said; Anas said, "When the prophet Muhammed (PBUH) wanted to write to the Romans, he was told that they would not read a message unless it is stamped. He (Muhammed) took a stamp made of silver, I can see its bright whiteness in his hand and he engraved in it, "Muhammed the messenger of God"
In this Hadith Muhammed is mentioned writing his name on his own silver stamp. The rest of the hadiths books tried to picture Muhammed as an illiterate man who cannot read and write.
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The fact of the matter is Muhammad was literate and wrote the Quran according to God in the Quran. Of course the scholars were too busy with their hadith books and didn't know about this.
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- Sahih Bukhary
Gaber Ibn Abdullah said the messenger of God was carrying rocks with them to the Kaaba while having his clothes on. His uncle Al Abbas suggested to him to lift his clothes up, so he did and so exposed himself. The messenger of God fell unconscious and was never seen naked again since then.
Wtf?! rotfl
- Hypocrisy nope
(57) DO NOT BUILD MASJIDS ON TOMBS
THEY DO NOT EVEN FOLLOW THEIR OWN CLAIMED HADITHS !!
Sahih Moslem
Abu Hurayra said, the messenger of God said; "Cursed are the Jews and the Christians, they made out of their prophet's tombs masajids (places for worship).<<
So, what did the Muslims do with Muhammed's tomb after his death ?, while claiming to believe in what is written in these hadiths books, they built a masjid on his tomb. Not only did they defy this commandments, if it was his, but added to the ritual of Hajj, that is supposed to be ABSOLUTELY to God ALONE, added to it a visit to Muhammed's tomb. This kind of visit is neither from God nor from Muhammed himself. He never visited his own tomb after his Hajj.
Is it any wonder that the prophet Muhammed will complain from them on the Day of Judgment, THAT THEY DESERTED THE QURAN ?see 2530.
- The ulema's (scholars' illiteracy contradiction
Sahih Bukhary
Qatada said; Anas said, "When the prophet Muhammed (PBUH) wanted to write to the Romans, he was told that they would not read a message unless it is stamped. He (Muhammed) took a stamp made of silver, I can see its bright whiteness in his hand and he engraved in it, "Muhammed the messenger of God"
In this Hadith Muhammed is mentioned writing his name on his own silver stamp. The rest of the hadiths books tried to picture Muhammed as an illiterate man who cannot read and write.
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The fact of the matter is Muhammad was literate and wrote the Quran according to God in the Quran. Of course the scholars were too busy with their hadith books and didn't know about this.
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I'm still laughing at Muhammad writing to the Romans. Did they know Arabic too? rotfl
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That's what I was just thinking. They most likely had connections. There's a chapter called the Romans with the verse "the Romans will be defeated" in there, but it's not far-fetched to say there were Arabic speaking Romans.
Still though, I'm wondering what would he write to them about other than that he's the messenger of God.
Dear Romans,
I am the messenger of God, so obey me if you want to be saved on the day of reckoning. Stop worshipping Zeus. He does not exist.
(with the glowing silver stamp) MUHAMMAD, THE MESSENGER OF GOD rotfl rotfl rotfl
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Regarding Bukhari's sahih NONSENSE about Muhammad washing then telling his friends to drink the used water
Hadith #185 narrates that once the Holy Prophet asked for a bowl of water. He washed his hands and face in it. Then he rinsed his mouth in it and after that ordered Abu Musa and Bilal to drink the used water!
I thought about this a little more. This is just sick. You make ablution since you're in a dirty state. The water (since we're talking 600 AD in Arabia) is most likely already somewhat unsuitable to drink from, yet here Muhammad is washing the dirt off his hands, his face and rinsed his mouth of impurities. This is all the water now contains along with whatever it had prior to this. The $h1t would he tell Abu Musa or whatever to drink it for?! There is not one logical reason for this, period.
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wow
I suggest its name should be "looneyforum" laugh
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bravo rotfl
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Wow...read this ownage by Shah laugh
ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE AT ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They are NOT even the word of prophet Mohammad.
They are just words ATTRIBUTED (and falsely attributed) to Prophet Mohammad.
Neither the prophet NOR the companions EVER wrote any hadith.
The OLDEST !!!!!! manuscript of Hadith was of Hamam ibn-e-Mamba. This dates to approx. 48 years AFTER the death of prophet Mohammad. Hamam ibn-e-Mamba was the student of Abu-Huraira. He wrote the hadiths from him. This script contains ONLY !!! - 138 hadiths. No more. And this was an individual effort privately. Not by Govt. Also, this was done, when Abu-Huraira was exposed as a corrupt person and admitted the frauds of over 40 thousand dinars. He was fired by Umar.
The next scripts that appear are by "Malik" and date to around 150 Hijri (140 yrs. after the death of prophet Mohammad). The first compilation of Malik's Mawtta contained 10,000 hadiths (collected from Medina). Which he himself slashed to approx. 700. These days different versions of Mawtta can be found in the market with a range of hadiths from 300 to 700.
After that came Hanbal's compilation "Musnad Hanbal".
Then it was followed by the Six so called Authentic compilations. The first and believed to be the most authentic is "Bukhari", compiled by "Bukhari" who was BORN in 194 hijri (i.e. 184 years after the death of Mohammad). Bukhari roamed about in Iraq collecting hadiths and according to his own prefaces, he collected over 660,000 hadiths (in Iraq). Out of that he slashed off the +98% and decided to include only 7,257 hadiths in his compilation.
Even the compilation of Bukhari was not final, NOR was the set of six was final. For 200 years later to Bukhari, Malik's Mawtta was included among the six as the authentics. But after that, Malik's Mawtta was excluded from the six and "Ibn-e-Maja's" compilation (which was earlier considered as unreliable) was included in the six, in place of Malik's Mawtta.
Even Bukhari's compilation underwent changes even after Bukhari. For 200 years, we see different versions of Bukhari, with some hadiths entering it and some leaving it and then re-entering it. As a result today, u can find different versions of Bukhari in the market, with range of 7,257 to 9028 hadiths in it.
Such crap is considered as the word of God, by the majority of Muslims today. No wonder, why they are being punished by Allah so heavily.
Taken from http//answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080923192541AA8R62E
And look, if it isn't Abul Haarith trying to defend his hadiths laugh seriously though just read his (primitive) argument. It's strange how points brought up by people like Shah are never really addressed by the defenders of the alleged sunna of Muhammad, but it's odd because it does not seem such people know the Quran much. even if the hadith are all accurate and represent the sunna of Muhammad 100%, what does God say in the Quran? The sunna of God (not the sunna of Muhammad unless you think he is or equal to God) is the only sunna you will find. So, why are we saying at all "the sunna of Muhammad?" Can't we just declare that the only sunna is that of God's? The strange thing is that they declare the Quran is the word of God whereas the Hadith is the word of Muhammad INSPIRED by God. This in turn should actually mean the Quran AND THE HADITH are the words of God, though why are they intent on making this separation? Why are they scared of saying the Quran and the hadith are both divine revelations from the lord? Does anyone find this rather strange? Why do they claim they put the Quran above the hadith? You don't seem to be worshipping one God when you say divine words come from ONE SOURCE and from another (a prophet in this case) for if the words were "divinely inspired", by definition they would NOT be the words of the human (Muhammad) and would be from God, but why didn't Muhammad write it down? If they are the words of God JUST like the Quran is, it wouldn't make sense for Muhammad to just write part of God's words and not the rest, but a bit of thinking would tell any sincere believer the alleged hadith is nothing but rubbish.
The big problem with the sunni muslims is they believe the hadith are basically an extention of the Quran. This only stems from real ignorance of the Quran and its teachings.
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God says in the Quran he's completed it, or that his word has been completed. Therefore there is no "extention of the Quran" especially if they were not even written down by the prophet who wrote the Quran, as confirmed in the Quran.
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If the Quran says it left "nothing out of it", it being the BOOK (and the verse's context doesn't give it a different meaning as many sunnis have been claiming, not that this verse is even needed to prove my point) there can be no so called extention of the final testament.
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There's no sense in God sending down what he calls the FINAL REVELATION and let some imams 200 years after the death of the prophet choose which and which aren't the correct sayings of the prophet by gathering literally hundreds of thousands of hadith THEN NARROWING THEM DOWN to 1% or less and call it "the extention of God's final testament" because after all, the hadith are "divinely inspired" which would mean they are the words of God as well. A religion relying on such weak sources is only a religion of falsehood and isn't approved or beloved to God at all..
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"Shall I seek a law source other than God when he has sent down this detailed book"? And if you want to tell me "detailed" isn't the same as "fully detailed" then good luck in trying to prove God meant something is detailed yet needs some clarification by a prophet whom God tells elsewhere in the quran to NOT elaborate on at all ("do not make haste with your tongue with it, upon as us the revealing of it".
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The following reason alone is sufficient. "Which other hadith will you believe in?" and "what other book do you learn from?" are clear commandments (in question form) telling the believers of the Quran to stick to the Quran. If you believe in OTHER HADITHS (sayings) or seek refuge in OTHER BOOKS (BUKHSHIT & MUSLIM THE FAIL, just to name two) you're not believing in the Quran. There are many other verses that, if understood correctly, will make it clear that the Quran is the only thing. When God says Muhammad was not astray and was not speaking out of desire, and that IT (not, THEY) was a divine inspiration, he could have meant ONE THING, not two (Quran and sunna) so which one do you think it is? The sunna? Good luck believing that.
And this reply is good also. Taken from http//answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080829084020AAiuuFT
Do all hadith'ite bookshelves have the 6 sahih books next to the quran?
Apparently the quran can't make sense without the 6 authentic hadith books. When I enter a hadith'ites house and ask him "where's your hadith collection?", they say "what?". I stay silent, as I know they won't change their ways.How many hadith'ites have all 6 hadith collections on their bookshelves, or have read all 6 collections with each hadith ranked from strong to weak?
Enlighten me please, if ye be truthrful.
He makes a rather good point. Sunni's do not even know what is and isn't the complete authentic hadith of Muhammad, and in many cases, do not have the 6 collections of hadith in their homes! WTF?!! That's like Quranites not having the complete Quran! rotfl
It's funny how the so called scholars of Islam cannot come to an agreement as to what is actually the religion of Islam when they're supposedly the most firm with knowledge of the "right path." nope
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- Sahih Bukhary
Gaber Ibn Abdullah said the messenger of God was carrying rocks with them to the Kaaba while having his clothes on. His uncle Al Abbas suggested to him to lift his clothes up, so he did and so exposed himself. The messenger of God fell unconscious and was never seen naked again since then.
Wtf?! rotfl
2. Hypocrisy nope
(57) DO NOT BUILD MASJIDS ON TOMBS
THEY DO NOT EVEN FOLLOW THEIR OWN CLAIMED HADITHS !!
Sahih Moslem
Abu Hurayra said, the messenger of God said; "Cursed are the Jews and the Christians, they made out of their prophet's tombs masajids (places for worship).<<
So, what did the Muslims do with Muhammed's tomb after his death ?, while claiming to believe in what is written in these hadiths books, they built a masjid on his tomb. Not only did they defy this commandments, if it was his, but added to the ritual of Hajj, that is supposed to be ABSOLUTELY to God ALONE, added to it a visit to Muhammed's tomb. This kind of visit is neither from God nor from Muhammed himself. He never visited his own tomb after his Hajj.
Is it any wonder that the prophet Muhammed will complain from them on the Day of Judgment, THAT THEY DESERTED THE QURAN ?see 2530.
3. The ulema's (scholars' illiteracy contradiction
Sahih Bukhary
Qatada said; Anas said, "When the prophet Muhammed (PBUH) wanted to write to the Romans, he was told that they would not read a message unless it is stamped. He (Muhammed) took a stamp made of silver, I can see its bright whiteness in his hand and he engraved in it, "Muhammed the messenger of God"
In this Hadith Muhammed is mentioned writing his name on his own silver stamp. The rest of the hadiths books tried to picture Muhammed as an illiterate man who cannot read and write.
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The fact of the matter is Muhammad was literate and wrote the Quran according to God in the Quran. Of course the scholars were too busy with their hadith books and didn't know about this.
-MPeace,
Respectfully.This is the best post ever!
I atotally agree with you and i think thios should be said to the sunni everytime one meets him or her.
I think we should tlak to sunni women more often about such ahdith then men, because sunni women tend to be more intelligent. No sunni woman has ever made a threat to me and i think that's a plus.Even mentioning the name of messenger Muhammad makes sunnis very angry because they think they are the only ones who should be talking about him.
Of course when i mention bukhary, they think of him as highly as though he was the messenger or something.Peace.
- Sahih Bukhary
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Another WIERD hadith http//youthmatters.wordpress.com/2009/04/12/erase-2500-sins-a-day-in-less-than-15-minutes/
Erase 2500 Sins A Day in Less than 15 Minutes
When you go to bed, glorify Him and praise Him and magnify Him one hundred times that will be one hundred on the tongue and a thousand in the scales. Who among you does two thousand and five hundred sayi?aat (bad deeds) in one day?? They said ?How could we not count (our sins)?? He said ?The Shaytaan comes to any one of you whilst he is praying and says, Remember this, remember that, until he finishes his prayer and does not do (this dhikr), or he comes to him when he is lying down and makes him sleepy, until he falls asleep (without doing this dhikr).?? (Abu ?Eesaa said This is a hasan saheeh hadeeth. Sunan al-Tirmidhi, 3332).
Points of Benefit
Oh give me a ******* break! How idiotic is it to believe that by committing 2500 sins in less than 15 minutes (srsly who the hell does that anyway?) you can be forgiven by saying "praise God" 2500 times? Ok...I didn't think the sunni religion was THIS easy...
If I was bad enough, I'll
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Commit adultery with 237 women
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Steal 53 cars, 24 tv sets and 12 ipods
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Murder 697 people
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Beat my wife 421 times
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Burn 1,056 houses down
All in less than 15 minutes.
For the next 15 minutes I will say "praise god" 2500 times.
Problem solved! Starting off with a clean slate. ;D
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Another WIERD hadith http//youthmatters.wordpress.com/2009/04/12/erase-2500-sins-a-day-in-less-than-15-minutes/
Erase 2500 Sins A Day in Less than 15 Minutes
When you go to bed, glorify Him and praise Him and magnify Him one hundred times that will be one hundred on the tongue and a thousand in the scales. Who among you does two thousand and five hundred sayi?aat (bad deeds) in one day?? They said ?How could we not count (our sins)?? He said ?The Shaytaan comes to any one of you whilst he is praying and says, Remember this, remember that, until he finishes his prayer and does not do (this dhikr), or he comes to him when he is lying down and makes him sleepy, until he falls asleep (without doing this dhikr).?? (Abu ?Eesaa said This is a hasan saheeh hadeeth. Sunan al-Tirmidhi, 3332).
Points of Benefit
Oh give me a ******* break! How idiotic is it to believe that by committing 2500 sins in less than 15 minutes (srsly who the hell does that anyway?) you can be forgiven by saying "praise God" 2500 times? Ok...I didn't think the sunni religion was THIS easy...
If I was bad enough, I'll- Commit adultery with 237 women
- Steal 53 cars, 24 tv sets and 12 ipods
- Murder 697 people
- Beat my wife 421 times
- Burn 1,056 houses down
All in less than 15 minutes.
For the next 15 minutes I will say "praise god" 2500 times.
Problem solved! Starting off with a clean slate. ;D
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Glory be to our God, The Most Merciful.Peace.
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For the record, it's not from Bukhari...but from Tirmidhi.
Thank God Bukh. isn't THAT stupid.
Wait...he did think no new human would come 100 years after Muhammad even though it's been 1400 years since and he wrote this hadith 200 years after his death. What a retard indeed. laugh
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