WAS JOHN FATHER OF JESUS?
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Ummm... Huh? confused Can you rephrase that last statement? I don't understand what you said... -\
I think he meant "John ain't nobody. Its not in the quran, thats something else"
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I do not know much concerning the gospel accounts.
The Biblical gospel accounts imply that Jesus was the son of Joseph, a Jewish carpenter. John (i.e. "The Baptist", the son of Zechariah, is considered to be Jesus' cousin; he was the son of Elizabeth, the sister of Mary. According to the gospel of Matthew, Mary conceived Jesus while Elizabeth was still pregnant with John, making the two pretty close in age, less than a year apart.
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The Biblical gospel accounts imply that Jesus was the son of Joseph, a Jewish carpenter. John (i.e. "The Baptist", the son of Zechariah, is considered to be Jesus' cousin; he was the son of Elizabeth, the sister of Mary. According to the gospel of Matthew, Mary conceived Jesus while Elizabeth was still pregnant with John, making the two pretty close in age, less than a year apart.
Actually he was a second-cousin to Jesus as Mary and Elizabeth were cousins (supposedly)
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The Biblical gospel accounts imply that Jesus was the son of Joseph, a Jewish carpenter. John (i.e. "The Baptist", the son of Zechariah, is considered to be Jesus' cousin; he was the son of Elizabeth, the sister of Mary. According to the gospel of Matthew, Mary conceived Jesus while Elizabeth was still pregnant with John, making the two pretty close in age, less than a year apart.
Didn't I just say that but only using one line? laugh
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Didn't I just say that but only using one line? laugh
Sorry, I didn't even see your post before... laugh
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I was just hyper. Ahmad knows...
And LOL when I read the quote that had Joseph in it I thought it said at first "does Joseph know" and I'm Joseph.
Haha! LOL! hello joseph pr
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Peace
Interesting Tlep. From those passages I did believe Jesus did have a human father, but I never considered what you proposed. I can't comment much more on it since I'm not sure.
Joe
Peace,
Prophet Yahya was given Al-Kitab and ?Hukm? with confidence when he was young (sabiy). He became a messenger of Allah when he was a young man.
God sent to Mary (his ruh = wahiy) by a messenger who was present at that time. This messenger married Mary. There were two messenger at that time Zakariya and Yahya. Zakariya was old and already married.
When Mary pointed to her husband to speak for her, her people said ?How can we talk to someone who is a child in a cradle?? They were to swollen with pride to discus the matter with such a young man.
So the only messenger came to Mary to marry her should be YAHYA.
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Peace,
Prophet Yahya was given Al-Kitab and ?Hukm? with confidence when he was young (sabiy). He became a messenger of Allah when he was a young man.
God sent to Mary (his ruh = wahiy) by a messenger who was present at that time. This messenger married Mary. There were two messenger at that time Zakariya and Yahya. Zakariya was old and already married.
When Mary pointed to her husband to speak for her, her people said ?How can we talk to someone who is a child in a cradle?? They were to swollen with pride to discus the matter with such a young man.
So the only messenger came to Mary to marry her should be YAHYA.
Peace,
Interesting view 'm considering this.
I am having issues with a couple of things, however.
Your rendition of 1929 doesn't make sense (john is not the child), could you further clarify
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So she pointed to John. They said ?How can we talk to someone who is a child in a cradle??
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John said ?I am God?s servant, He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet.?
I do think child is a mistranslation. Sabiyyan = young man; same word from 1912.
How do you understand the accusation in 1927-28?
Thanks.
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Peace,
Interesting view 'm considering this.
I am having issues with a couple of things, however.
Your rendition of 1929 doesn't make sense (john is not the child), could you further clarify
I do think child is a mistranslation. Sabiyyan = young man; same word from 1912.
How do you understand the accusation in 1927-28?
Thanks.
Peace Jack,
Yes you are right ?child? is a mistranslation ?Sabiyyan? means ?young man?
343-45 ?O Mary, be devoted to your Lord and obey him and be humble with those who are humble.?
This is from the news of the unseen that We inspire to you. You were not with them when they drew straws as to which one of them will be charged with Mary; you were not with them when they disputed and the Angels said ?O Mary, God gives good news of a word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary. Honourable in this world and in the Hereafter, and from among those who are made close.?Mary learned that the people of the temple drew straws as to which one of them will be charged with her. And she knew that they disputed. In my opinion that is why Mary She took to a barrier which separated her from them. And in my opinion that is the main reason of their accusation. They accused her because she did not listen to them and she run away.
On the other hand,
Verses 2189 to 91 are one sentence.2189-91 And Zachariah when he called out to his Lord ?My Lord, do not leave me without an heir, and You are the best inheritor.? So We responded to him, and We cured his wife and We granted him Yahya, and they used to hasten to do good, and they(Zakariya-his wife-his son) would call to Us in joy and in fear and to Us they were reverent, and the one who ?ahsanat? her ?farj?, so We blew into her from Our ?ruh?, and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds.
We granted him Yahya and the one who ?ahsanat? her ?farj?. Yahya as a son (and as a prophet) and Mary as her son?s wife to bring a grand son (another prophet) to Zakariya. In my oppinion, Yahya and his son Isa are Zakariya's offspring. That ?s how God responded to him.
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Peace, the contradictions with thread topic are obvious...
The Qur'an (Chapter 3, Verses 33-54) Sura Ali 'Imran
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMjdmD761KA
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Peace Tlepsh, all,
I agree with this understanding.
Also see http//www.jesussonofjohn.com/