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Stoning Punishment in the Bible

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    Q_student
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    Brother Salaam
    It means you are reluctant to answer this question in "Yes or No"
    It only happenes when one is not clear about it and wants to keeps statement ambigous.
    Ok bye on this topic on this thread.
    Regards

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      unknownuser
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      Peace,

      It means you are reluctant to answer this question in "Yes or No"
      It only happenes when one is not clear about it and wants to keeps statement ambigous.

      No, your question was not complete, nor do you give answers only ambiguous questions.

      Define which Bible?

      If you are implying the Catholic Bible authenticated approved as divine by Constantine and the Nicene Council (325 CE) which contains the writings of Paul and verses as below the answer is NO!

      Deuteronomy 2223-24
      If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city.

      John 19
      17 and bearing his cross, he went forth to the place called Place of a Skull, which is called in Hebrew Golgotha; 18 where they crucified him, and with him two others, on this side, and on that side, and Jesus in the midst.

      To be honest I still do not know what he is saying.

      Exactly this...

      confirm

      ?verb

      1. to establish the truth, accuracy, validity, or genuineness.

      Qur?an contains within it the true, accurate, valid, genuine Taur?t and Injeel.

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        Q_student
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        Salaam
        Is therer genuine Tauraat and injeel which aslo contained in the Qruan ?
        Where do you get the concept that Tauraat and injeel areincluded in the Quran ?

        Where do I get Yousaf Najjar 's relationship with Marry in the Quran?
        Regards

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          unknownuser
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          Salaam,

          Is therer genuine Tauraat and injeel which aslo contained in the Qruan ?
          Where do you get the concept that Tauraat and injeel areincluded in the Quran ?

          12111

          In their narration (stories there) had been an example to those of the pure minds/hearts (it) was not a speech (hadeethan) to be fabricated and but confirmation (to) which (is) between His hands and clarifying every thing, and guidance, and mercy to (a) nation believing.

          Why repeat the stories in Qur'an other than to clarify the truth?

          Where do I get Yousaf Najjar 's relationship with Marry in the Quran?

          Why you need this information, does not surah Maryam and rest of Qur'an suffice?

          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5aIi3OqOJU

          Regards

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            Meteora
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            Just a theory, but...

            Ibn Hanbal is one of the hadith narrators I believe.

            ....Hannibal is a Greek name.

            Stoning and things related to stones are found in Greek mythology. Hmm....

            Are there any other Arabic names that sound Greek? Perhaps that's where the paganism came from in Islam.

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              Rami
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              Just a theory, but...

              Ibn Hanbal is one of the hadith narrators I believe.

              ....Hannibal is a Greek name.

              Stoning and things related to stones are found in Greek mythology. Hmm....

              Are there any other Arabic names that sound Greek? Perhaps that's where the paganism came from in Islam.

              What about stoning in the Torah? All the freak laws in the Hadiths seems to be Torah based.

              Could it be that the Greeks wrote the Torah during Alexander the Great?

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                unknownuser
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                Could it be that the Greeks wrote the Torah during Alexander the Great?

                All that is known about Alexander was written hundreds of years after the fact.

                ? Plutarch, Life of Alexander
                http//classics.mit.edu/Plutarch/alexandr.html
                ? Arrian of Nicomedia, History of Alexander.
                ? Quintus Curtius Rufus, The History of Alexander
                ? Diodorus of Sicily Universal History

                What is portrayed is the persona and ideology of the writers mostly not much different than hadith literature.

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                  Meteora
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                  I think the time period between Ancient Egypt and Greece is about a 1000 years, with Egypt being first.

                  The Torah could have been altered somewhere around the time of the Greeks, which I believe stoning originated from.

                  Stoning made it's way into Christianity and then Islam.

                  What I just find interesting is Hanbal is pretty much a Greek name.

                  I think Muslim was simply a fraud who used that name to be accepted.

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                    Meteora
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                    Ibn Hanbal will be one of the dwellers of the fire.

                    BURN!!!! voodoo

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                      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                      What about stoning in the Torah? All the freak laws in the Hadiths seems to be Torah based.

                      Could it be that the Greeks wrote the Torah during Alexander the Great?

                      rotfl

                      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                        Rev_John
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                        What about stoning in the Torah? All the freak laws in the Hadiths seems to be Torah based.

                        Could it be that the Greeks wrote the Torah during Alexander the Great?

                        No, that is not possible, the Torah was in existence before Alexander

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                          Rami
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                          No, that is not possible, the Torah was in existence before Alexander

                          Do you have any proof? Do you have any Torah text before Alexander the Great?

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                            Rev_John
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                            Do you have any proof? Do you have any Torah text before Alexander the Great?

                            Not personally, no. But do you have a text written by Alexander?

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                              Meteora
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                              Ibn Hanbal will be one of the dwellers of the fire.

                              BURN!!!! voodoo

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                                Rami
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                                Not personally, no. But do you have a text written by Alexander?

                                No.

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  No.

                                  hmm handshake

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