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The decisive difference between God's party and Satan's party

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    Rami
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    The main difference between the two groups is that one believes in an afterlife, the other doesn't. This has great impact on how they deal with their money.

    The Criminals think that hoarding unto wealth is clever, usury is like trade and there is no reason to spend money on the poor because if God had willed he would have fed them Himself. This behaviour is condemned in the Quran as an obstruction to God's way.

    Regarding Usury.

    2275 Those who consume usury do not rise except as one being influenced by the devils touch. That is because they have said Trade is the same as usury. While God has made trade lawful, and He has forbidden usury. Whoever has received understanding from His Lord and ceases, then he will be forgiven for what was before this and his case will be with God. But whoever returns, then they are the people of the Fire, in it they will abide eternally.
    2276 God condemns usury, and He grants growth to the charities. And God does not like any wicked sinner.
    2278 O you who believe, be aware of God and give up what is left from usury, if you are truly believers.
    3130 O you who believe, do not consume usury, compounding over and over; and revere God that you may succeed.
    4161 And for their taking of usury, while they were told not to do so, and for their consuming peoples money unjustly. We have prepared for the disbelievers amongst them a painful retribution.
    3039 And any usury you have taken to grow from the peoples money, it will not grow with God. And any contribution that you have placed seeking His presence, then those will be multiplied.

    Regarding hoarding of wealth and feeding the poor.

    934 O you who believe, many of the Priests and Monks consume peoples money in falsehood, and they turn away from the path of God. And those who hoard gold and silver, and do not spend it in the cause of God, give them news of a painful retribution.
    935 On the Day when they will be seared in the fires of Hell, and their foreheads and sides and backs will be branded with it This is what you have hoarded for yourselves, so taste what you have hoarded!
    7018 And who hoarded and counted.
    1021 Hoarding has distracted you.

    3647 And when they are told Spend from what God has provisioned you. Those who reject say to those who believe Shall we feed those whom God could feed, if He so willed? You are clearly misguided!

    This verse is crucial to understand what the cause of God is. It is all about spending from your fruits of labor on the needy, the poor and the orphans.

    Actually the criminal when he comes to God, God will inform him of the two mistakes that he had done.

    6933 For he did not believe in God, the Great.
    6934 Nor did he advocate the feeding of the poor.

    7444 And we did not feed the poor person.
    8918 And you do not look to feeding the poor.
    1073 And does not encourage the feeding of the poor.

    Sadly, most Muslims adopted usury and doesn't give to charity and hoard unto wealth as if they were eternal.

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      thegod
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      rami-as if they were eternal.

      ma'a salaam.

      God bless all.

      al'hamd li Allaah Rabb al'aalameen

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        Alen
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        Peace,
        Respectfully.

        Apparently i'm gonna repeat myself again we only talk about this. We should (here i go again) do something to prevent this. We should stop just saying how many problems this society has or what's next gonna happen and so on.

        I keep asking - rarely do i get answers - how exactly are we gonna solve this one? How are we gonna solve this problem? Muslim community - the real one, that's us - must then make a step forward and become better. Because from what i'm seeing, .... we're being outnumbered.

        I'm not piling up money.
        I know that central London Mosque is piling it.
        So, what do we do?
        Because i already have ananswer to this problem ....

        Glory be to our God.
        Peace.

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          Samia
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          The main difference between the two groups is that one believes in an afterlife, the other doesn't. This has great impact on how they deal with their money.

          Agree. But what about those who do not have money in the first place? Are they automatically in God' party?

          Sadly, most Muslims adopted usury and doesn't give to charity and hoard unto wealth as if they were eternal.

          The problem is that they still believe in the hereafter !

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            Rami
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            Agree. But what about those who do not have money in the first place? Are they automatically in God' party?

            Depends who they live with. If they live with the rejectors, they are with them. If they refuse but can't escape, God may show mercy on them. The believers must fight to get them out. Lets read some verses.

            475 And why do you not fight in the cause of God, when the weak amongst the men and women and children Say "Our Lord, bring us out of this town whose people are wicked, and grant us from Yourself a Supporter, and grant us from Yourself a Victor!"

            497 Those whom the Angels take, while they had wronged their souls; they said "What situation were you in?", they said "We were oppressed on Earth." They said "Was God's Earth not wide enough that you could emigrate in it?" To these their abode will be Hell; what a miserable destiny!

            498 Except for those who were oppressed from the men, women, and children who could not devise a plan nor could be guided to a way.

            The problem is that they still believe in the hereafter !

            If they really believed, they wouldn't have done what they are doing. When you believe in God and the hereafter, you have to believe in their correct concepts to count.

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              Rami
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              Peace,
              Respectfully.

              Apparently i'm gonna repeat myself again we only talk about this. We should (here i go again) do something to prevent this. We should stop just saying how many problems this society has or what's next gonna happen and so on.

              I keep asking - rarely do i get answers - how exactly are we gonna solve this one? How are we gonna solve this problem? Muslim community - the real one, that's us - must then make a step forward and become better. Because from what i'm seeing, .... we're being outnumbered.

              I'm not piling up money.
              I know that central London Mosque is piling it.
              So, what do we do?
              Because i already have ananswer to this problem ....

              Glory be to our God.
              Peace.

              TOTAL WAR.

              You can't talk your way through it.

              Be prepared.

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