What is the meaning and function of إِنَّمَا in the Following Verse ?

[Q_student]

Salaam
No comments ?

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[ramzi]

Salaam,

I feel it means 'however'.

'However what has been made unlawful unto you ......'

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[Q_student]

Salaam,

I feel it means 'however'.

'However what has been made unlawful unto you ......'

Regards

Salaam Ramzi
thanks for reply .
Evidence please .
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[ramzi]

Salaam,

My answer was just my gut feeling. However I looked it up and this is what Lane Lexicon states for

As Lane Lexicon states in Book 1, page 110,

" is a compound of and ,
(T, 9,) which latter prevents the former's having
any government (T) it imports restriction;
like k,l, which see above, voce fl, in three
places (Mughnee, ]) it imports the
restriction of that which it precedes to that which
follows it;

So I still say 'however' fits in nicely, especially if reading from 2172

What do you think it means?

Regards

[Q_student]

Salaam,

My answer was just my gut feeling. However I looked it up and this is what Lane Lexicon states for

As Lane Lexicon states in Book 1, page 110,

" is a compound of and ,
(T, 9,) which latter prevents the former's having
any government (T it imports restriction;
like k,l, which see above, voce fl, in three
places (Mughnee, ] it imports the
restriction of that which it precedes to that which
follows it;

So I still say 'however' fits in nicely, especially if reading from 2172

What do you think it means?

Regards

Salaam Ramzi
When it iports restriction ,then why to translate it as "However"?

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[ramzi]

Salaam,

Please read the verses 2172 and 2173 in English, and use 'however' in the place of and see if it makes sense. 'But' can also be used, if you want to show restriction. However it is at a start of a sentence (verse) so using 'however' might be more accurate.

http//www.csse.uwa.edu.au/~mark/research/However.html
"However" used correctly in a sentence will suggest that that sentence disagrees in sense somewhat with the preceeding sentences see G1, G2 and G3.

You may use a semicolon to join two separate but related sentences such as in G4.
As in G5, you may use "but" to join two sentences which disagree to make one longer sentence.

The New Fowler's "Modern English Usage" (Oxford, 199 says
"Avoid at all costs the illiteracy of using however as a simple substitute for but, or of allowing a sentence to run on when
However should have had a capital H at the start of a new sentence."

Again, I ask.... What do you think it means?

Or is this just another thread where you post a question and you already have your answer. And you disagree and debate with any reply and do not budge from your answer?

If not, then please post what you think it means and we can discuss what the best meaning is

Regards

[Q_student]

Salaam,

Please read the verses 2172 and 2173 in English, and use 'however' in the place of and see if it makes sense. 'But' can also be used, if you want to show restriction. However it is at a start of a sentence (verse) so using 'however' might be more accurate.

http//www.csse.uwa.edu.au/~mark/research/However.html
"However" used correctly in a sentence will suggest that that sentence disagrees in sense somewhat with the preceeding sentences see G1, G2 and G3.

You may use a semicolon to join two separate but related sentences such as in G4.
As in G5, you may use "but" to join two sentences which disagree to make one longer sentence.

The New Fowler's "Modern English Usage" (Oxford, 199 says
"Avoid at all costs the illiteracy of using however as a simple substitute for but, or of allowing a sentence to run on when
However should have had a capital H at the start of a new sentence."

Again, I ask.... What do you think it means?

Or is this just another thread where you post a question and you already have your answer. And you disagree and debate with any reply and do not budge from your answer?

If not, then please post what you think it means and we can discuss what the best meaning is )

Regards

Dear Brother Salaam
Brother I have no objection to accept.The only thing is I need evidence. If you have some evidence that Innamaa means however ,most welcome. If you have no evidence insist only because you have said so, I am sorry I am a person not of this type.
Regards

[ramzi]

Salaam,

I have posted my evidence. Please read previous posts. I have asked your opinion on the word, so we can discuss who might be closer to the true meaning. I do my best to answer your questions, I expect at least a response to a question I pose to you.

If you do not wish to contribute to the discussion then I can not discuss. I have also asked for some contribution in a reply to your post in a different thread for which I still wait a response.

Regards

[Q_student]

Salaam,

I have posted my evidence. Please read previous posts. I have asked your opinion on the word, so we can discuss who might be closer to the true meaning. I do my best to answer your questions, I expect at least a response to a question I pose to you.

If you do not wish to contribute to the discussion then I can not discuss. I have also asked for some contribution in a reply to your post in a different thread for which I still wait a response.

Regards

Salaam
yes brother innamaa is restrictive.
It is not "however".
Regards

[Samia]

I accept Ramzi's rendition, although I would translate it as

O believers, eat of the good with which we have provided you and give thanks to allah, if you really worship him. (172)
172

He has only/ but forbidden you the dead, blood, and the flesh of swine, also that which is invoked to other than allah. but whoever is constrained (to eat) any of these, not intending to sin or transgress, incurs no guilt. allah is forgiving and the most merciful. (173)
173

[ramzi]

Salaam,

Yes, I agree... 'only' is a good translation too.

O believers, eat of the good with which we have provided you and give thanks to allah, if you really worship him. (172)
172

He has only forbidden you the dead, blood, and the flesh of swine, also that which is invoked to other than allah. but whoever is constrained (to eat) any of these, not intending to sin or transgress, incurs no guilt. allah is forgiving and the most merciful. (173)
173

O believers, eat of the good with which we have provided you and give thanks to allah, if you really worship him. (172)
172

However, He has forbidden you the dead, blood, and the flesh of swine, also that which is invoked to other than allah.Whoever is constrained (to eat) any of these, not intending to sin or transgress, incurs no guilt. allah is forgiving and the most merciful. (173)
173

Salaam
yes brother innamaa is restrictive.
It is not "however".
Regards

Thanks for reply.
I think we all agree it is restrictive...
If it is not 'however', what do you think it means?

It might be difficult to find one word that portrays the same meaning. We might be looking for a phrase or something. This shows the complexity of Arabic, and how tough/impossible it is to translate the quran without distorting the meaning.

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