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    HP_TECH
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    Lol, not far enough brony...

    I don't want to seem like a pest...but...are you compelled to ignore me?

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      imrankhawaja
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      @ sinem yeh in my country there are lot of these people , they have different names, like khusra, hejra, khawjasira,

      are you talking about them, but if u know they are males they makeup in such a way they looks womens or trans

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        imrankhawaja
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        their names are most likely ,

        fareeda rakshay wala,

        naveed bablee,

        zakoota kukri faroosh,

        hameeda kothay tapni,

        i know one of them was my frd he used to make up like womens and used to earn money by dancing in wedding parties ,

        hahaha one funny situation one of them get gang rape once but police was unable to identify what gender they write in FIR so they write gender unknown

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          HP_TECH
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          I genuinely appreciate this comment and i do not blame you for mixing us up. No i do not have any relation to Aisha and she seems to be inactive today. I just bumped upon the topic she created some years ago by googling my questions, because it was relevant to me. So far i've had lot of answers to my questions, and i do not regret considering islam. The way i read it, it matches up to the reality.
          I totally expected having to go into some arguments and even though it is hard to not lose my patience when some people are ignorant about the real world, it's a good preparation for when i go public with my transition, because i'll always have to face such opposition. Therefore avoiding opposition is not the right thing. God is testing me if i'm truly a woman by putting my trough these trails, and it makes perfect sense that he does so. It's by no means fun, but i'm accepting the challenge. The other test is being totally honest with my close ones, and i'm doing that too.
          I apologise for any bold statements. Yet though i still think your points towards Aisha weren't really helpful to her either (if she were able to read it). I think my suggestion towards her of 'wait until your kid is an adult' was something we can both agree on though. Correct me if i'm wrong.

          Please await patiently, I will if Allah so wills come forth with a response fit for your questions in due time.

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            savage_carrot
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            The female word would be 'pegasister'. Gosh, i lost all my credibility now, did i? ;D I suppose you're not actually muslim but a haruhiist?

            I think I'd prefer to be called brony since the female version is even worse! Don't worry about it, lost mine a long time back, and... I actually liked that anime back in the day laugh

            their names are most likely ,

            fareeda rakshay wala,

            naveed bablee,

            zakoota kukri faroosh,

            hameeda kothay tapni,

            i know one of them was my frd he used to make up like womens and used to earn money by dancing in wedding parties ,

            hahaha one funny situation one of them get gang rape once but police was unable to identify what gender they write in FIR so they write gender unknown

            What are you talking about...their names are most likely etc? These are their individual stage names or whatever they use to ply their trade, it's not 'most likely'. Not all such people are in that trade neither do they have these types of names. And that is not really a funny situation.

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              imrankhawaja
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              And that is not really a funny situation.

              lolx ooh i did not told you about the details, actually one of them was agree to do jigi jigi with one of the visitor who like the dance of that male/female version but during the process he could not finalise it becoz he was thinking something else , so he told to that dancer its cheating now give money back or give half servcice to one of my friend in return, dancer refused it and they get fighting , his makeup was like womens but his punches in self defence was fully male version punches rotfl rotfl

              and police was in confusion what is this case rotfl people who try to make fun of nature and system they face consequences,

              one more thing i know personally one of them and he have his own kids from a women , day time he is full make version night time he dance , i asked y you doing this then he said profession of earning money,

              and anyboody remeber indian movie saddak(road) in which maharani played this role she was brotherl head,

              and according to hadith or fatwa, if you irritate or tease anyone of them , your wishes never get fullfill and they will give you bad dua. something like curse, voodoo

              and its nothing funny but i cant help it, for me its totally funny.depend on the taste of humor

              there are some of them who engage in sex for money and inreturn they give you sex and massage both, a combination of relaxation ,lol

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                savage_carrot
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                and police was in confusion what is this case people who try to make fun of nature and system they face consequences

                So...gang rape is a consequence of transvestites 'making fun of nature and system'? Right. I'm not really sure what is more amusing, the glaring disconnect or the lack of self awareness of how one comes across. I guess it would depend on the taste of humor. Some may even find it sad however.

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                  imrankhawaja
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                  So...gang rape is a consequence of transvestites 'making fun of nature and system'? Right. I'm not really sure what is more amusing, the glaring disconnect or the lack of self awareness of how one comes across. I guess it would depend on the taste of humor. Some may even find it sad however.

                  my brother , you are making me laugh again, i did not say gang rape is the consequences of making fun of nature,

                  i was telling you the situation in which all these things happen and they confused in nature of fir, in the law of country there was only two genders , male female, so they write unkown gender in FIR and it was not gang rape at all , it was more likely you can say undisputed business between two males and one unkown gender, and reuslt finsih in fight, so ploice catch them, then the funny sitaution started before it was sad i agree, lol

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                    So no one actually got gang raped. The word was used just for effect apparently. Lest it sound like I'm disappointed, I'm not, more relieved but then there's the issue of your wording that means something else entirely to you other than what it reads as. I feel cheated. And violated by this egregious misuse. At least the multiple commas stopped, thank you. My mother always told me to look on the bright side.

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      So no one actually got gang raped. The word used for just for effect apparently. Lest it sound like I'm disappointed, I'm not, more relieved but then there's the issue of your wording that means something else entirely to you other than what it reads as. I feel cheated. And violated by this egregious misuse. At least the multiple commas stopped, thank you. My mother always told me to look on the bright side.

                      Red no it was attempted gang rape but grounds of case was different as i told you thats y police get confuse.

                      and sorry for the commas ,

                      and my mother always told me the same thing, see you forget the teaching of your mother and think about my wrong side.lol just kidding,

                      the incident was not funny, but the situation was funny.

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                        imrankhawaja
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                        after that particular case and lot more cases finally the government of pakistan introduce a law in which these gender get full rights in every aspect of life. they can do proper job now and other facilities like letting land and these type of stuff,

                        now in the revised law of gender paksitan recognise these type of people same as normal male female.

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                          savage_carrot
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                          Look, I'm not sure why I'm attempting to explain this rape of the English language but I am. Why didn't you just write attempted gang rape then instead of "hahaha one funny situation one of them get gang rape once but police was unable to identify what gender they write in FIR so they write gender unknown", then you say " no it was attempted gang rape grounds of case was different as i told you thats y police get confuse"...when you had said "and they confused in nature of fir" = "unable to identify what gender they write in FIR so they write gender unknown" etc! It's like you write something and then say it's totally something else...and the reader is totally an idiot for misreading you. What does 'grounds of case' mean to you? Nature of the incident or the gender confusion? It's probably the latter which doesn't make any sense or totally something else but whatever. I regret nothing.

                          I didn't forget that's why I wrote it! That's it though, I've had it. I'm going to think it's opposite day when responding to you

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            Look, I'm not sure why I'm attempting to explain this rape of the English language but I am. Why didn't you just write attempted gang rape then instead of "hahaha one funny situation one of them get gang rape once but police was unable to identify what gender they write in FIR so they write gender unknown", then you say " no it was attempted gang rape grounds of case was different as i told you thats y police get confuse"...when you had said "and they confused in nature of fir" = "unable to identify what gender they write in FIR so they write gender unknown" etc! It's like you write something and then say it's totally something else...and the reader is totally an idiot for misreading you. What does 'grounds of case' mean to you? Nature of the incident or the gender confusion? It's probably the latter which doesn't make any sense or totally something else but whatever. I regret nothing.

                            I didn't forget that's why I wrote it! That's it though, I've had it. I'm going to think it's opposite day when responding to you

                            my brother first of all thanx for making my day full of laughs i hope it increase my blood amount.

                            second when i was addressing this issue my focus was to tell readers about gender unkown thats y its seems funny , i was not thinking somebody will tear the skin of hair, and i have to expalin all of the event .

                            and in writing if i write rape case or attempted rape case its dosenst change the basic subject gender unknown, i was not thinking there are investigators of errors sitting here as well.

                            day are just days opposite or similar time will pass anyway so lets pass it in laughs lolxx peace

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                              Bender
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                              my brother

                              rotfl

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                rotfl

                                bender u are very naughty, i think he is not male, becoz its first time i m encountring mr or miss savage carrot , and i just check his/her profile nothing gender mention there. see thats what happen when u try to uncover the skin of hair.lolx

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                                  savage_carrot
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                                  rotfl

                                  Tonight

                                  my brother first of all thanx for making my day full of laughs i hope it increase my blood amount.second when i was addressing this issue my focus was to tell readers about gender unkown thats y its seems funny , i was not thinking somebody will tear the skin of hair, and i have to expalin all of the event .and in writing if i write rape case or attempted rape case its dosenst change the basic subject gender unknown, i was not thinking there are investigators of errors sitting here as well. day are just days opposite or similar time will pass anyway so lets pass it in laughs lolxx peace

                                  Instead of accepting you were unclear, you're blaming the reader? That is funny. Let's increase blood counts together, hopefully that doesn't mean murder or...attempted murder.

                                  bender u are very naughty, i think he is not male, becoz its first time i m encountring mr or miss savage carrot , and i just check his/her profile nothing gender mention there. see thats what happen when u try to uncover the skin of hair.lolx

                                  It's not the first time, oh sorry, you actually mean you've encountered me before but silly readers...they always misunderstand, don't they. Skin of hair lol.

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                                    imrankhawaja
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                                    actually i m bit confuse now, savvage carrot are you female ?
                                    so that i will make sure myself who i m talking with.

                                    and what tonight with bender, lolx something looking fishy here

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                                      savage_carrot
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                                      actually i m bit confuse now, savvage carrot are you female ?
                                      so that i will make sure myself who i m talking with.
                                      You really don't need to make sure. Really. I'm alright with that. Honest. Words speak louder than gender as it is, isn't that the moral of the story?

                                      and what tonight with bender, lolx something looking fishy here
                                      Definitely fishy. And night. Sleep. Sleeping with the fishies! perchance to dream?

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                                        imrankhawaja
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                                        You really don't need to make sure. Really. I'm alright with that. Honest. Words speak louder than gender as it is, isn't that the moral of the story?Definitely fishy. And night. Sleep. Sleeping with the fishies! perchance to dream?

                                        so i understand you are a fishy fish , lol , fish with fishy morals becoz honesty is the best policy , and why you avoiding of giving me an answer of mysterious gender , is it not a friendly way to kknow eachother on forum who is male and who is female, and who is in between , lol

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                                          savage_carrot
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                                          Simple, because you should pay attention to words not gender as far as I'm concerned. And no, it is not a friendly way, it's a creepy a/s/l way. Have a nice day

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