Reciting Qur'an vs. reading a translation
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better recite than understand, because If you understand it you'll have to practice it, so choice is yours.
rotfl You joking right?
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Peace Mavera,
Hi everyone. Eid Abdullah, thanks for the ayaths.
It seems very obvious but people blindly claim otherwise.
I think, one thing that should be mentioned is importance of reading different translations (if available)
For example, in al-Wqi`ah surah, ayath 35-36-37, one translation tells "virgin women waiting at heaven", other one translates it as "virgin (not touched) beauties".
Big difference.
I believe that 5636-37 are usually mistranslated.
5629 And fruit-trees which are ripe.
5630 And extended shade.
5631 And flowing water.
5632 And many fruits.
5633 Neither ending; nor forbidden.
5634 And raised furnishings.
5635 We have created them a creation.
5636 And made them never previously touched.
5637 Abundant, contemporary/matching.
5638 For those on the right side.The context of 35-37 is fruits and furnishings. Where did "beauties" come from? There is neither "beauties" in context of these signs nor Arabic word for "beauties" in 35-37.
Nun-shiin-alif create, produce
Ba-kaf-ra untouched
Ayn-ra-ba abundant, clear, plain
Ta-ra-ba contemporary, matchSource http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm
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Beautiful story about QURAN.
Why do we read Quran, even if we can't understand a single Arabic word????
This is a beautiful story.
An old American Muslim lived on a farm in the mountains of eastern Kentucky with his young grandson. Each morning Grandpa was up early sitting at the kitchen table reading his Quran. His grandson wanted to be just like him and tried to imitate him in every way he could.
One day the grandson asked, 'Grandpa! I try to read the Quran just like you but I don't understand it, and what I do understand I forget as soon as I close the book. What good does reading the Qur'an do?'
The Grandfather quietly turned from putting coal in the stove and replied,
'Take this coal basket down to the river and bring me back a basket of water.'The boy did as he was told, but all the water leaked out before he got back to the house. The grandfather laughed and said, 'You'll have to move a little faster next time,' and sent him back to the river with the basket
to try again. This time the boy ran faster, but again the basket was empty before he returned home. Out of breath, he told his grandfather that it was impossible to carry water in a basket, and he went to get a bucket
instead.The old man said, 'I don't want a bucket of water; I want a basket of water.
You're just not trying hard enough,' and he went out the door to watch the boy try again.
At this point, the boy knew it was impossible, but he wanted to show his grandfather that even if he ran as fast as he could, the water would leak out before he got back to the house. The boy again dipped the basket into
river and ran hard, but when he reached his grandfather the basket was again empty. Out of breath, he said, 'See Grandpa, it's useless!''So you think it is useless?' The old man said, 'Look at the basket.'
The boy looked at the basket and for the first time realized that the basket was different. It had been transformed from a dirty old coal basket and
was now clean, inside and out.'Son, that's what happens when you read the Qur'an. You might not understand or remember everything, but when you read it, you will be changed, inside and out. That is the work of Allah in our lives.'
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Received an email
Beautiful story about QURAN.
Why do we read Quran, even if we can't understand a single Arabic word????
This is a beautiful story.
An old American Muslim lived on a farm in the mountains of eastern Kentucky with his young grandson. Each morning Grandpa was up early sitting at the kitchen table reading his Quran. His grandson wanted to be just like him and tried to imitate him in every way he could.
One day the grandson asked, 'Grandpa! I try to read the Quran just like you but I don't understand it, and what I do understand I forget as soon as I close the book. What good does reading the Qur'an do?'
The Grandfather quietly turned from putting coal in the stove and replied,
'Take this coal basket down to the river and bring me back a basket of water.'The boy did as he was told, but all the water leaked out before he got back to the house. The grandfather laughed and said, 'You'll have to move a little faster next time,' and sent him back to the river with the basket
to try again. This time the boy ran faster, but again the basket was empty before he returned home. Out of breath, he told his grandfather that it was impossible to carry water in a basket, and he went to get a bucket
instead.The old man said, 'I don't want a bucket of water; I want a basket of water.
You're just not trying hard enough,' and he went out the door to watch the boy try again.
At this point, the boy knew it was impossible, but he wanted to show his grandfather that even if he ran as fast as he could, the water would leak out before he got back to the house. The boy again dipped the basket into
river and ran hard, but when he reached his grandfather the basket was again empty. Out of breath, he said, 'See Grandpa, it's useless!''So you think it is useless?' The old man said, 'Look at the basket.'
The boy looked at the basket and for the first time realized that the basket was different. It had been transformed from a dirty old coal basket and
was now clean, inside and out.'Son, that's what happens when you read the Qur'an. You might not understand or remember everything, but when you read it, you will be changed, inside and out. That is the work of Allah in our lives.'
Nice story bravo
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Received an email
Beautiful story about QURAN.
Why do we read Quran, even if we can't understand a single Arabic word????
This is a beautiful story.
An old American Muslim lived on a farm in the mountains of eastern Kentucky with his young grandson. Each morning Grandpa was up early sitting at the kitchen table reading his Quran. His grandson wanted to be just like him and tried to imitate him in every way he could.
One day the grandson asked, 'Grandpa! I try to read the Quran just like you but I don't understand it, and what I do understand I forget as soon as I close the book. What good does reading the Qur'an do?'
The Grandfather quietly turned from putting coal in the stove and replied,
'Take this coal basket down to the river and bring me back a basket of water.'The boy did as he was told, but all the water leaked out before he got back to the house. The grandfather laughed and said, 'You'll have to move a little faster next time,' and sent him back to the river with the basket
to try again. This time the boy ran faster, but again the basket was empty before he returned home. Out of breath, he told his grandfather that it was impossible to carry water in a basket, and he went to get a bucket
instead.The old man said, 'I don't want a bucket of water; I want a basket of water.
You're just not trying hard enough,' and he went out the door to watch the boy try again.
At this point, the boy knew it was impossible, but he wanted to show his grandfather that even if he ran as fast as he could, the water would leak out before he got back to the house. The boy again dipped the basket into
river and ran hard, but when he reached his grandfather the basket was again empty. Out of breath, he said, 'See Grandpa, it's useless!''So you think it is useless?' The old man said, 'Look at the basket.'
The boy looked at the basket and for the first time realized that the basket was different. It had been transformed from a dirty old coal basket and
was now clean, inside and out.'Son, that's what happens when you read the Qur'an. You might not understand or remember everything, but when you read it, you will be changed, inside and out. That is the work of Allah in our lives.'
Yeah I've heard that story before. A nice story, but still - does not explain how reciting something you have no idea of what you're saying will change you. ????? Unless Arabic is a magical language??
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Received an email
Beautiful story about QURAN.
Why do we read Quran, even if we can't understand a single Arabic word????
This is a beautiful story.
An old American Muslim lived on a farm in the mountains of eastern Kentucky with his young grandson. Each morning Grandpa was up early sitting at the kitchen table reading his Quran. His grandson wanted to be just like him and tried to imitate him in every way he could.
One day the grandson asked, 'Grandpa! I try to read the Quran just like you but I don't understand it, and what I do understand I forget as soon as I close the book. What good does reading the Qur'an do?'
The Grandfather quietly turned from putting coal in the stove and replied,
'Take this coal basket down to the river and bring me back a basket of water.'The boy did as he was told, but all the water leaked out before he got back to the house. The grandfather laughed and said, 'You'll have to move a little faster next time,' and sent him back to the river with the basket
to try again. This time the boy ran faster, but again the basket was empty before he returned home. Out of breath, he told his grandfather that it was impossible to carry water in a basket, and he went to get a bucket
instead.The old man said, 'I don't want a bucket of water; I want a basket of water.
You're just not trying hard enough,' and he went out the door to watch the boy try again.
At this point, the boy knew it was impossible, but he wanted to show his grandfather that even if he ran as fast as he could, the water would leak out before he got back to the house. The boy again dipped the basket into
river and ran hard, but when he reached his grandfather the basket was again empty. Out of breath, he said, 'See Grandpa, it's useless!''So you think it is useless?' The old man said, 'Look at the basket.'
The boy looked at the basket and for the first time realized that the basket was different. It had been transformed from a dirty old coal basket and
was now clean, inside and out.'Son, that's what happens when you read the Qur'an. You might not understand or remember everything, but when you read it, you will be changed, inside and out. That is the work of Allah in our lives.'
I don't like the story - it teaches us to be content with just reading the Arabic verses like chanting mantras without knowing what they mean.
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Received an email
Beautiful story about QURAN.
Why do we read Quran, even if we can't understand a single Arabic word????
This is a beautiful story.
An old American Muslim lived on a farm in the mountains of eastern Kentucky with his young grandson. Each morning Grandpa was up early sitting at the kitchen table reading his Quran. His grandson wanted to be just like him and tried to imitate him in every way he could.
One day the grandson asked, 'Grandpa! I try to read the Quran just like you but I don't understand it, and what I do understand I forget as soon as I close the book. What good does reading the Qur'an do?'
The Grandfather quietly turned from putting coal in the stove and replied,
'Take this coal basket down to the river and bring me back a basket of water.'The boy did as he was told, but all the water leaked out before he got back to the house. The grandfather laughed and said, 'You'll have to move a little faster next time,' and sent him back to the river with the basket
to try again. This time the boy ran faster, but again the basket was empty before he returned home. Out of breath, he told his grandfather that it was impossible to carry water in a basket, and he went to get a bucket
instead.The old man said, 'I don't want a bucket of water; I want a basket of water.
You're just not trying hard enough,' and he went out the door to watch the boy try again.
At this point, the boy knew it was impossible, but he wanted to show his grandfather that even if he ran as fast as he could, the water would leak out before he got back to the house. The boy again dipped the basket into
river and ran hard, but when he reached his grandfather the basket was again empty. Out of breath, he said, 'See Grandpa, it's useless!''So you think it is useless?' The old man said, 'Look at the basket.'
The boy looked at the basket and for the first time realized that the basket was different. It had been transformed from a dirty old coal basket and
was now clean, inside and out.'Son, that's what happens when you read the Qur'an. You might not understand or remember everything, but when you read it, you will be changed, inside and out. That is the work of Allah in our lives.'
You may tell many stories pointing to many different directions.
If we believe in Quran, we should make our decisions and verdicts based on Quran, not based on some stories.
Quran clearly tells, it is in Arabic in order for us to understand (122) , and repeats this in 433
So Arabic is only a medium for people to understand, similarly, every person should read Quran in his / her own language to understand.
For people thinking otherwise, can you show me related ayaths in Quran that Allah told us, do not understand what Quran says, just act like parrots?
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Peace,
Respectfully.I feel much better understanding The Quran once i read it, ther eis no point in reading something you don't understand. What i'm saying is this i also met plenty of people who told me that i should learn to read The Quran in Arabic with that special chanting because the reward is there much better.
I even heard one guy listening to The Quran on a tape and when i asked him does he udnerstand Arabic, he told me that he doesnt but that just listening to it, means you're getting a reward.
Peace.
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I even heard one guy listening to The Quran on a tape and when i asked him does he udnerstand Arabic, he told me that he doesnt but that just listening to it, means you're getting a reward.
i know. it's just horrible, engaging like that in pointless things. it's a waste of time is what it is. is that what God is looking from us... to waste time, listening to things we don't understand, ... imagine whole world doing it, it stops further development, it stops evolution... what kind of image do these people have of God? unbelievable
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Peace,
Respectfully.I feel much better understanding The Quran once i read it, ther eis no point in reading something you don't understand. What i'm saying is this i also met plenty of people who told me that i should learn to read The Quran in Arabic with that special chanting because the reward is there much better.
I even heard one guy listening to The Quran on a tape and when i asked him does he udnerstand Arabic, he told me that he doesnt but that just listening to it, means you're getting a reward.
Peace.
It is ridiculous.
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I see two extremes here.
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Reading the Quran exclusively in Arabic and not comprehending anything you are parroting.
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Reading the Quran exclusively in English. You are following the translator's interpretation, not the quran's.
A good combination of both should be sought.
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I see two extremes here.
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Reading the Quran exclusively in Arabic and not comprehending anything you are parroting.
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Reading the Quran exclusively in English -- You are following the translator's interpretation, not quran's.
A good combination of both should be sought.
What if you do not speak Arabic?
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Arabic is not my native tongue, either. You could learn to read it, for starters. If that's still too daunting, then you can use transliteration as a source. Have you studied the bible? what sources/strategies did you use?
I believe, like everything, it starts with the mind. You have to believe you can accomplish what you want to accomplish, and the rest will take care of itself.
BTW, If I lived a little closer I'd visit your church. At least, we are in the same state...