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Women: Taraweeh at the masjid or home

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    Ahmad_Bilal
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    No, the Christian viewpoint was similar to that for a period of time up to about 16-1700

    Okay, maybe the traditional Christian viewpoint isn't worse, but that means they are in error, since the BIBLICAL viewpoint is that women are inferior to men. So, if Christians believe in the Bible, then they believe that women are inferior to men too, since this what the Bible teaches...

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      MUNZIR_ALI
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      Okay, maybe the traditional Christian viewpoint isn't worse, but that means they are in error, since the BIBLICAL viewpoint is that women are inferior to men. So, if Christians believe in the Bible, then they believe that women are inferior to men too, since this what the Bible teaches...

      many christians don't read the bible. Why is that?

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        Ahmad_Bilal
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        many christians don't read the bible. Why is that?

        Because it directly proves that they are blasphemers and idolators...

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          Rev_John
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          Because it directly proves that they are blasphemers and idolators...

          That is a stupid and insulting statement and you know it!
          It is mainly because they are sheep and are just told what to believe instead of reading the bible and making up their own minds.

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            MUNZIR_ALI
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            That is a stupid and insulting statement and you know it!
            It is mainly because they are sheep and are just told what to believe instead of reading the bible and making up their own minds.

            Sunnis are blind followers too! They read the quran in arabic without understanding a single word!

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              aynur
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              Sunnis are blind followers too! They read the quran in arabic without understanding a single word! o

              I was just going to say that too. ;D
              If you guys want to attack Christians for following blindly and not reading the Bible themselves, then you should also be attacking the majority of mainstream Muslims who just recite it in Arabic even though it's not their language ... and only stress that as being important.

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                MUNZIR_ALI
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                I was just going to say that too. ;D
                If you guys want to attack Christians for following blindly and not reading the Bible themselves, then you should also be attacking the majority of mainstream Muslims who just recite it in Arabic even though it's not their language ... and only stress that as being important.

                bravo exactly!

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                  Rev_John
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                  As far as I can see, some traditional Muslims are "blasphemers and idolaters". Not a lot different

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                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                    As far as I can see, some traditional Muslims are "blasphemers and idolaters". Not a lot different

                    bravo I believe there is no difference between the true type of traditionalists!

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                      Rev_John
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                      bravo I believe there is no difference between the true type of traditionalists!

                      They are no different, they are both as stupid as each other.

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                        Ahmad_Bilal
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                        That is a stupid and insulting statement and you know it!
                        It is mainly because they are sheep and are just told what to believe instead of reading the bible and making up their own minds.

                        I wasn't trying to insult you, and you certainly shouldn't be offended because you DO read the Bible... Still, the truth is many Christians are well aware of what the Bible says regarding their actions. They just don't care because they don't want to give up the religion of their fathers. They just blindly follow whatever they've been taught, simply because they've believed in their entire lives, even if that means they're guilty of blasphemy and idolatry...

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                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                          They are no different, they are both as stupid as each other.

                          And some hate each other too! brickwall We as humans, should join hands together and work for peace! yay group

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                            Ahmad_Bilal
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                            As far as I can see, some traditional Muslims are "blasphemers and idolaters". Not a lot different

                            I agree. But this still doesn't change the idea of total, peaceful submission to God. The traditional Muslims still believe in the total oneness of Allah, while traditional Christians don't. Therefore, the two groups are not the same. In my opinion, there's more righteousness in a traditional (Sunni) Moslem than a Trinitarian Christian who believes that God is "three-in-one", or a Unitarian Christian who believes that God can beget children and punish them for the sins of humanity...

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                              Rev_John
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                              I agree. But this still doesn't change the idea of total, peaceful submission to God. The traditional Muslims still believe in the total oneness of Allah, while traditional Christians don't. Therefore, the two groups are not the same. In my opinion, there's more righteousness in a traditional (Sunni) Moslem than a Trinitarian Christian who believes that God is "three-in-one", or a Unitarian Christian who believes that God can beget children and punish them for the sins of humanity...

                              To bigin with Unitarian Christians do not believe that, some may, but it is not within their belief system. Also, why do you hate Christians so much?

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                                Zees
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                                Back to the topic guys. Women should be kept on a leash in case they try to run away.

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                                  Zees
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                                  Because it directly proves that they are blasphemers and idolators...

                                  I believe that was not the most sensible thing to say. Christians are good people and you never know with time they may very well turn to the Unitarian Churches. Amen

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                                    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                    The Christian viewpoint concerning women is a lot worse than the Qur'aanic (Islaamic) one...
                                    http//submission.org/women-comp.html

                                    A lot worse? The Quran contains no sexism at all.

                                    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      The Mullah should also tell hows the wife to be trained to follow commands. You know like SIT, ROLL OVER, SHAKE HANDS thats a good dog i mean wife. ;D

                                      rotfl

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                                        muslimahandproud
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                                        When I converted to Islam my mother was fine with it, especially when I told her I only followed the Qu'ran and it was very respectful to women etc.

                                        However my mother let slip to one of her friends that I converted. She was actually disgusted. She then sent me a booklet called "Women and Islam" and it had PAGES of hadiths that put women down in every way. She wrote a letter to my mother basically asking why she has accepted the fact that I've joined a religion where I'm treated like a second class citizen.

                                        I could see her point. I was so disgusted by the book I threw it away.

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                                          No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                          When I converted to Islam my mother was fine with it, especially when I told her I only followed the Qu'ran and it was very respectful to women etc.

                                          However my mother let slip to one of her friends that I converted. She was actually disgusted. She then sent me a booklet called "Women and Islam" and it had PAGES of hadiths that put women down in every way. She wrote a letter to my mother basically asking why she has accepted the fact that I've joined a religion where I'm treated like a second class citizen.

                                          I could see her point. I was so disgusted by the book I threw it away.

                                          Did you show her what the Bible says? She would be surprised and perhaps throw it away, just like you threw the book with the hadiths away.

                                          I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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