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Quraish in the Torah

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    Rami
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    Lets see the Quranic narrative

    2876 Qaroon was from among Moses people, but he betrayed them. And We gave him such treasures that the keys thereof were almost too heavy for the strongest person. His people said to him Do not become too happy, for God does not like such kind of joy.
    2877 And seek with the provisions bestowed upon you by God the abode of the Hereafter, and do not forget your share in this world, and do good as God has done good to you. And do not seek corruption in the land. God does not like the corruptors.
    2878 He said I have attained all this only because of my own knowledge. Did he not realize that God had annihilated before him generations that were much stronger than he, and greater in riches? The transgressors were not asked about their crimes.
    2879 Then he came out among his people draped in his ornaments. Those who preferred this worldly life said Oh, if only we were given similar to what Qaroon has been given. Indeed, he is very fortunate.
    2880 And those who were blessed with knowledge said Woe to you! The reward from God is far better for those who believe and do good works. And none attains it except the steadfast.
    2881 We then caused the Earth to swallow him and his mansion. He had no group that could protect him against God; nor would he be victorious.
    2882 And those who wished they were in his place the day before said Indeed it is God Who provides or restricts for whomever He chooses from among His servants. Had it not been for Gods grace towards us, He could have caused the Earth to swallow us as well. We now realize that the rejecters never succeed.

    But in the Quran, Moses people seem to be in the same land so they went from A past the sea to B then back to the land. As if Pharaoh ruled over Canaan or something.

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      Ibrahim-Khalil
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      one jew at rhe russian board told me that is Korah. didnt get that, so from the Torah we read that "Kuraish" was punished?

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        Rami
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        one jew at rhe russian board told me that is Korah. didnt get that, so from the Torah we read that "Kuraish" was punished?

        Ohh so the Korash guy is actually Korah. Well, I guess I screwed up. whatever

        But the similairity between the two narratives are deafening.

        If the Torah is that close, we can know other things too from it. Like the feast times etc.

        I hope it was that simple.

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          Ibrahim-Khalil
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          hmm... now what ill say to them jews on that board man )

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            herbman
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            I think you right

            this is shin in hebrew

            like shalom

            But, where does it say in Quran that Quraish are an arabic tribe?
            This Qorah people and the temple and Quraish in Quran speaks also about the BEIT. I mean there are similarities.

            regards

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              Rami
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              I think you right

              this is shin in hebrew

              like shalom

              But, where does it say in Quran that Quraish are an arabic tribe?
              This Qorah people and the temple and Quraish in Quran speaks also about the BEIT. I mean there are similarities.

              regards

              Most Jews were Arabs. Heck the tribe Mohammed was from is called Bani-Hashem(The Name in hebrew).

              What BAIT are you talking about? bethel? or the house just swallowed?

              Which verses in the Torah made this connection?

              peace

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                herbman
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                Most Jews were Arabs. Heck the tribe Mohammed was from is called Bani-Hashem(The Name in hebrew).

                What BAIT are you talking about? bethel? or the house just swallowed?

                Which verses in the Torah made this connection?

                peace

                Salam,

                In Quran sourate 106 (Y. Ali)

                Bismi allahi Arrahmani Arrahimi

                1. For the covenants (of security and safeguard enjoyed) by the Quraish,
                2. Their covenants (covering) journeys by winter and summer
                3. Let them adore the Lord of this House (BAYT),
                  4.Who provides them with food against hunger, and with security against fear (of danger).

                And the Korah who were the guardians of the Temple (BAYT) in the Torah

                Regards

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                  Rami
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                  OK from where in the Torah do you get they were guardians of the House?

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                    herbman
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                    OK from where in the Torah do you get they were guardians of the House?

                    for example read here, I am not a Torah specialist, I reported what a guy told me and wanted more info on it, that is why I posted here.
                    http//newinchrist.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/sons-of-korah-doorkeepers-in-the-house-of-god/

                    God Bless

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                      Is it not possible that we just have a case of two tribes with similar names here?

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