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"A special msg from Dr. Zakir Naik"

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    afridi220
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    I don't drink fruit juice. I eat it. >

    So you admit that you are a >

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      arnoldyasin
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      "A special msg from Dr. Zakir Naik"

      Don't say 'Mosque' Say always ' Masjid'
      Because Islamic organization has found that
      mosque = mosquitoes

      Don't write ' Mecca ' Write always correctly ' Makkah'
      Because Mecca = house of wines

      Don't write ' Moh'd'. Write always completely as ' Muhammad'
      Because Moh'd = the dog with big mouth.

      Forward it to as many Muslims as you can for Sawab.

      Nothing bad will happen if you don't forward this but these points are important and it is our duty to educate / make aware our brothers.

      In the Egyptian dialect, the Jem is pronounced as a 'Kah', thus they say 'Meskit' instead of Masjid, or Kamal instead of Jamal.

      This is probably how it entered the European language, and yes, during the inquisition the Spanish made the mocking link to mosquito, but that is not the origin of the word mosque.

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        unknownuser
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        In the Egyptian dialect, the Jem is pronounced as a 'Kah', thus they say 'Meskit' instead of Masjid, or Kamal instead of Jamal.

        This is probably how it entered the European language, and yes, during the inquisition the Spanish made the mocking link to mosquito, but that is not the origin of the word mosque.

        thanks! your input is always valuable.

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          Layth
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          RasulHamsa,

          Whats the deal with your signature? You remind me of the Faithfreedom crowd (to say to nicely).

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            unknownuser
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            RasulHamsa,

            Whats the deal with your signature? You remind me of the Faithfreedom crowd (to say to nicely).

            salaam bro

            how It reminds you of that website?

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              Samia
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              In the Egyptian dialect, the Jem is pronounced as a 'Kah', thus they say 'Meskit' instead of Masjid, or Kamal instead of Jamal.

              This is probably how it entered the European language, and yes, during the inquisition the Spanish made the mocking link to mosquito, but that is not the origin of the word mosque.

              I do not think muslims in Spain used the word "masjid" for mosque..nor any muslims at that time. The word is "jame3" jame3 qortuba; jame3 alnabi; jame3 demashq; jame3 lazhar...some of the oldest mosques.

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                Layth
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                Salam,

                how It reminds you of that website?

                You are quoting verses which appear to be in contradiction to each other (especially that you are color highlighting the parts in question).

                I say your signature reminds me of the Faithfreedom crown because they similarly like to claim that the Quran is a fallible human book with contradiction and inconsistencies.

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                  unknownuser
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                  Salam,

                  You are quoting verses which appear to be in contradiction to each other (especially that you are color highlighting the parts in question).

                  I say your signature reminds me of the Faithfreedom crown because they similarly like to claim that the Quran is a fallible human book with contradiction and inconsistencies.

                  aaah, ok. btw I like your article which quran. bravo

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                    Edip_Yuksel
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                    "A special msg from Dr. Zakir Naik"

                    Don't say 'Mosque' Say always ' Masjid'
                    Because Islamic organization has found that
                    mosque = mosquitoes

                    Don't write ' Mecca ' Write always correctly ' Makkah'
                    Because Mecca = house of wines

                    Don't write ' Moh'd'. Write always completely as ' Muhammad'
                    Because Moh'd = the dog with big mouth.

                    Forward it to as many Muslims as you can for Sawab.

                    Nothing bad will happen if you don't forward this but these points are important and it is our duty to educate / make aware our brothers.

                    I like all these suggestions, yet I find their reasoning amusing. I always prefer Masjid to its distorted pronunciation by European Christians. However, the cited reason is childish and false. No wonder, none before this very "special message" thought of confusing mosques with mosquitoes, .

                    Etymologically, the word Mosque has nothing to do with mosquito. Its evolution from mosquito is as much as muslims evolved from mussels or Salaam means Hey dude, give me a pound of Salami. I should add that I really doubt that Zaki Naik is as naive as to provide such silly arguments for this semi-reasonable suggestions (semi, since I find no problem with the usage of Mecca). Perhaps this is a fabricated modern hadith intended to take advantage of the popularity of Zaki.

                    I agree with the following information at
                    http//www.answers.com/mosque

                    Etymology
                    The Arabic word (masjid) means a "place of worship" and is a noun of place from the verb (s?jada) ? derived from the triliteral root s-j-d, meaning "to bow" or "to kneel" ? in reference to the prostration performed during Islamic prayers (see sujud). Either the word masjid itself or at least the verb from which it is derived was borrowed from Aramaic. The word m-s-g-d is attested in Aramaic as early as the 5th century BCE, and the same word is later found in Nabataean inscriptions with the meaning "place of worship"; apparently, this Aramaic word originally meant "stele" or "sacred pillar". The same s-j-d root can also be found in Hebrew --, meaning "to worship".

                    The modern-day English word "mosque", like its equivalents in many other European languages, derives from masjid via Spanish mezquita. The pre-cursors of the word "mosque" in English appeared during the 15th, 16th, and 17th centuries. "Moseak", "muskey", "moschy", and "mos'keh" were just some of the variations that came into use until it was decided that "mosquee", imitating Middle French, Italian, and Old Spanish, would become the standard spelling. In the early 18th century, the terminal "e" was dropped in popular usage, making the modern spelling ("mosque&quot the international standard.

                    As for Mecca being "house of wines", it is another silly and juvenile fabrication... I doubt that an educated person like Zaki would base his argument on such a joke. If you search the Internet by entering the following search terms, highlighted in bold here MECCA "HOUSE OF WINES" you will find that the "House of Wines" is only mentioned in pages containing this email or responses to it. But, if this silly message gets more popular, a businessman might open a bar and name it Mecca! Then, a few decades later this silly claim will find support of chronologically challenged researchers with two digit IQs.

                    As for Moh'd, whether it is a "dog with big mouth" or a "camel with huge hump" or "an ugly man with big mouth and tangled beard", it does not matter. It is an unnecessary abbreviation since Muhammad is the most popular and recognized and beautiful name in the world, and it is also ugly, since it contains an apostrophe. Avoid apostrophe as you avoid flue or apostates )

                    Peace,
                    Edip

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                      Rev_John
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                      As a westerner and a Christian (of sorts), I have never heard any of these "confusions", I have only ever heard a Mosque being called a Mosque or Temple and I have never heard a mosquito being called a mosque (I have heard it being called lots of things, some not very polite).

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                        I do not think muslims in Spain used the word "masjid" for mosque..nor any muslims at that time. The word is "jame3" jame3 qortuba; jame3 alnabi; jame3 demashq; jame3 lazhar...some of the oldest mosques.

                        During the Crusades, Egypt was the main country used to enter the Middle East, next to Byzantium/Turkey. It is also the one where the most areas were under Christian control. Salah-alDin kicked them out when he fought for the Egyptian Mamluk ruler, which he deposed later. The Mamluks/Egyptians ruled most of the northern area of the Middle East during the crusades, including Palestine.

                        It could be a plausible source for the pronunciation of meskit/mosque. The leap from masjid to mosque is too big, even as a mocking joke, the leap from meskit to mosque is only dropping the 't/d'.

                        But it just my own theory.

                        Salaam

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