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    MUNZIR_ALI
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    Shirk. Not to be confused with shrek
    ok that was a bad joke lol

    offtopic but I have to say that I like shrek very much!

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      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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      offtopic but I have to say that I like shrek very much!

      How is what nsws1988 said off topic??

      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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        nsws1988
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        offtopic but I have to say that I like shrek very much!

        its not off topic. i just wanted to give advice ;D

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          MUNZIR_ALI
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          its not off topic. i just wanted to give advice ;D

          OOps sorry, I meant what I was going to write is off topic...you see, I new with this emoticon thing

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            No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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            you mean dhikr, right?

            here is a good website short articles about all the concepts you are asking

            http//www.tolueislam.com/Parwez/BA_Parwez.htm

            lol. either he pressed "d" instead of "s", meaning he wanted to write "shirk" or he mixed up "r" and "k".

            anyhow, Rev. John
            you have the meaning of "shirk" now.
            "dhikr" (spoken "zikr&quot means

            reminder, remembrance

            can anybody think of other meanings?

            I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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              Yes I think it might have been dhikr. (I like Shrek too)

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                OOps sorry, I meant what I was going to write is off topic...you see, I new with this emoticon thing

                So you were going to write 'off-topic' anyway?

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                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                  So you were going to write 'off-topic' anyway?

                  laugh you caught him!

                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                    So you were going to write 'off-topic' anyway?

                    I mean What i wrote was Off topic thats why I wrote that emoticon...Sorry I could not resist not writing about shrek rotfl

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                      Samia
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                      lol. either he pressed "d" instead of "s", meaning he wanted to write "shirk" or he mixed up "r" and "k".

                      anyhow, Rev. John
                      you have the meaning of "shirk" now.
                      "dhikr" (spoken "zikr&quot means

                      reminder, remembrance

                      can anybody think of other meanings?

                      spoken qur'aan as opposed to written; in the spoken language?
                      The word used for reminder is "tadhkira/ "

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                        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                        spoken qur'aan as opposed to written; in the spoken language?
                        The word used for reminder is "tadhkira/ "

                        I meant that "dhikr" is spoken "zikr" - like when we say it with our mouths we say "zikr". P
                        What's the root for "Dhikr"?

                        Please write in the following format (example) Zay-Ka-Waw so that I can look it up on PRL.

                        Thanks

                        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                          Zikr

                          by Dr. Manzoor-ul-Haque

                          If we look into the Quran we will find that the word ?Zikr? occurs 268 times in the Quran and has 63 derivatives used in the Book, the Quran. This word ?Zikr? has many connotations in Islam. Its almost opposite is ?Nissiyane? (forgetting). This verb occurs 45 times in the Quran; and 28 of its derivatives have also been mentioned in the sacred Book.

                          The root of Zikr is Za-Kaf-Ra. Some of its meanings are

                          Az-Zikro Wattazk'aro It means

                          ? To preserve something, to keep alive in mind; this word is used opposite to NASYUN, which means to forget (66

                          At tazkerato It means

                          • To remind something which is needed (7629)
                          • The Quran has also been called As-Zikro (1614) because it contains the history and Causes or Laws for the rise and fall of nations
                          • Zikrun also means to remain steadfast in the battlefield and thus ensures the supremacy of Divine Laws (5145). The Divine Laws are also called Zikrullah (3923). It has also been used in the context of dignity, honour, respect, fame and saying something good (4344)
                          • Verses (2152) says Faz Kurunee Azkur Kum -?You keep in view My Laws and I shall protect your rights and grace you with dignity and honour?
                          • In short Zikr means
                          1. To remain steadfast in the battle field
                          2. Ponder over the secrets of nature
                          3. Take lesson from the previous history of nations
                          4. Keep in view the Divine Laws and take decisions accordingly
                          5. Propagate or give publicity to the Divine Laws
                          6. These are the steps which install peace of mind (132 and not the rotation of beads or retreating to the caves or hujras

                          Keep these meanings in view, study the Quran and grasp the places where this word has been used. You will understand the real perspective and get the action verbs commanding you to do the things practically.

                          Dr. Manzoor-ul-Haque
                          http//www.tolueislam.com/Bazm/Manzoor/LT_021.htm

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                            I meant that "dhikr" is spoken "zikr" - like when we say it with our mouths we say "zikr". P
                            What's the root for "Dhikr"?

                            Please write in the following format (example) Zay-Ka-Waw so that I can look it up on PRL.

                            Thanks

                            I write "Dh" to be pronounced as "the". I do not know how it shows on PRL. It's not the same letter as in zakaat (Zay Ka Wau). It's (Dhal Kaaf Re) or Zal Ka Re

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