Beating wife theory is negated by Qur'aan=4:34
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In that case, if I was responsible for my old grandma I will beat her up and she can't do anything about it because I am feeding her
Take a look at your own mother. Will you be happy if your dad beat her up simply because he was afraid?
Are you married? I hope not. I hope you never do until you realise the worth of a woman.Samia's heir. P
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With such an understanding, anybody feeding another has the right to beat them up if they do not "obey" them, but in the end, you cannot beat someone who is stronger than you. This means that this remedy goes only for the strong against the weak, and weaker, older husbands and husbands who are sick and/or with disabilities are deprived of this "God-given right". Same goes to wives a stronger richer wife, a wife whose father or a relative is a man of authority, a gangster or just one who is ready to hire a gangster to revenge for his dughter/sister/relative/friend cannot be beaten up. And what shall we end up with? The stronger spouse beating up the helpless one....and you call this a God-given right? No, this is "domestic violence", not a godly right given to a violent, unkind arrogant person who commands the weaker to "obey" them.
thank you but we are not talking about exceptions.
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In that case, if I was responsible for my old grandma I will beat her up and she can't do anything about it because I am feeding her )
Take a look at your own mother. Will you be happy if your dad beat her up simply because he was afraid?
Are you married? I hope not. I hope you never do until you realise the worth of a woman.thank you as well but we are talking about beating up the nushuzed wives.
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thank you as well but we are talking about beating up the nushuzed wives.
Might as well apply the same thing to other family members.
Like you said...
how can you go against the one who is feeding you?
I am now going to feed my old crippled grandma and if she disobeys me I will beat her with a stick.
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Might as well apply the same thing to other family members.
Like you said...
I am now going to feed my old crippled grandma and if she disobeys me I will beat her with a stick.
if your old crippled grandma is your nushuzed wife then go ahead.
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It is the overall teaching. Like you said (once again)...
you are jealous that god has given us the right to beat up nushuzed wives. well, no one can question god he knows better we do not.
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Are you schizophrenic?
I can understand your frustration. )
dear sister the person who started this thread and the mods won't like such basic discussion on this thread, if you still have doubts and wish to discuss it any further use pm. may god give some wisdom to all of us.
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Peace
The "Nashooz" is not simply "disobedience".It has three elements in it.- ( 2 / 429)
1Hatred for the Husband
2Disobedience
3She is inclined to someone other than husband"Nashooz" is a sort of complete betrayal on the part of wife and not simple "disobedience " as it is being portrayed.
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@ RasulHamsa
are you aware of the many different meanings the root "DaRaBa"?
Daad-Ra-Ba = to heal, strike, propound as an example, put forth a parable, go, make a journey, travel, mix, avoid, take away, put a cover, shut, mention, state, propound, set forth, compare, liken, seek a way, march on, set, impose, prevent, fight, traffic with anyone's property for a share in the profit, leave for sake, take away thing (with 'an).
Depressed ground, hard ground in a plain, sandy valley, commissioner as he has to travel much.
Kind manner, lean, thin, similar, alike, the act of striking, a blow, going from place to place, vicissitude of life, affliction especially that which relates to one's person, as disease, death, degradation is common and general suffering.beat, struck, smote, hit, the making a thing fall upon another thing, discipline/train, to cast forth, threw or flung it, seal/stamp, veil/curtain/cover/barrier, to point or make a sign, prohibit/hinder/prevent/withheld/restrain, collision, corrupted/disordered/disturbance/unsettled/confused, turn away, avoid, shun, fashion/mould/adapt, mention or set forth (e.g. a parable/example), explain, make a way, multiplying, go/travel, went away, it was or became long, excite/incite/urge/instigate, contend, dispose/accommodate, retract/digression/transition, to silence, tremble/shiver, share/portion.
Location where something is struck, wool or goat's hair separated or plucked or beaten with a mallet, sword, tent-peg, mallet. -
I can understand your frustration.
dear sister the person who started this thread and the mods won't like such basic discussion on this thread, if you still have doubts and wish to discuss it any further use pm. may god give some wisdom to all of us.
I'm not frustrated don't you worry about me. No I have wasted enough time with you today so don't expect a pm
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No I have wasted enough time with you today so don't expect a pm
I am sorry if you feel that way, I didn't mean to upset you it was purely unintentional. peace
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@ RH
have you read this?
Daad-Ra-Ba = to heal, strike, propound as an example, put forth a parable, go, make a journey, travel, mix, avoid, take away, put a cover, shut, mention, state, propound, set forth, compare, liken, seek a way, march on, set, impose, prevent, fight, traffic with anyone's property for a share in the profit, leave for sake, take away thing (with 'an).
Depressed ground, hard ground in a plain, sandy valley, commissioner as he has to travel much.
Kind manner, lean, thin, similar, alike, the act of striking, a blow, going from place to place, vicissitude of life, affliction especially that which relates to one's person, as disease, death, degradation is common and general suffering.beat, struck, smote, hit, the making a thing fall upon another thing, discipline/train, to cast forth, threw or flung it, seal/stamp, veil/curtain/cover/barrier, to point or make a sign, prohibit/hinder/prevent/withheld/restrain, collision, corrupted/disordered/disturbance/unsettled/confused, turn away, avoid, shun, fashion/mould/adapt, mention or set forth (e.g. a parable/example), explain, make a way, multiplying, go/travel, went away, it was or became long, excite/incite/urge/instigate, contend, dispose/accommodate, retract/digression/transition, to silence, tremble/shiver, share/portion.
Location where something is struck, wool or goat's hair separated or plucked or beaten with a mallet, sword, tent-peg, mallet. -
and thus merits beating up?
Peace
Exposition by G A Pervaiz
first admonish the women, then, if required, separate them temporarily from their husbands, or intern them, and finally, if necessary, punish them otherwise.
http//www.tolueislam.com/Parwez/expo/expo_004.htm
Regards
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Peace
Exposition by G A Pervaiz
first admonish the women, then, if required, separate them temporarily from their husbands, or intern them, and finally, if necessary, punish them otherwise.
http//www.tolueislam.com/Parwez/expo/expo_004.htm
Regards
I like that translation. I also like Shabbir Ahmed's "admonish them with more examples".
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@ RH
have you read this?
Daad-Ra-Ba = to heal, strike, propound as an example, put forth a parable, go, make a journey, travel, mix, avoid, take away, put a cover, shut, mention, state, propound, set forth, compare, liken, seek a way, march on, set, impose, prevent, fight, traffic with anyone's property for a share in the profit, leave for sake, take away thing (with 'an).
Depressed ground, hard ground in a plain, sandy valley, commissioner as he has to travel much.
Kind manner, lean, thin, similar, alike, the act of striking, a blow, going from place to place, vicissitude of life, affliction especially that which relates to one's person, as disease, death, degradation is common and general suffering.beat, struck, smote, hit, the making a thing fall upon another thing, discipline/train, to cast forth, threw or flung it, seal/stamp, veil/curtain/cover/barrier, to point or make a sign, prohibit/hinder/prevent/withheld/restrain, collision, corrupted/disordered/disturbance/unsettled/confused, turn away, avoid, shun, fashion/mould/adapt, mention or set forth (e.g. a parable/example), explain, make a way, multiplying, go/travel, went away, it was or became long, excite/incite/urge/instigate, contend, dispose/accommodate, retract/digression/transition, to silence, tremble/shiver, share/portion.
Location where something is struck, wool or goat's hair separated or plucked or beaten with a mallet, sword, tent-peg, mallet.thanks, arabic is an amazing language. peace
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thanks, arabic is an amazing language. peace
It surely is, but that doesnt make it the only language spoken in heaven
BTW how do you know whether we are going to speak as we are doing on earth??peace