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what is the nature of God?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved What is the nature of God?
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    nerspi
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    peace all

    perhaps this whole section may be a little unnecessary, because we can not understand the nature of God, nor can we imagine what He looks like, sounds... we can't grasp it.
    how could limited comprehend the unlimited...?

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      Alen
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      peace all

      perhaps this whole section may be a little unnecessary, because we can not understand the nature of God, nor can we imagine what He looks like, sounds... we can't grasp it.
      how could limited comprehend the unlimited...?

      Peace,
      Respectfully.

      Then why ask this in the beginning?
      But sinc eyou're here and i'm here, let's talk.
      How do you describe a taste of chocolate who never tasted it?
      You cna't.
      One must first taste chocolate - i advize BOOST, it's strong - and then tlak about it.
      God bless you, brother.

      Peace.

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        Rev_John
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        You are both right. There is no way we can understand the nature of God, our understanding is limited to this world and the science we have learned, God is way more than our meager brains can comprehend.

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          Jafar
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          peace all

          perhaps this whole section may be a little unnecessary, because we can not understand the nature of God, nor can we imagine what He looks like, sounds... we can't grasp it.
          how could limited comprehend the unlimited...?

          What does gravity looks like? sounds?
          Can gravity be seen? Can gravity makes sounds?
          And where is gravity?

          Salam / Peace

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            Rev_John
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            What does gravity looks like? sounds?
            Can gravity be seen? Can gravity makes sounds?
            And where is gravity?

            Salam / Peace

            We do understand what gravity is, it is the warping of space/time by mass. The nature of God is much more complicated than that

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              Jafar
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              We do understand what gravity is, it is the warping of space/time by mass. The nature of God is much more complicated than that

              Can you fully grasp 'Nature' then?
              The more you grasp on 'nature' / 'universe' the more you understand God...
              As God 'wrote' his (impossible to alter) verses in the heaven and the earth...

              There are signs in the heaven and the earth for those who understands..

              Salam / Peace

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                Rev_John
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                Can you fully grasp 'Nature' then?
                The more you grasp on 'nature' / 'universe' the more you understand God...
                As God 'wrote' his (impossible to alter) verses in the heaven and the earth...

                There are signs in the heaven and the earth for those who understands..

                Salam / Peace

                I have a PhD in Astrophysics, so I understand the universe as far as humans can with our small concept of understanding; and yes it has brought me closer to God, but I would never believe anyone who said they fully understand nature, the universe or especially God.

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                  MUNZIR_ALI
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                  I have a PhD in Astrophysics, so I understand the universe as far as humans can with our small concept of understanding; and yes it has brought me closer to God, but I would never believe anyone who said they fully understand nature, the universe or especially God.

                  bravo bravo ..I think astrophysics brings us closer to God!

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                    Rev_John
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                    bravo bravo ..I think astrophysics brings us closer to God!

                    It certainly did me. yay

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                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                      It certainly did me. yay

                      me too...It proves the creations of God! hail handshake pr

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                        Rev_John
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                        me too...It proves the creations of God! hail handshake pr

                        You are quite right, it does. bravo bravo bravo bravo

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                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                          You are quite right, it does. bravo bravo bravo bravo

                          handshake group

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                            Rev_John
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                            me too...It proves the creations of God! hail handshake pr

                            It allows us to understand, just a little, God's creation of the universe.

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                              MUNZIR_ALI
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                              It allows us to understand, just a little, God's creation of the universe.

                              yes bravo group

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                                rashidala
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                                hate to break us this love fest you two have going lol

                                I know of more physicists who have went atheist and not the other way around.

                                I think one has to be more inclined to a belief in God and then takes what they observe in nature to be pointed towards said deity.

                                just my two cents

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  hate to break us this love fest you two have going lol

                                  I know of more physicists who have went atheist and not the other way around.

                                  I think one has to be more inclined to a belief in God and then takes what they observe in nature to be pointed towards said deity.

                                  just my two cents )

                                  Some of the greatest physicists Newton, Einstein, Hawking, etc. all said that the more they learn the more they believe there must be a God.

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                                    rashidala
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                                    I studied Einstein, do not go trumpeting him as a model of God belief.. lol

                                    In 1929, Einstein told Rabbi Herbert S. Goldstein "I believe in Spinoza's God, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind."

                                    In a 1950 letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."

                                    That is why Einstein is the man and not a traditional God believer you were trying to pigeon hole him into.. all in good fun though, John

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                                      Rev_John
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                                      I studied Einstein, do not go trumpeting him as a model of God belief.. lol

                                      In 1929, Einstein told Rabbi Herbert S. Goldstein "I believe in Spinoza's God, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind."

                                      In a 1950 letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."

                                      That is why Einstein is the man and not a traditional God believer you were trying to pigeon hole him into.. all in good fun though, John

                                      You are correct in your studies, but you have to admit he did believe in a supreme being as he also said "when you look at the universe, how can you doubt that there is a God" Whatever his interpritation was of God.

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                                        rashidala
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                                        Yes, he believed in a form of God. ) Have you studied Spinoza? Interesting take on the God-idea.

                                        I admit I am still puzzled by your website and your take on christianity. As I say, as a former ordained minister in the faith when a few years in service and education I have been scratching my head for the last few days.. lol.

                                        Would like to sit for coffee some day and just go over it all lol.. on me.

                                        God willing we could speak with the next best thing through this medium as I would be most interested how you lead your church on matters of the bible. )

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                                          Rev_John
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                                          Yes, he believed in a form of God. ) Have you studied Spinoza? Interesting take on the God-idea.

                                          I admit I am still puzzled by your website and your take on christianity. As I say, as a former ordained minister in the faith when a few years in service and education I have been scratching my head for the last few days.. lol.

                                          Would like to sit for coffee some day and just go over it all lol.. on me.

                                          God willing we could speak with the next best thing through this medium as I would be most interested how you lead your church on matters of the bible. )

                                          I have to admit I have not studied Spinoza, I will have to take a look.

                                          Why are you so confused? I believe in one God and one God only, I also believe the bible has been "messed with" by so many people and mistranslated. I still consider myself a Christian as I take the message that God gave Jesus to be very important, but I do not believe that Jesus was the only begotten son of God. I believe that Joseph was Jesus' father. I am also a Muslim in the real meaning of the word and find the Quran (which I am reading) very interesting and more believable than some parts of the bible.

                                          It would be interesting and great fun to sit and discuss these things over coffee. handshake

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