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Which is superior by status ?

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    Q_student
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    Salaam all
    The Quran could not change Code 19
    But Code 19 could change the Quran by throwing out two verses.

    Which is superior in status ?
    -Quran
    -Or Code 19?

    Is this Shirk Billahi ?

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      almarh0m
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      Peace Q_student

      "Muslim" and " Believers" believe in The Qur'an in its Entirety , so if Code 19 people believe that The Message of God can be tempered with (i.e. add to and subtracted from ) then they would have Dis-believed in the clear message particularly after what The God has said in 159 and 6115 . Do you really need the answer as to which is Superior ?

      Peace

      almarh0m

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        Peace Q_student

        "Muslim" and " Believers" believe in The Qur'an in its Entirety , so if Code 19 people believe that The Message of God can be tempered with (i.e. add to and subtracted from ) then they would have Dis-believed in the clear message particularly after what The God has said in 159 and 6115 . Do you really need the answer as to which is Superior ?

        Peace

        almarh0m

        Salaam
        Code 19 is a clear Shirk.

        Regards

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          Edip_Yuksel
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          Salaam all
          The Quran could not change Code 19
          But Code 19 could change the Quran by throwing out two verses.

          Which is superior in status ?
          -Quran
          -Or Code 19?

          Is this Shirk Billahi ?

          When you ask a wrong question (question with false premises and assumptions), surely you will get wrong answer. Here is an alternative question

          Which one is superior?

          God's testimony through its prophetic numerical sign that is miraculously embedded in every element of its numerically coded book (kitabun marqum), OR the testimony of a crowd that has abandoned the Quran for the sake of hearsay fabrications?

          Peace,
          Edip

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            drfazl
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            The question could be this way too

            Which is necessary?

            Whether the substance in Quran?
            Or the presence of 19 in Quran?

            Whether to take the Guidance of the verses?
            Or to count the numbers in the verses?

            Do you want to be in the nearness of Allah?
            Or want to be pleading with the 19 Guardians of hell?

            Whether to assess Quran verses based on concurrence and contradiction?
            Or counting on the numerics of it?

            In 9 128 and in 9 129, every part of the each verse has concurrence with the numerous other verses of Quran, without any contradiction even in parts. As Allah had ordained upon us to assess Quran only in this way, and in accordance with the 4 82, the said ayats are very much in the original.

            Peace.

            .

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              Q_student
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              When you ask a wrong question (question with false premises and assumptions), surely you will get wrong answer. Here is an alternative question

              Which one is superior?

              God's testimony through its prophetic numerical sign that is miraculously embedded in every element of its numerically coded book (kitabun marqum), OR the testimony of a crowd that has abandoned the Quran for the sake of hearsay fabrications?

              Peace,
              Edip

              Peace Edip
              First you answer my question then I will answer yours.
              Regards

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                Jafar
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                Salaam all
                The Quran could not change Code 19
                But Code 19 could change the Quran by throwing out two verses.

                Which is superior in status ?
                -Quran
                -Or Code 19?

                But God can change everything..
                Thus GOD is more superior than Quran or Code 19.

                The 'verses' he wrote all over this universe is those that cannot be replicated / duplicated / falsified by anyone..

                And anyone had a full rights to believe whatever they want.. based on his observation, knowledge and faith..
                Yet Truth stands out clear from Error..

                There are signs for those who understands..
                And for those who seek, there will be an answer..

                Peace / Salam

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